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mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey719 Posts
April 13 2026 07:28 GMT
#221
On April 13 2026 15:10 polgas wrote:
Ooh tough choice for JD. Between the 2, Light is arguably tougher than Flash.

I don't understand people calling Light hard. That is like calling best hard. Players who can only macro are the lowest of the low for their races.
Turrican
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8888 Posts
April 13 2026 07:36 GMT
#222
imagine calling light the lowest of the low of all terrans. your starcraft knowledge never ceases to amaze me
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5631 Posts
April 13 2026 08:17 GMT
#223
Light is slightly better at TvZ than Flash in like forever. What makes Flash scarier is only his status. JD should be happy with Flash instead of Light for his chances to advance. Also: Flash is more scared of a confident JD than Light is.
FBH #1!
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey719 Posts
April 13 2026 13:05 GMT
#224
On April 13 2026 16:36 evilfatsh1t wrote:
imagine calling light the lowest of the low of all terrans. your starcraft knowledge never ceases to amaze me

Tell me, what has Light achieved lately, apart from eliminating Jaedong in ASL19 quarterfinals? This is really the way I see it, it could go either way this time...
Turrican
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-14 05:29:18
April 14 2026 05:28 GMT
#225
Flash and Jaedong wanting to play each other is so peak ngl. They actually giving what the audience wants since they may not meet in the finals but at least they have a chance to play each other once

Flash is likely pulling up but i hope Jaedong carries his form this r16
this is a quote
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey719 Posts
April 14 2026 06:47 GMT
#226
On April 14 2026 14:28 goody153 wrote:
Flash and Jaedong wanting to play each other is so peak ngl. They actually giving what the audience wants since they may not meet in the finals but at least they have a chance to play each other once

Flash is likely pulling up but i hope Jaedong carries his form this r16

Old timers really carry the scene forward. No cowardly nonsense, I'm talking about you Soulkey & Soma. I get teary when I'm thinking of Leta and Piano and how lucky we have been to experience all Starcraft can be. You guys are the best.
PS: I hope for the day someone will reinvent protoss with your no reverse gear play.
Turrican
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-15 01:48:50
April 14 2026 23:18 GMT
#227
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
April 14 2026 23:48 GMT
#228
On April 15 2026 08:18 a-game wrote:
Group of death tonight, hypuuuu


Next week . Round of 16 is only 2 groups per week.
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-15 01:49:31
April 15 2026 01:42 GMT
#229
Oh damn! Thank you for telling me! Can't wait!
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1319 Posts
April 15 2026 07:16 GMT
#230
On April 14 2026 15:47 mtcn77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2026 14:28 goody153 wrote:
Flash and Jaedong wanting to play each other is so peak ngl. They actually giving what the audience wants since they may not meet in the finals but at least they have a chance to play each other once

Flash is likely pulling up but i hope Jaedong carries his form this r16

Old timers really carry the scene forward. No cowardly nonsense, I'm talking about you Soulkey & Soma. I get teary when I'm thinking of Leta and Piano and how lucky we have been to experience all Starcraft can be. You guys are the best.
PS: I hope for the day someone will reinvent protoss with your no reverse gear play.


Wait, isn't soulkey also an old timer? Is this a different soulkey from Neo.G_Soulkey?
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey719 Posts
April 15 2026 07:52 GMT
#231
On April 15 2026 16:16 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2026 15:47 mtcn77 wrote:
On April 14 2026 14:28 goody153 wrote:
Flash and Jaedong wanting to play each other is so peak ngl. They actually giving what the audience wants since they may not meet in the finals but at least they have a chance to play each other once

Flash is likely pulling up but i hope Jaedong carries his form this r16

Old timers really carry the scene forward. No cowardly nonsense, I'm talking about you Soulkey & Soma. I get teary when I'm thinking of Leta and Piano and how lucky we have been to experience all Starcraft can be. You guys are the best.
PS: I hope for the day someone will reinvent protoss with your no reverse gear play.


Wait, isn't soulkey also an old timer? Is this a different soulkey from Neo.G_Soulkey?

I call them out on their groupstage shenanigans. Look at flash bisu jaedong in a single group and ample making it all happen.
TL;DR: there is a funny moment that is repeatedly played out one after another in humourous fashion throughout the groupstage selection ceremony.
Ample knocked out soulkey and therefore he said why stop at one, I'll knock out 2 ASL champions and selected jaedong out of the blue. Bisu was in shatters, "I should have picked Leta". It was really funny how every tier 4 did the same thing. It is like they bring ladder mentality or something. Soma could only stop tulbo and hero's group of death pick by calling them out on their bluff, "Look if you pick flash, you aren't getting out of this group".
Turrican
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1266 Posts
April 15 2026 11:46 GMT
#232
On April 15 2026 16:52 mtcn77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2026 16:16 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
On April 14 2026 15:47 mtcn77 wrote:
On April 14 2026 14:28 goody153 wrote:
Flash and Jaedong wanting to play each other is so peak ngl. They actually giving what the audience wants since they may not meet in the finals but at least they have a chance to play each other once

Flash is likely pulling up but i hope Jaedong carries his form this r16

Old timers really carry the scene forward. No cowardly nonsense, I'm talking about you Soulkey & Soma. I get teary when I'm thinking of Leta and Piano and how lucky we have been to experience all Starcraft can be. You guys are the best.
PS: I hope for the day someone will reinvent protoss with your no reverse gear play.


