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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51589 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-14 21:36:11
March 14 2026 21:32 GMT
#41
On March 14 2026 23:21 Postalpj wrote:
Can anyone recall a tournament with this lopsided of faction distribution?


(Wiki)2004-2005 IOPS OSL had only 1 Protoss player qualify out of 16 while (Wiki)2006-2007 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 had 2 Protoss players out of 24
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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1258 Posts
March 16 2026 00:14 GMT
#42
Mini not qualifying is really sad. Just a few days ago he had a full clean sweep in a set in online Proleague. It was pure demolition. All of your favorite players involved too.

To be honest, might be the best player in SC right now, if we take into account the fact that zergs get free wins on some of these maps against P. (not particularly new but anyway)

But I'm not surprised to see this. This is what happens when you have multitude of years of Terran-favored/protected mappools. The other races fall behind and everything becomes a conjuncture (like Soma drilling through Protoss for example).

That dude that does the mappools is slowly killing the game. ASL in 2017-2021 was so incredible to watch.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13414 Posts
March 16 2026 02:05 GMT
#43
On March 15 2026 06:32 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2026 23:21 Postalpj wrote:
Can anyone recall a tournament with this lopsided of faction distribution?


(Wiki)2004-2005 IOPS OSL had only 1 Protoss player qualify out of 16 while (Wiki)2006-2007 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 had 2 Protoss players out of 24

My favourite is the rigged map pool for Ever 2004 so they could get their Boxer v Oov final. Mercury and Bifrost in the same map pool
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
haegN
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway546 Posts
March 16 2026 10:42 GMT
#44
Excited to be going to Seoul to very likely be able to catch a quarter finals. I cannot believe that they don’t distribute the races more in the ro24… just insane to me… YSC getting completely shafted. Qualifiers should be replaced by a league format. Going to enjoy Ro16, but Ro24 is going to be mostly boring. TvTs and ZvZs galore.
None can give you skills, ubermicro, wins or anything. If you are man - you take it!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44267 Posts
March 16 2026 14:01 GMT
#45
holy moly that's so many terrans. hopefuly they get reduced significant before ro16 for a more balanced group selection
this is a quote
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
March 16 2026 17:00 GMT
#46
These feel like some strong groups honestly. Disappointed Mini missed out though.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11082 Posts
March 17 2026 03:40 GMT
#47
Sad on mini.

Well maybe a good season of Snow murdering terrans but he’ll probably get stuck with a Zerg.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
March 17 2026 09:48 GMT
#48
On March 16 2026 09:14 oxKnu wrote:
Mini not qualifying is really sad. Just a few days ago he had a full clean sweep in a set in online Proleague. It was pure demolition. All of your favorite players involved too.

To be honest, might be the best player in SC right now, if we take into account the fact that zergs get free wins on some of these maps against P. (not particularly new but anyway)

But I'm not surprised to see this. This is what happens when you have multitude of years of Terran-favored/protected mappools. The other races fall behind and everything becomes a conjuncture (like Soma drilling through Protoss for example).

That dude that does the mappools is slowly killing the game. ASL in 2017-2021 was so incredible to watch.



Couldn't have said it better. 20 points is awarded to Ravenclaw. And on that note 50 points from Hufflepuff, i.e. everyone stroking Flash and Snow's carrot.

Mini is way better than Flash. He's like Rocky Road ice cream. Flash is like a really great vanilla but he's still part of the Neapolitan. And then you have the people that go face first into the strawberry (Snow fans). Like all the strawb is gone and the vanilla and chocolate is still at the top wtf.

Like not everyone loves Rocky Road but it's objectively better than Neopal. People just like consistency I guess, even if it's the quality of watery mayonnaise. W/e.

