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namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
542 Posts
August 12 2024 02:58 GMT
#121
I think Stork should be tier 1-2 given his current performances.
Btw Noel is 1127, yes?
Maybe some mods can update the SOSPA page and/or the Liquipedia page so that they refer to the same person.
(Wiki)1127
Broodwar Forever
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria381 Posts
August 12 2024 08:44 GMT
#122
It's based on ASL points, not on current performance.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
August 12 2024 12:36 GMT
#123
official asl points/tier list for this season for reference

Tier 1: Mini (10186 pts) / Rush (8583 pts) / Light (7475 pts) / Queen (7426 pts) / JyJ (6928 pts) / Best (6126 pts)
Tier 2: Bisu (5751 pts) / Royal (5726 pts) / Acton (5374 pts) / Rain (5180 pts) / Mind (4504 pts) / Shine (2908 pts)
Tier 3: Jaedong (2888 pts) / Stork (2509 pts) / sSak (2367 pts) / Barracks (2277 pts) / Sea (1798 pts) / Sacsri (1454 pts)
Tier 4: Free (1401 pts) / Speed (459 pts) / YSC (288 pts) / Scan (159 pts) / Motive (0 pts) / 1127 (0 pts)
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HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey770 Posts
August 12 2024 12:40 GMT
#124
Current Tiers


https://namu.wiki/w/SSL 2024 AUTUMN#s-4.1
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-12 13:30:19
August 12 2024 13:27 GMT
#125
namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
542 Posts
August 12 2024 15:22 GMT
#126
On August 12 2024 21:36 GTR wrote:
official asl points/tier list for this season for reference

Tier 1: Mini (10186 pts) / Rush (8583 pts) / Light (7475 pts) / Queen (7426 pts) / JyJ (6928 pts) / Best (6126 pts)
Tier 2: Bisu (5751 pts) / Royal (5726 pts) / Acton (5374 pts) / Rain (5180 pts) / Mind (4504 pts) / Shine (2908 pts)
Tier 3: Jaedong (2888 pts) / Stork (2509 pts) / sSak (2367 pts) / Barracks (2277 pts) / Sea (1798 pts) / Sacsri (1454 pts)
Tier 4: Free (1401 pts) / Speed (459 pts) / YSC (288 pts) / Scan (159 pts) / Motive (0 pts) / 1127 (0 pts)


That's really cool to see. Thanks a lot.
What about Soulkey, Hero, Snow and Sharp? Do they also have ASL points?
Broodwar Forever
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
August 12 2024 17:15 GMT
#127
Of course, any players who played in ASL in the past have automatically ASL points. In fact, thats how they create the RO28 in every season. Since they finished top4 last season, as you probably know, they are seeded onto the RO16 for this season.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8604 Posts
August 12 2024 17:34 GMT
#128
It seems i am missing something.... where the hell is hero ?!?!??!!?
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8604 Posts
August 12 2024 17:36 GMT
#129
aaaa.. sorry for being an idiot.. he is seeded ...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States728 Posts
August 12 2024 17:39 GMT
#130
On August 13 2024 02:34 prosatan wrote:
It seems i am missing something.... where the hell is hero ?!?!??!!?


He's not listed because he's one of the 4 seeded players.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10358 Posts
August 12 2024 18:05 GMT
#131
I fully expect one of Mini or Queen to be eliminated in the Ro24.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
August 12 2024 18:09 GMT
#132
ZerO is likely to be in a goup with YSC, sOrry and barracks. I think he'll make it with sOrry. But i hope he won't, and we get to see barracks in the RO16
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States369 Posts
August 12 2024 18:34 GMT
#133
Happy that my boy Barracks made it in on Day 1.
Wonder if Rain will actually practice his non-PvP matchups this time.
Nice to hear Scan made it in!

Excited for it to start in two weeks!!! Cant wait!
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States728 Posts
August 12 2024 18:47 GMT
#134
It's kind of wild to me that Mini has almost 2x the points that Bisu has. Here's a Protoss that totally leans into the early game because his probe micro is actually even better than Bisu. I'm just waiting for the day that Mini can actually make more than 40 probes in PvT in a game he isn't going carriers off a lucky early game lead... and I admit wholeheartedly - he gets lucky a lot because a lot of it isn't luck... I just don't ever see him going big macro.

He'll need to be able to go big macro if he wants to take down Soulkey. Sharp has what he needs to hard stop Mini just like Soulkey does, but where Soulkey is reliably indomitable in the early game, Sharp is just extremely good at the early game.

Just my 2 cts.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States728 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-12 18:51:56
August 12 2024 18:50 GMT
#135
Also, Motive beat Leta in a somewhat close series. He might make it to the ro16 if he draws lucky groups.

I'm stoked to see Motive finally in an ASL. With all the practice he's been getting with Flash, his game sense and fundamentals are doubtless boosted pretty well.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
August 12 2024 19:20 GMT
#136
On August 13 2024 03:47 ThunderJunk wrote:
It's kind of wild to me that Mini has almost 2x the points that Bisu has. Here's a Protoss that totally leans into the early game because his probe micro is actually even better than Bisu. I'm just waiting for the day that Mini can actually make more than 40 probes in PvT in a game he isn't going carriers off a lucky early game lead... and I admit wholeheartedly - he gets lucky a lot because a lot of it isn't luck... I just don't ever see him going big macro.

He'll need to be able to go big macro if he wants to take down Soulkey. Sharp has what he needs to hard stop Mini just like Soulkey does, but where Soulkey is reliably indomitable in the early game, Sharp is just extremely good at the early game.

Just my 2 cts.


First of all, Mini has an ASL win, and 3 ASL finals if im not mistaken. While Bisu has never reached an ASL finals. Also, saying that Mini can't macro is completely ridiculous. I do like Bisu, but Mini is the better player of the 2 nowadays and has been for quite some time now.
Yeiem13
Profile Joined August 2024
1 Post
August 12 2024 19:49 GMT
#137
He guys, will be in Korea last week of September. First time attending and want to be sure I make it.

I see some comments that say the games take place on Monday and Tuesday, and that the venue is the jamsil coliseum venue, is this correct? Also, how complicated is it to get tickets? Want to get them with as much anticipation as possible.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States369 Posts
August 12 2024 19:54 GMT
#138
On August 13 2024 04:49 Yeiem13 wrote:
He guys, will be in Korea last week of September. First time attending and want to be sure I make it.

I see some comments that say the games take place on Monday and Tuesday, and that the venue is the jamsil coliseum venue, is this correct? Also, how complicated is it to get tickets? Want to get them with as much anticipation as possible.


I followed this guide on reddit and it was pretty simple! Just make sure you keep track of the schedule.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3132 Posts
August 12 2024 20:00 GMT
#139
On August 13 2024 03:47 ThunderJunk wrote:

He'll need to be able to go big macro if he wants to take down Soulkey.

Don't think going big macro is the way to solve Soulkey, especially for the Protosses as late game PvZ is not in their favor.

Mini actually has the right approach: get an advantage in the early game and kill Zerg in the mid game. And to get an advantage in the early game, you need to be good at it and have a well executed plan.

Snow goes late game vs Soulkey a lot and gets destroyed regularly. And here's Bisu going super late vs Soulkey recently, on equal bases as well, but still couldn't take him down.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
August 12 2024 21:29 GMT
#140
Its a sad discussion to have about BW, especially in 2024.
At equal level, trying to kill a zerg late game with protoss is like trying to kill a protoss with terran early game. Extremely unlikely.
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