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SOOP Starleague Autumn (ASL18) announced - Page 12

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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4274 Posts
August 17 2024 18:49 GMT
#221
On August 18 2024 00:23 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2024 16:31 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On August 17 2024 11:31 Alzadar wrote:
Trying to understand the schedule here (Liquipedia not updated yet), is it:
- last day of groups Oct 1
- quarter 1 October 7
- quater 2 October 8
- quarter 3 October 14
- quarter 4 October 15
- semi 1 October 21
- semi 2 October 22
- finals November 2

?

I don't think we are sure about that yet --> https://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar1/post/133445065?page=1

https://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar1 --> ASL/SSL blog


I'm looking here: https://esports.afreecatv.com/schedule/STARLEAGUE/2024-11-01/list

https://esports.afreecatv.com/schedule/STARLEAGUE/2024-12-01/list

The site is kinda buggy and you have to click the month ahead to get the one you want, for November need to modify URL to pick December.

Now that's a great resource. I'm learning a lot from this thread, thanks guys

Seems to me, like You were correct about the dates in your previous post then, yes.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States393 Posts
August 20 2024 22:29 GMT
#222
Are we getting a liquibet for SSL?
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States741 Posts
August 21 2024 22:14 GMT
#223
On August 21 2024 07:29 Lazyer wrote:
Are we getting a liquibet for SSL?


Is there a thread or resource that explains how to do liquibetting?
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11601 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-21 22:52:05
August 21 2024 22:51 GMT
#224
go to https://tl.net/liquibet/

Choose the player you think will win. If you are right, you get a point.Finals, Semi Finals, Quarter Finals usually are worth more points.
Then the TL member with the most points in the end of the season wins.
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
August 22 2024 03:16 GMT
#225
On August 22 2024 07:14 ThunderJunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2024 07:29 Lazyer wrote:
Are we getting a liquibet for SSL?


Is there a thread or resource that explains how to do liquibetting?


WHAT
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13467 Posts
August 22 2024 06:40 GMT
#226
On August 17 2024 02:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 23:38 TMNT wrote:
The idea of giving underdogs a better chance to qualify for Ro16 by having only Bo1 in Ro24 is just stupid. You are only deserving of a place in Ro16 if you can show you're good enough, not by fluking a win or cheesing. It's pointless to have those players in Ro16 just for "diversity", only for them to be picked first in group nomination (hah) and blasted by better players once Bo3 is used.

And from the other side of the argument, where someone would say "if you are the better player you should beat the weaker one in a single game" to justify the use Bo1, well BW doesn't exactly work that way. And if that were the case then we might as well have Bo1 in finals as well.


I understand the mentality behind this, but then the argument would be that every serious should just be like a bo5 then to make sure only the best players advance. Cheese is still part of the game and while it is higher variance with Bo1, better players should be prepping for cheeses too.

I’d go the other way and argue the ro24 should mirror the ro16 format with bo3 added after the first two games.

Bo1 format encourages a lot of all ins which (generally, there are exceptions) are pretty crappy quality games. Series should be geared to rewarding skills rather than luck.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
prion_
Profile Joined September 2022
79 Posts
August 22 2024 12:42 GMT
#227
I understand why people want Ro24 with Bo3 in the decider matches, but it would add a ton of games. Changing Ro8 from Bo5 to Bo7 adds 4-8 games to the season, whereas changing to Ro24 to the Ro16 format adds 18-36 games. In addition to having upsets in the Ro24, SOOP probably just doesn't want to stretch out the season that much.
nyoken
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States102 Posts
August 26 2024 01:15 GMT
#228
This will be the new StarcastTV stream link

https://www.sooplive.com/sctvenglish
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51246 Posts
August 26 2024 02:34 GMT
#229
On August 26 2024 10:15 nyoken wrote:
This will be the new StarcastTV stream link

https://www.sooplive.com/sctvenglish


Ah thanks will link it when the live thread goes up
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4274 Posts
August 26 2024 07:20 GMT
#230
On August 22 2024 21:42 prion_ wrote:
I understand why people want Ro24 with Bo3 in the decider matches, but it would add a ton of games. Changing Ro8 from Bo5 to Bo7 adds 4-8 games to the season, whereas changing to Ro24 to the Ro16 format adds 18-36 games. In addition to having upsets in the Ro24, SOOP probably just doesn't want to stretch out the season that much.

It wouldn't stretch the lenght of the tournament for even one day though. Upsets also lower the viewer base, since less popular players advance instead of the more popular ones. It just doesn't make any sense, is just used for arbitrary "tradition" reasons and majorly detracts from the overall quality and enjoyment of the tournament.

imo
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