It's sad indeed but Mini only has himself to blame after going only 4-5 to Light, falling to 2 cheeses as well, then dying to Mong and Saak a week later? I guess it was Friday the 13th or something. Maybe one day Mini will get angry again and make skin suits out of everyone. Until then I guess we have to root for Best's best bellyflop. Pretty sad state of affairs. AND ON THESE MAPS??
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5467 Posts
March 17 2026 10:37 GMT
#49
Liquibets are open, make sure you submit your first votes before the weekend ends.

Thanks BisuDagger!
FBH #1!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8659 Posts
March 17 2026 19:20 GMT
#50
On March 17 2026 18:48 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2026 09:14 oxKnu wrote:
Mini not qualifying is really sad. Just a few days ago he had a full clean sweep in a set in online Proleague. It was pure demolition. All of your favorite players involved too.

To be honest, might be the best player in SC right now, if we take into account the fact that zergs get free wins on some of these maps against P. (not particularly new but anyway)

But I'm not surprised to see this. This is what happens when you have multitude of years of Terran-favored/protected mappools. The other races fall behind and everything becomes a conjuncture (like Soma drilling through Protoss for example).

That dude that does the mappools is slowly killing the game. ASL in 2017-2021 was so incredible to watch.



Couldn't have said it better. 20 points is awarded to Ravenclaw. And on that note 50 points from Hufflepuff, i.e. everyone stroking Flash and Snow's carrot.

Mini is way better than Flash. He's like Rocky Road ice cream. Flash is like a really great vanilla but he's still part of the Neapolitan. And then you have the people that go face first into the strawberry (Snow fans). Like all the strawb is gone and the vanilla and chocolate is still at the top wtf.

Like not everyone loves Rocky Road but it's objectively better than Neopal. People just like consistency I guess, even if it's the quality of watery mayonnaise. W/e.

It's sad indeed but Mini only has himself to blame after going only 4-5 to Light, falling to 2 cheeses as well, then dying to Mong and Saak a week later? I guess it was Friday the 13th or something. Maybe one day Mini will get angry again and make skin suits out of everyone. Until then I guess we have to root for Best's best bellyflop. Pretty sad state of affairs. AND ON THESE MAPS??


That's...an analogy. Also wtf is rocky road?

On March 17 2026 19:37 Peeano wrote:
Liquibets are open, make sure you submit your first votes before the weekend ends.

Thanks BisuDagger!


<3
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
March 17 2026 19:23 GMT
#51
On March 18 2026 04:20 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2026 18:48 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On March 16 2026 09:14 oxKnu wrote:
Mini not qualifying is really sad. Just a few days ago he had a full clean sweep in a set in online Proleague. It was pure demolition. All of your favorite players involved too.

To be honest, might be the best player in SC right now, if we take into account the fact that zergs get free wins on some of these maps against P. (not particularly new but anyway)

But I'm not surprised to see this. This is what happens when you have multitude of years of Terran-favored/protected mappools. The other races fall behind and everything becomes a conjuncture (like Soma drilling through Protoss for example).

That dude that does the mappools is slowly killing the game. ASL in 2017-2021 was so incredible to watch.



Couldn't have said it better. 20 points is awarded to Ravenclaw. And on that note 50 points from Hufflepuff, i.e. everyone stroking Flash and Snow's carrot.

Mini is way better than Flash. He's like Rocky Road ice cream. Flash is like a really great vanilla but he's still part of the Neapolitan. And then you have the people that go face first into the strawberry (Snow fans). Like all the strawb is gone and the vanilla and chocolate is still at the top wtf.

Like not everyone loves Rocky Road but it's objectively better than Neopal. People just like consistency I guess, even if it's the quality of watery mayonnaise. W/e.

It's sad indeed but Mini only has himself to blame after going only 4-5 to Light, falling to 2 cheeses as well, then dying to Mong and Saak a week later? I guess it was Friday the 13th or something. Maybe one day Mini will get angry again and make skin suits out of everyone. Until then I guess we have to root for Best's best bellyflop. Pretty sad state of affairs. AND ON THESE MAPS??