Wait, isn't soulkey also an old timer? Is this a different soulkey from Neo.G_Soulkey?

I call them out on their groupstage shenanigans. Look at flash bisu jaedong in a single group and ample making it all happen.
TL;DR: there is a funny moment that is repeatedly played out one after another in humourous fashion throughout the groupstage selection ceremony.
Ample knocked out soulkey and therefore he said why stop at one, I'll knock out 2 ASL champions and selected jaedong out of the blue. Bisu was in shatters, "I should have picked Leta". It was really funny how every tier 4 did the same thing. It is like they bring ladder mentality or something. Soma could only stop tulbo and hero's group of death pick by calling them out on their bluff, "Look if you pick flash, you aren't getting out of this group".


Note that last time Ample was in ASL, he knocked Bisu out in the Round of 16. Ample is known for knocking favorites out of the ASL, against all odds and expectations.
JDON MY SOUL!
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey719 Posts
April 15 2026 13:38 GMT
#233
On April 15 2026 20:46 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2026 16:52 mtcn77 wrote:
On April 15 2026 16:16 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
On April 14 2026 15:47 mtcn77 wrote:
On April 14 2026 14:28 goody153 wrote:
Flash and Jaedong wanting to play each other is so peak ngl. They actually giving what the audience wants since they may not meet in the finals but at least they have a chance to play each other once

Flash is likely pulling up but i hope Jaedong carries his form this r16

Old timers really carry the scene forward. No cowardly nonsense, I'm talking about you Soulkey & Soma. I get teary when I'm thinking of Leta and Piano and how lucky we have been to experience all Starcraft can be. You guys are the best.
PS: I hope for the day someone will reinvent protoss with your no reverse gear play.


Wait, isn't soulkey also an old timer? Is this a different soulkey from Neo.G_Soulkey?

I call them out on their groupstage shenanigans. Look at flash bisu jaedong in a single group and ample making it all happen.
TL;DR: there is a funny moment that is repeatedly played out one after another in humourous fashion throughout the groupstage selection ceremony.
Ample knocked out soulkey and therefore he said why stop at one, I'll knock out 2 ASL champions and selected jaedong out of the blue. Bisu was in shatters, "I should have picked Leta". It was really funny how every tier 4 did the same thing. It is like they bring ladder mentality or something. Soma could only stop tulbo and hero's group of death pick by calling them out on their bluff, "Look if you pick flash, you aren't getting out of this group".


Note that last time Ample was in ASL, he knocked Bisu out in the Round of 16. Ample is known for knocking favorites out of the ASL, against all odds and expectations.

Oh yeah, it all began with ample teasing bisu, "Didn't I beat you once before?" and bisu tried to call his bluff. Ample did what he does best.
Turrican
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4105 Posts
April 15 2026 14:19 GMT
#234
haha with all the Tesagi maps we might end up with only 3 terrans in the Ro8 (i don't see a world where Flash doesn't go out of Group C).
Going to be the perfectly balanced Ro8 - 3-3-2 race distribution
Drone is a way of living
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7001 Posts
April 16 2026 18:16 GMT
#235
I already placed my liquibets on Jaedong but i think he looking really bad for Monday. I think the FlaSh /Bisu is the most likely outcome.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
April 16 2026 23:17 GMT
#236
ssak vs soma g3 for goty?
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10495 Posts
April 17 2026 16:24 GMT
#237
Jaedong's ZvP style seems too honorable. Needs to do more random hydra busts and tricky shit like Soma. Watching Protoss not have to make adjustments to Zerg trickiness allows them too much mid-game macro and their army control is so good these days that storm/goons are so efficient against Zerg.
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Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
291 Posts
April 17 2026 17:46 GMT
#238
On April 17 2026 03:16 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
I already placed my liquibets on Jaedong but i think he looking really bad for Monday. I think the FlaSh /Bisu is the most likely outcome.

+1 watched his recent PL and Escore tournaments - his form is really bad, lets hope is just some shanageans before the big week but i doubt it...
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2941 Posts
April 17 2026 20:26 GMT
#239
3-4 weeks ago his form was referred 'unstoppable'.. 2 weeks ago 'JvZ' was the flavor of the week. Now his form is bad again because he's been dropping some games. You're as good as your last performance I guess.

I'd say he's in pretty solid form right now, just not as dominant. His baseline isn't perfect and he still drops games but his ability to peak is clearly present in his current form. His mindset seems in a good place as well, he just has to peak at the right moment. Taking all of that into consideration I'd say he won't make it into the Ro8 as per usual.
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
291 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-18 09:54:00
April 18 2026 09:53 GMT
#240
On April 18 2026 05:26 Smorrie wrote:
3-4 weeks ago his form was referred 'unstoppable'.. 2 weeks ago 'JvZ' was the flavor of the week. Now his form is bad again because he's been dropping some games. You're as good as your last performance I guess.

I'd say he's in pretty solid form right now, just not as dominant. His baseline isn't perfect and he still drops games but his ability to peak is clearly present in his current form. His mindset seems in a good place as well, he just has to peak at the right moment. Taking all of that into consideration I'd say he won't make it into the Ro8 as per usual.

3-4 weeks ago, he literally went like 1 month with 75% winrate(beating light in bo7 etc), now he is like 50% tops, losing games(yes games, more than 1) to players that never played proleague etc

feels really different
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