FlaSh's Crypto Scandal - Page 8

On July 03 2021 03:10 Immaterial wrote:
It’s obviously sketchy and Flash (et al) should have known better, but I don’t think it’s comparable to match fixing at all. It does not impact the integrity of competition.

On July 03 2021 03:10 Immaterial wrote:
From what I understand, this situation is kind of like the CSGO gambling scandal with Syndicate and Tmartn. Streamers promoting something without adequately disclosing their involvement with the project. It’s obviously sketchy and Flash (et al) should have known better, but I don’t think it’s comparable to match fixing at all. It does not impact the integrity of competition.

It’s a question of intent as well. If he made a naive mistake then that is forgivable. Very poor judgement, but forgivable. If he knowingly schemed with others to participate in a crypto pump and dump at the expense of his fans then (imo) it isn’t forgivable. His early statements really don’t help his case... shifting blame onto your mum? Not a good look. Does he not have a publicist or something?

On July 03 2021 08:24 BigFan wrote:

I believe KCM and whoever else said it was worse did it for several reasons. The biggest reason being that Flash, in a way, has become synonymous with SC and Terran. He is considered GOAT by most people and has been in the scene since his 2007 debut. Basically, he's lived and breathed BW, and most of this after the matchfixing scandal took place which was a big reason for the professional scene's demise among other things. But you may ask, why is this even a comparison? Now, it is true that this isn't affecting the integrity of the competition which would be pretty bad, but this might actually be worse on a different scale, because not only are you undermining the fans' trust, there's also a monetary component at play here.

If this was actually a pump and dump scheme and Flash and co ended up advertising it, even just name dropping the coin during the stream, the consequences would be much worse so it's a good thing that the coin wasn't on the market yet and this whole thing came out when it did. Having said that, personally, I have no clue what Flash was thinking when he was making this investment. Maybe he was lured into it by Suit who is apparently very convincing, or maybe he gave it some thought and decided that it's best to jump in especially with the money guaranteed. We just don't know so we can't really evaluate maliciousness, but is your money being guaranteed common in investments? More so when it comes to crytocurrency? I don't have much knowledge on the subject so maybe someone with more information can share.

All in all, I think the damage is done and his image is tainted in the eyes of some fans. I'm not sure of the scope of this so maybe jinjin or another KR speaker can give us an idea of just how bad the damage is. It was interesting to read some of his previous lies though and yes, people really need to make their own decisions regardless of whether a streamer name drops something during a streaming session.

On July 03 2021 03:10 Immaterial wrote:
It’s a question of intent as well. If he made a naive mistake then that is forgivable.

On July 03 2021 10:51 ggsimida wrote:


savior was NaIvE too, he was young and didn't know what he was doing! forgive him guise...

On July 03 2021 10:27 Shinokuki wrote:


damage is pretty bad that flash/bisu may never be able to stream. Britney actually revealed that flash was the one who persuaded him to invest, causing even more backlash from the fans. This basically confirmed that he was the main player and was acting like a "broker." In the past, we also see a video of flash advertising himself as a "guru" of coin and saying he earned more $ than his entire career as a progamer. So he most likely knew about the structure of how all of this worked and STILL decided to invest and even pursuaded some people like britney to invest. It's pretty set in stone. Flash can't ever return and he's unfortunately on the level worse than savior's. (pretty ridiculous I know but thats what seems to be occurring atm)

On July 03 2021 15:10 Dante08 wrote:


Wow you really are being hyperbolic huh. Isn't Flash a victim in this "scandal" as well? Presumably he didn't know about this scandal, yes he did introduce other people to invest but he would have told them not to invest any big amounts. He has mentioned that a few times and I believe it to be true.

I guess he didn't explain things very clearly at the start which obviously didn't help his cause, but I'm not sure why everybody is damning him to hell based on multiple assumptions? It's such a weird situation really.

On July 03 2021 15:29 nath wrote:
are people bitter at Flash's general success? its pretty obvious that his Mom got swindled by some scumbag, who also happens to appear good to him (generous donator to SC streamers/tournaments in his words), and that he isn't much of an expert, so he got sucked into it. i dont think it makes him a terrible person at all. i do think it makes him more stupid than we think (we think hes smart because hes good at a video game, but i can see his general stupidity in the real world from things like this)

On July 03 2021 18:12 KameZerg wrote:
being a pump and dump scammer and encouraging people (huge audience) to participate (lose all their invested money) is worse than a match fixer which takes some money under the table from a broker to throw a game but what savior did was worse than being a matchfixer because he also acted as the broker between betters and gamers.