That's...an analogy. Also wtf is rocky road?

Show nested quote +
On March 17 2026 19:37 Peeano wrote:
Liquibets are open, make sure you submit your first votes before the weekend ends.

Thanks BisuDagger!


<3
GOAT ice cream
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-17 20:11:39
March 17 2026 20:08 GMT
#52
Wanted to make a tier-list for this season but I couldn't be bothered to make one on Tier-List Maker dot com.
So here's a low-effort tier list, based on how I judge their current forms going into ASL.


S: FlaSh - Rush - SnOw - SoMa
A: Best - Bisu - Jaedong - Hero - Soulkey - Light - RoyaL - Queen - sSak
B: Larva - Speed - BarrackS - JyJ - Mind
C: Rain - Sharp - Mong - Scan -
D: Shine - Ample - YSC - PianO
E: Calm - Leta

This is based on their all round forms.
But players tend to specialize in a specific MU and have two or one weaker MU's, so don't take this as a prediction of who will win their groups.
JDON MY SOUL!
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
March 18 2026 12:14 GMT
#53
S: Santa Clause, Darth Vader, Mini, Mini's cat, a Japanese strawberry
A: soma, sSaK, Larva, Best
F: Snow, Flash, Artosis, very green bananas
Z-: The Academy Awards, opinions on the internet, people who don't cover their mouth when they cough, leaf blowers
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1219 Posts
March 18 2026 12:55 GMT
#54
On March 18 2026 21:14 RogerChillingworth wrote:
S: Santa Clause, Darth Vader, Mini, Mini's cat, a Japanese strawberry
A: soma, sSaK, Larva, Best
F: Snow, Flash, Artosis, very green bananas
Z-: The Academy Awards, opinions on the internet, people who don't cover their mouth when they cough, leaf blowers


tbh very green bananas should be ranked in at least A tier
JDON MY SOUL!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13414 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-19 00:53:59
March 18 2026 23:48 GMT
#55
S: FlaSh - SoMa
A: Best - Bisu - Jaedong - Soulkey - Light - RoyaL - Queen - SnOw - Rush
B: Speed - BarrackS - JyJ - Hero - Rain - Sharp
C: sSak - Larva - Mind
D: Shine - Ample - Scan - Mong
E: Calm - Leta - PianO - YSC

S tier: Favourites to win ASL
A tier: Ro16 locks. Big chance to win ASL if bracket works their way
B tier: Ro16 ceiling. But some could make bracket phase
C tier: Likely won't make Ro16 but good chance of an upset
D tier: Not entirely ruling them out but would be surprised if they make Ro16
E tier: Fodder.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
March 20 2026 11:01 GMT
#56
Just have to say, to anyone on the fence about coming to Korea to check out ASL or for anything else, 100% recommend. I'm in Seoul now and it's rad. I only hate that I don't know the language, because I feel like an idiot.
Growing up in essentially farm land USA where you drive to a strip mall and that's it, Seoul is basically a series of transit stations with like an epic garden of life in between.
Maybe Koreans who've lived here their whole life are like MAN, THIS PLACE SUCKS, etc. and I get that. But there is a functionality and intentionality that does not exist in many parts of the west. And I just think that's awesome.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4257 Posts
March 20 2026 17:18 GMT
#57
Btw - What's the map order for the ro24, anyone knows?
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
March 20 2026 18:29 GMT
#58
Haven't done a Liquibet in a long time. here we go~
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Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1019 Posts
March 21 2026 04:19 GMT
#59
A: Rain, Scan
B: Soulkey, sSak
C: herO, Larva
D: Light, RoyaL
E: Flash, Rush
F: Best, ZerO

Hoping for Calm and Leta though!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13414 Posts
March 21 2026 05:56 GMT
#60
Have a bad feeling we could have a GomTvT type season this year. Terrans will be hard to beat on these maps if the recent show matches are anything to go by.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
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