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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-29 05:25:30
July 29 2007 05:25 GMT
#101
On July 29 2007 14:20 phr4n7ik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2007 10:27 Carnac wrote:
the fact that a player who wins an OSL almost always gets thrown out of the tournament early in the next season (i.e. in group phase) has been titled OSL curse


thats not like throwing them as in if they are winning all their matches the OSL jsut kicks them out?!?! or is it just a common coincidence that people have named.


OSL is an established, professional competition, they don't arbitrarily decide to remove players from the tournament

but yeah its been a pretty constant thing throughout OSL history
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Koldblooded
Profile Joined July 2006
United States661 Posts
July 29 2007 05:25 GMT
#102
oov is had the best dominance
By.Flash fighting
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
July 29 2007 06:53 GMT
#103
PvZ is becoming more and more accessible.

Zergs, though, are getting more and more gay.
Mango @ U.S.East!
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12807 Posts
July 29 2007 07:13 GMT
#104
Boxer by a long shot.

I walk in the streets, I say starcraft. Many people know boxer. Not so many knows even rA, not to mention bisu or w/e oov...
What boxer did to BW is like Jordan did to Basketball, there really is no comparison.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
vstar
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Korea (South)693 Posts
July 29 2007 07:15 GMT
#105
iloveoov by far
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
July 29 2007 07:27 GMT
#106
On July 29 2007 16:13 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Boxer by a long shot.

I walk in the streets, I say starcraft. Many people know boxer. Not so many knows even rA, not to mention bisu or w/e oov...
What boxer did to BW is like Jordan did to Basketball, there really is no comparison.


If by streets you mean U.S. East, then yes.

But, if you say Bisu, thousands of protoss players will answer back.

;P
Mango @ U.S.East!
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-29 07:35:02
July 29 2007 07:34 GMT
#107
On July 29 2007 15:53 Scorpion wrote:
PvZ is becoming more and more accessible.

Zergs, though, are getting more and more gay.

plz explain how zergs are getting more gay.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 29 2007 07:39 GMT
#108
i like savior.. he didn't give a shit about nobody... he just played like he's never played before.. he was a playmachine!!!
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
July 29 2007 09:00 GMT
#109
On July 29 2007 16:34 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2007 15:53 Scorpion wrote:
PvZ is becoming more and more accessible.

Zergs, though, are getting more and more gay.

plz explain how zergs are getting more gay.


Go on Iccup and find out.

;(
Mango @ U.S.East!
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
July 29 2007 09:09 GMT
#110
[image loading]

COME
ON
GUYS

ITS HIM(stats) OR BOXER(sheer glorious play)
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
July 29 2007 09:16 GMT
#111
On July 29 2007 18:09 Pressure wrote:
[image loading]

COME
ON
GUYS

ITS HIM(stats) OR BOXER(sheer glorious play)


How about both? :D
Mango @ U.S.East!
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 29 2007 10:00 GMT
#112
On July 29 2007 16:13 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Boxer by a long shot.

I walk in the streets, I say starcraft. Many people know boxer. Not so many knows even rA, not to mention bisu or w/e oov...
What boxer did to BW is like Jordan did to Basketball, there really is no comparison.

Too bad that wasn't the freakin question. Just because boxer is the most famous doesn't mean he was the most dominate.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
July 29 2007 10:22 GMT
#113
On July 29 2007 19:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2007 16:13 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Boxer by a long shot.

I walk in the streets, I say starcraft. Many people know boxer. Not so many knows even rA, not to mention bisu or w/e oov...
What boxer did to BW is like Jordan did to Basketball, there really is no comparison.

Too bad that wasn't the freakin question. Just because boxer is the most famous doesn't mean he was the most dominate.


It wasn't the question?
Thread's name is ' who reign was most dominate '
Boxer's reign made starcraft. Nobody else's reign can say ' Hey I molded the future of starcraft not only through my gameplay, but through my actions outside the game '

Nobody.

If we focus on in-game domination it's between Oov and Nada. Nada has just conquered more [3osl] so we can give him the title of ' most dominant ' overall but Oov probably gets the title of ' most dominating ' for his reign.

