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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1219 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
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Destroyer
Czech Republic949 Posts
I am also not surpriced that Organ did it, because he watches / casts soooo many high tier games and himself being reasonably capable of executing, there he is.. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1219 Posts
On March 11 2026 06:45 NovaTheFeared wrote: Based on these results, are the maps terran favored or the most terran favored of all time? Its hard to call tbh. The top ranks on Eloboard are currently almost all zerg. Somewhat implies the map pool is zerg favored. But the map pool could very well be terran favored. edit correction: beforw yesterday it was largely zergs, but at this point in time rush and light climbed a few spots and some zergs dropped a few spots. before yesterday it was jaedong flash soma action queen hero and then terran and a protoss. | ||
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Peeano
Netherlands5467 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands5467 Posts
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1219 Posts
On March 12 2026 00:49 Peeano wrote: I would love for a new Protoss to arise, but the truth is that I miss Jangbi. All top Protoss since have been failing to go on proper winning-when-it-matters streaks. Jangbi was the next big thing. A more consistent Rain would've been great. A SnOw not held back by family commitments would probably be the next ASL champion. But he's cut back on his play time by like 50% so he's not able to grow or maintain peak form. | ||
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Destroyer
Czech Republic949 Posts
On March 12 2026 00:49 Peeano wrote: I would love for a new Protoss to arise, but the truth is that I miss Jangbi. All top Protoss since have been failing to go on proper winning-when-it-matters streaks. I miss him so much. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5119 Posts
On March 12 2026 00:52 Peeano wrote: My dream is Snow vs Flash/JD finals, since Best would choke anyway and Bisu lacks competitive hunger. I want JD/Flash finals with JD overcoming his choking vs Flash and finally winning. But that's way too nostalgic and extremely corny as well. | ||
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Miragee
8659 Posts
Jokes aside, some of these groups are hard to call imho. I think I will go with these predictions: Group A: Sharp, Rain Group B: Soulkey, Ssak (not sure if Jyj is still slumping) Group C: Larva, Shine (literally a toss-up group...) Group D: Light, Mind Group E: Rush, Flash (Speed got a decent shot) Group F: Best, Zero (could as well be JD) | ||
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Lazyer
United States370 Posts
I hope we get crowd shots of group E, i wanna see how many people are gonna stay for a TvT slug fest even with Flash. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1219 Posts
A: Mong Scan B: Soulkey Ample C: HerO Larva D: Light Royal E: FlaSh Speed F: Best Jaedong Who I think: A: Mong Rain B: Soulkey sSak C: HerO Larva D: Light Royal E: FlaSh Rush F: Best Jaedong | ||
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bulbousbrain
13 Posts
On March 09 2026 21:18 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: Also the low numbers of zergs can be attributed to Effort not signing up, and loads of ZvZ eliminations in qualifiers day 2. Although 8 zergs is not that low. But they did elimimate each other a bunch. Also anyone saying Mini is washed up has NOT been following Kcm, spons, or proleagues. He was just behind with Bisu for currently best performing Protoss. Yes. Even better than SnOw(slight slump) and Best. It really is just one of those few times where "lessers players" perform their best and win. TMNT mentioned knockup possibly playing a part in this and I agree slightly. Action also looked good but failed. You keep saying Mini's been so good in KCM, which I watch religiously every week, and I don't agree at all, so I got curious and looked it up. Uh, not really. He's been okay. Nothing special, and zero (unless I missed one) big weeks in a looong time. Don't care about sponmatches or Proleague. I suspect you just be saying random shit. His skill looks topped out to me. Good player, sometimes very good player, but not consistently great, and definitely not a championship-caliber player. More like the Sharp of Protoss at best. Fun player, but you never expect Sharp to reliably compete v the very best in the world. Sharp's good v Protoss, gets washed v top Zergs, is good vT (a MU I couldn't care less about). Sharp puts on a good show but rarely consistently beats the top players. Sounds like Mini to me. Mini's really good at early game micro and timing attacks/turning small early-game advantages into devastating attacks. He's not good at late game army management, mid-late game on decision-making, and doesn't have great Reaver control. Early game micro means he's great v players he's better than and worse vs players he's worse than because early game micro doesn't mean much v the best in the world. It's routinely deflected. So he's resorted to a lot of risky builds to get a mid-game advantage, and if it doesn't work out he loses quite badly. Those are the patterns I see in his play. | ||
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gravity
Australia2116 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands5467 Posts
Edit: Also Boxer Vs Flash on Python | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1219 Posts
On March 13 2026 15:00 bulbousbrain wrote: You keep saying Mini's been so good in KCM, which I watch religiously every week, and I don't agree at all, so I got curious and looked it up. Uh, not really. He's been okay. Nothing special, and zero (unless I missed one) big weeks in a looong time. Don't care about sponmatches or Proleague. I suspect you just be saying random shit. His skill looks topped out to me. Good player, sometimes very good player, but not consistently great, and definitely not a championship-caliber player. More like the Sharp of Protoss at best. Fun player, but you never expect Sharp to reliably compete v the very best in the world. Sharp's good v Protoss, gets washed v top Zergs, is good vT (a MU I couldn't care less about). Sharp puts on a good show but rarely consistently beats the top players. Sounds like Mini to me. Mini's really good at early game micro and timing attacks/turning small early-game advantages into devastating attacks. He's not good at late game army management, mid-late game on decision-making, and doesn't have great Reaver control. Early game micro means he's great v players he's better than and worse vs players he's worse than because early game micro doesn't mean much v the best in the world. It's routinely deflected. So he's resorted to a lot of risky builds to get a mid-game advantage, and if it doesn't work out he loses quite badly. Those are the patterns I see in his play. https://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=rank_list Mini is now rank #2 on eloboard, meaning he is the 2nd best performing player at this exact point in time in online play. Mini went 3-2 in KCM 2026 season 1. not bad, about average I would say but its a very small number of matches played. http://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=bj_list&wr_id=38 If we look at his match history he performs about the EXACT same as the other top protoss players do in terms of win percentage, difference being his opponents are almost exlusively top ranked for their respective races. The Idea that Mini does poorly vs top 4 of each race is not supported by data. Even your KCM data does not support it for the present. | ||
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Postalpj
10 Posts
I won’t rehash the obvious reasons Protoss is playing handicapped, but I will say we need custom maps or something to undo the reaver nerf. Such an amazing unit. powerful, but cannot be massed. Having a built in delay after unloaded isn’t needed in the modern top tier brood war. Reavers and Templars are so cool and impactful with 0 attack move potential. The perfect set up for skill expression. If you watch a pvt and count how much damage is done by reavers and storm combined then compare it spider mines (not even counting vultures), the mines win almost every game. Aiur needs to be unchained or it will fade away. | ||
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rotta
5615 Posts
On March 14 2026 23:21 Postalpj wrote: Can anyone recall a tournament with this lopsided of faction distribution? Blizzcon 2009 ![]() | ||
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Postalpj
10 Posts
lol 😂 it was an invitational so why waste your time inviting people that you know won’t win | ||
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Poegim
Poland278 Posts
On March 15 2026 03:17 Postalpj wrote: lol 😂 it was an invitational so why waste your time inviting people that you know won’t win XDDDDDD!! true | ||
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