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cheesehuehue
Vatican City State90 Posts
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TMNT
2743 Posts
On August 17 2024 05:51 ThunderJunk wrote: Soulkey 71% against Mini. Mini does the worst against him out of all the top 4 Protoss. That would mean he has the worst approach to beating Soulkey out of those top Protoss. And who has the best? Oh look, it's Bisu. I'll just smugly stop here. I mean, it means Mini is a worse PvZ player than Bisu (always has been). In fact, in the past 1-2 years at least, he's been worse at PvZ than Bisu and Snow and probably just on par with Best. His PvZ series in ASLs is another story though. On the other hand, Bisu, the best PvZ player of all time, and still top 3 PvZ in modern time, maintaining his form should come as no surprise. Can't base on win rate to say anything about their approach. Take Best for example. He's probably a macro player. Doesn't get better than Bisu? | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
- last day of groups Oct 1 - quarter 1 October 7 - quater 2 October 8 - quarter 3 October 14 - quarter 4 October 15 - semi 1 October 21 - semi 2 October 22 - finals November 2 ? | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4197 Posts
On August 17 2024 11:31 Alzadar wrote: Trying to understand the schedule here (Liquipedia not updated yet), is it: - last day of groups Oct 1 - quarter 1 October 7 - quater 2 October 8 - quarter 3 October 14 - quarter 4 October 15 - semi 1 October 21 - semi 2 October 22 - finals November 2 ? I don't think we are sure about that yet --> https://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar1/post/133445065?page=1 https://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar1 --> ASL/SSL blog | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands899 Posts
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands899 Posts
The chinese community has been organizing their own version of ultimate battle plus sponsor matches with exclusively korean top players. These matches only get added/recorded on ELOBOARD about half the time. Soulkey's record is way better than what ELOBOARD shows. When he plays in the chinese ultimate battle he absolutely destroys everyone. He has lost like 3 out of 20(idk the exact number but he's been on quite often) chinese ultimate battles he's played. Light and snow have also been dominating, but not quite as dominant. Now I don't know why these chinese sponsored events don't get added half the time, because the rankings and the elos would be different. They organize these daily, sometimes twice or three times on a single day. | ||
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TMNT
2743 Posts
On August 17 2024 20:35 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: Also important to note for the online scores from ELOBOARD. The chinese community has been organizing their own version of ultimate battle plus sponsor matches with exclusively korean top players. These matches only get added/recorded on ELOBOARD about half the time. Soulkey's record is way better than what ELOBOARD shows. When he plays in the chinese ultimate battle he absolutely destroys everyone. He has lost like 3 out of 20 chinese ultimate battles he's played. Light and snow have also been dominating, but not quite as dominant. Now I don't know why these chinese sponsored events don't get added half the time, because the rankings and the elos would be different. They organize these daily, sometimes twice or three times on a single day. Yeah that's what I've noticed recently. Maybe not half the time but definitely some games are missing. Weird that sometimes you even have 7 games of the 9 recorded but the remaining 2 nowhere to be seen (maybe the person who recorded it went to bed early lol). I know this has been always the case for eloboard, as each game has to be manually recorded by users like us so there were missing games before. Maybe now the number of games has become too big due to the Chinese UB, so it's even more difficult for them to keep track of. In addition there were some UBs where one of the two players didn't even stream lol. At least the record for proleagues remains good though. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands899 Posts
On August 17 2024 21:27 TMNT wrote: Yeah that's what I've noticed recently. Maybe not half the time but definitely some games are missing. Weird that sometimes you even have 7 games of the 9 recorded but the remaining 2 nowhere to be seen (maybe the person who recorded it went to bed early lol). I know this has been always the case for eloboard, as each game has to be manually recorded by users like us so there were missing games before. Maybe now the number of games has become too big due to the Chinese UB, so it's even more difficult for them to keep track of. In addition there were some UBs where one of the two players didn't even stream lol. At least the record for proleagues remains good though. They switched some of the ultimimate battles to best of 7s, hence why sometimes its less games. they also do bo5s now. for the first few months it was exclusively 9 games. These chinese sponsored matches have convinced me Soulkey is in maybe an unbeatable final form. It will take Snow or Light at their utmost best to take him down. I give everyone else low odds.... except maybe JyJ cuz he a stone cold killer on stage. | ||
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TMNT
2743 Posts
Btw, if any mod reads this, can we have StarCastTV stream in the side bar as well. They are hosting so many events these days including the Chinese spons and SCSL: https://bj.afreecatv.com/cruiser0929 | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On August 17 2024 16:31 M3t4PhYzX wrote: I don't think we are sure about that yet --> https://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar1/post/133445065?page=1 https://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar1 --> ASL/SSL blog I'm looking here: https://esports.afreecatv.com/schedule/STARLEAGUE/2024-11-01/list https://esports.afreecatv.com/schedule/STARLEAGUE/2024-12-01/list The site is kinda buggy and you have to click the month ahead to get the one you want, for November need to modify URL to pick December. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4197 Posts
On August 18 2024 00:23 Alzadar wrote: I'm looking here: https://esports.afreecatv.com/schedule/STARLEAGUE/2024-11-01/list https://esports.afreecatv.com/schedule/STARLEAGUE/2024-12-01/list The site is kinda buggy and you have to click the month ahead to get the one you want, for November need to modify URL to pick December. Now that's a great resource. I'm learning a lot from this thread, thanks guys  Seems to me, like You were correct about the dates in your previous post then, yes. | ||
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Lazyer
United States344 Posts
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ThunderJunk
United States677 Posts
On August 21 2024 07:29 Lazyer wrote: Are we getting a liquibet for SSL? Is there a thread or resource that explains how to do liquibetting? | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11580 Posts
Choose the player you think will win. If you are right, you get a point.Finals, Semi Finals, Quarter Finals usually are worth more points. Then the TL member with the most points in the end of the season wins. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
2887 Posts
On August 22 2024 07:14 ThunderJunk wrote: Is there a thread or resource that explains how to do liquibetting? WHAT | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
On August 17 2024 02:38 FlaShFTW wrote: I understand the mentality behind this, but then the argument would be that every serious should just be like a bo5 then to make sure only the best players advance. Cheese is still part of the game and while it is higher variance with Bo1, better players should be prepping for cheeses too. I’d go the other way and argue the ro24 should mirror the ro16 format with bo3 added after the first two games. Bo1 format encourages a lot of all ins which (generally, there are exceptions) are pretty crappy quality games. Series should be geared to rewarding skills rather than luck. | ||
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prion_
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nyoken
United States100 Posts
https://www.sooplive.com/sctvenglish | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
On August 26 2024 10:15 nyoken wrote: This will be the new StarcastTV stream link https://www.sooplive.com/sctvenglish Ah thanks will link it when the live thread goes up | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4197 Posts
On August 22 2024 21:42 prion_ wrote: I understand why people want Ro24 with Bo3 in the decider matches, but it would add a ton of games. Changing Ro8 from Bo5 to Bo7 adds 4-8 games to the season, whereas changing to Ro24 to the Ro16 format adds 18-36 games. In addition to having upsets in the Ro24, SOOP probably just doesn't want to stretch out the season that much. It wouldn't stretch the lenght of the tournament for even one day though. Upsets also lower the viewer base, since less popular players advance instead of the more popular ones. It just doesn't make any sense, is just used for arbitrary "tradition" reasons and majorly detracts from the overall quality and enjoyment of the tournament. imo | ||
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