This is a very simple question I don't know why it has taken so many pages. The only real interesting thing is the old history that oldschool sc watchers have said.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 29 2007 11:08 GMT
#114
On July 29 2007 13:56 JensOfSweden wrote:
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On July 29 2007 10:32 Locked wrote:
On July 29 2007 08:38 JensOfSweden wrote:
True, the dominant races has always been Terran and Zerg. I guess the PvZ matchup is a great struggle for most tosses to be honest and this is a big reason why a toss hasn't been more dominant.

I welcome anyone to prove me wrong.



actually it's really mostly just terran (boxer, nada, oov).... and then savior

although you could count giyom for protoss but that was mostly before the progaming scene developed


zergs have had just as much trouble zvt as tosses have had pvz in championship matches really


Well, actually I count July as a dominant force as well, maybe I'm wrong though. And I think clearly ZvT is "easier" than PvZ, because otherwise there is no reason why a toss wouldn't have been more dominant.
But yea I agree that many zergs struggle in ZvT as well, especially in important games where even a really good zerg user can be demolished by a mediocre terran.

Just look at many of the great tosses; great PvT (this is common), great PvP (often), so-and-so PvZ.
PvZ is definately holding them back.


Statistics say otherwise. People are so used to terrans owning the crap out of zergs that it almost seems unnatural when zergs take the win. I know most people's gut feelings' tell them otherwise, but statistically speaking, zergs have a harder time against terrans than tosses do against zergs. Stats say so for the year 2005, 2006 and whaddya know? 2007.

Why do you think no zerg managed to win a major tournament until 2005? Take a looks at the results of all ZvT, PvZ, TvP BO5 and you will see how horribly lopsided ZvT has been during all these years. Or try looking up the stats of what you thought were a "zerg-friendly map" like Arcadia only to find out that terrans actually are ahead. Protoss killing maps like Mercury are notorious but are actually pretty decent balance-wise when compared to zerg killing maps like Ragnarok.

Then why did no protoss dominated like Boxer, Nada, Oov and Savior did? Don't include July here because Nal_Ra has been just as good. July kept his Kespa number 1 ranking because the nobody dominated the starcraft scene in 2005, Nal_Ra had way stiffer competition. The answer is that Savior is actually the first non-terran to dominate the progaming scene and that's why people were in awe. He is a freak of nature in the terran-dominant starcraft scene. Watch Xellos vs Yellow OSL finals 4 years ago. Terrans haven't changed all the much since then, but zergs have evolved by leaps and bounds. Maybe Bisu will follow his steps, who knows? Wait for the protoss monster that'll kill all competition, but please for god's sake stop crying PvZ imba!!! because it's getting old.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13508 Posts
July 29 2007 11:23 GMT
#115
July is pretty significant to Zerg because he was the one that showed how powerful muta harass/cloning could be.

Savior took it a step further with his late game management and now zergs like Jaedong and GGplay are profiting.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
NHi.GoMDoRi
Profile Joined July 2007
Canada51 Posts
July 29 2007 11:23 GMT
#116
Personal Preference? -_- lol j/k

I'd say Boxer's reign. I can honestly say he isn't my favourite player, but he does have distinct qualities that make him a model candidate. If the word "reign" is defined by: "to be larger in number, quantity, power, status or importance"

Its gotta be Boxer. His winning ratio may not be the highest, the number of OSLs and MSLs won may not be highest either, but his authority and importance to pro-gaming is undeniably remarkable.

You guys already know his accomplishments, how he handpicked oov, .. etc, etc whatever so no need to restate the obvious, but for myself, authority/importance/status matters most, and Boxer is unsurpassed in that area as of yet.
RebelHeart
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
New Zealand722 Posts
July 29 2007 12:29 GMT
#117
what's Grrr up to these days, anyway?
"Love the Lord your God, and love your neighbour as you love yourself. If you do these things you're doing well" - Phil Joel
Sudyn
Profile Joined May 2007
United States744 Posts
July 29 2007 13:02 GMT
#118
Playing poker and making websites.
Gaetele banned?
SpArK
Profile Joined April 2007
Canada33 Posts
July 29 2007 13:12 GMT
#119
bisu for sure
cravy
Profile Joined October 2006
United States525 Posts
July 29 2007 14:48 GMT
#120
Boxer...
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