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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10490 Posts
March 25 2026 16:12 GMT
#81
On March 26 2026 00:35 seRapH wrote:
You really don't need the "personally" added on because preferring non-mirrors is almost a universal opinion.

As a caster who wanted to go to bed, I loved ZvZs and hated TvTs with a passion.
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m4ch1n1cd351r3
Profile Joined October 2020
19 Posts
March 27 2026 15:12 GMT
#82
On March 26 2026 01:12 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2026 00:35 seRapH wrote:
You really don't need the "personally" added on because preferring non-mirrors is almost a universal opinion.

As a caster who wanted to go to bed, I loved ZvZs and hated TvTs with a passion.


Complete opposite for me. ZvZ lacks depth whereas TvT is the deepest matchup.

But then again I don't open YouTube videos shorter than 20min.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51623 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-27 23:52:30
March 27 2026 23:52 GMT
#83
anyone else notice that (Z)hero rebranded himself to HERO?
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SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
227 Posts
March 28 2026 11:43 GMT
#84
^ he was herO then he realized O = 0 champion title of ASL. He had to change his nickname to HERO.
starcraft remasteredvn | Other StarCraft Tournaments
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5624 Posts
March 28 2026 21:11 GMT
#85
On March 28 2026 08:52 GTR wrote:
anyone else notice that (Z)hero rebranded himself to HERO?

(T)Mong is also now MONG
don't wall off against random
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
March 29 2026 19:45 GMT
#86
On March 26 2026 00:35 seRapH wrote:
You really don't need the "personally" added on because preferring non-mirrors is almost a universal opinion.


Mirrors to me are great, because when you give both players the exact same tools it can often show who mechanically and strategically is the stronger player in the matchup a lot easier.

See firebathero vs Flash on Neo Moon Glaive which was an hour match and one of the greatest of all time in BW imo and the entire final TvT between FlaSh and FanTaSy in the tving 2012 OSL (omg this was 14 years ago) and tell me the entire set isn't amazing.

I think ZvZ is the most disappointing, but I think it's mostly just down to how zerg is designed. Lings and Mutas are just so good that if you try and go for anything else you're going to be stuck on 2 base forever and die unless you have like a pocket third or something you can spore up on and pray you can get to plague/devourers.
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jaeboss
Profile Blog Joined April 2017
69 Posts
March 30 2026 02:41 GMT
#87
On March 30 2026 04:45 Qikz wrote:
I think ZvZ is the most disappointing, but I think it's mostly just down to how zerg is designed. Lings and Mutas are just so good that if you try and go for anything else you're going to be stuck on 2 base forever and die unless you have like a pocket third or something you can spore up on and pray you can get to plague/devourers.


Other races have splash which shuts down muta/ling, but hydras are the only other early/mid game option and they are bad against them both since they only deal 1/2 damage. Zerg doesn't get air splash until late hive tech so you're forced into also making muta ling. If mutas were medium or large sized units then hydras would be much more viable.
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
April 02 2026 05:54 GMT
#88
No pro matches today, I'm going through withdrawal lol
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines722 Posts
April 02 2026 09:51 GMT
#89
On April 02 2026 14:54 a-game wrote:
No pro matches today, I'm going through withdrawal lol


hit up the proleague thread and enter the endless void of pro matches
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2142 Posts
April 02 2026 10:49 GMT
#90
Can anyone shed some light on the tag line 'The First, The Last'?
I don't get it.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey715 Posts
April 02 2026 11:06 GMT
#91
On April 02 2026 19:49 Simplistik wrote:
Can anyone shed some light on the tag line 'The First, The Last'?
I don't get it.

Someone asked it, too. I thought it was tongue in cheek act stupid moment how I missed it the first time.
It is the first televised esports. It will probably be the last. You can watch group B. Artosis goes on about how smash and counterstrike are the only other games with a following audience.
Turrican
SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
227 Posts
April 02 2026 11:54 GMT
#92
On April 02 2026 19:49 Simplistik wrote:
Can anyone shed some light on the tag line 'The First, The Last'?
I don't get it.

You have to get knowledge about Buddhism to know the great sentence. You can search The Egg - A Short Story, maybe it's helpful a little for you.

In short, when you are happy your win games, it should you are happy your lose games as well. Actually, I can't do it but I can be sad when I lose and I can be sad when I win too.

Regardless of trophy you get, you'll have to let go to keep living - The First, The Last and then The First, The Last.
starcraft remasteredvn | Other StarCraft Tournaments
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1090 Posts
April 02 2026 13:12 GMT
#93
How do they pick the 3rd place and 4th place from the previous season? is Bisu 3rd place and in group C because he lost to Soma who won the tournament? Would he be in group D instead if Snow won ASL20?
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7033 Posts
April 02 2026 14:00 GMT
#94
On April 02 2026 19:49 Simplistik wrote:
Can anyone shed some light on the tag line 'The First, The Last'?
I don't get it.

Let me speculate

The last: ASL 21 will be the last ASL for StarCraft: Remastered (2017)

The first: ASL 22 will be the first ASL for StarCraft: Microsoft Edition (2026)

Would explain why they apparently reserved a larger finals venue for ASL 22.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8884 Posts
April 02 2026 14:48 GMT
#95
what the heck is microsoft edition lol
havent been paying attention to new releases apparently
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7001 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-02 15:19:54
April 02 2026 15:19 GMT
#96
Could it be that FlaSh said is his last ASL ? And since he played the first edition of ASL idk they playing with that.

I doubt ASL is ending with this edition right ? lol
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1266 Posts
April 02 2026 16:10 GMT
#97
On April 02 2026 20:06 mtcn77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2026 19:49 Simplistik wrote:
Can anyone shed some light on the tag line 'The First, The Last'?
I don't get it.

Someone asked it, too. I thought it was tongue in cheek act stupid moment how I missed it the first time.
It is the first televised esports. It will probably be the last. You can watch group B. Artosis goes on about how smash and counterstrike are the only other games with a following audience.



At this point League of Legenda counts too. Its 15 years old and still one of the most popular esports.
JDON MY SOUL!
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1266 Posts
April 02 2026 16:13 GMT
#98
On April 02 2026 23:48 evilfatsh1t wrote:
what the heck is microsoft edition lol
havent been paying attention to new releases apparently

They are working on a mobile phone starcraft version at Microsoft
JDON MY SOUL!
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines722 Posts
April 02 2026 16:41 GMT
#99
On April 03 2026 01:13 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2026 23:48 evilfatsh1t wrote:
what the heck is microsoft edition lol
havent been paying attention to new releases apparently

They are working on a mobile phone starcraft version at Microsoft


oh god no... the last thing i need is 50 apm zoomers lagging up the ladder with their wifi connections
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3229 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-03 00:24:06
April 03 2026 00:22 GMT
#100
On April 02 2026 19:49 Simplistik wrote:
Can anyone shed some light on the tag line 'The First, The Last'?
I don't get it.

Actually it's the first, the final.

I don't think it has any special meaning. Just some rather lame decoration the graphic designer wants to put in to signify the progress of the tournament, like "oh we're going from the first games of the tournament from Ro24 to the final" lol. I could totally be wrong but from my feeling from the time I lived in SK, some Koreans tend have a knack for that (lame, unnecessary taglines which they think sound cool in English)
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