EPTOn July 29 2007 00:16 Gryffindor_us wrote:
I should stay out of this thread I think =_=.
I should stay out of this thread I think =_=.
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Who's reign was best? - Page 5
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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We Are Here
Australia1810 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
 It was said at the time during his reign(even by the commentators) that if you allowed nada to get any base past his natural then there was no way to win...thats just wtf good It was mainly on LT that they were referring to. | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2936 Posts
Boxer, oov, stork, and bisu have all had their respective reigns (I now am better informed thanks to you guys), bisu's reign is stil continuing. However im going to do my usual radical thought proceses and predict a bisu slump. I guess there have been some periods of domination, but they usually end pretty sadly. | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
However it wasn't until 1999 when I've watched the progamer's open final between Freemura's and [B&G]TheBoy that I became really interested in it. I've witnessed emergence of every top gamers in Starcraft pro-gaming scene, Ssamjang, Freemura, [GG99]slayer, Skelton (although he never dominated), BBoGul (Now a commentator at OSL,[z-zone]Byun, [B_Blade]LeadeR (Commentator at OSL), Grrrr, IntotheRain, Boxer, Garimto, Nada, July, Oov, Savior, Bisu etc... Now going by statistics alone, it's safe to say that Oov's was the most impressive one, but as someone who experienced and seen every every top gamers reign I have to say that Boxer's domination period was the most glorious one. No one had impressed the fans like Boxer did, No other gamer had the popularity he had and no other gamer excited the audiences like he did. Starcraft owes a lot to Boxer as he really contributed to the scene more than anyone else did, as he attracted countless audiences, he has shown that same sort of excitement that can be felt at watching sport can be experienced watching StarCraft match... well the list goes on and on So yeah.. I am going with Boxer. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On July 28 2007 00:07 oshibori_probe wrote: too my knowledge only BIsu, Nada, and Savior have consecutive league wins. Before the OSL curse was broken by nada there was never an OSL reign, the same goes for after too! Only the MSL can be dominated. Only player to ever win two OSLs in a row = BoxeR. All hail. Oh and Oov has consecutive wins. | ||
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JensOfSweden
Cameroon1767 Posts
On July 29 2007 02:27 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Having witnessed all of them, I'd have to say Nada's was the most impressive It was said at the time during his reign(even by the commentators) that if you allowed nada to get any base past his natural then there was no way to win...thats just wtf good It was mainly on LT that they were referring to.Yea, I have watched so many reps of Nadas on LT and when his macro kicks in he was just unbeatable. Against protoss he went tornado terran at their ass, owning everything up in a matter of minutes after moving out. I think NaDa and Oov are close in terms of dominance. Surely Oov has a stellar record (especially TvZ) but NaDa has definately been more consistant in the long run. I would say Nada is the most accomplished and "best" SC player of all times, all in all. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13426 Posts
Suffice to say my vote goes to Boxer. He was so good during his prime, I remember him embarassing zergs with wraiths and medic+optic flare drops. Classic. | ||
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
One comment on Bisu though. While he's certainly on a hot streak I just don't see him in the same light as Savior during his era. I remember comments like "Birds fly, dogs die, people fuck, and Savior wins" and "You can't cheese Savior, Savior will eat your soul." It just didn't seem to occur to people that Savior could lose and he was always the safe bet. Bisu doesn't seem quite as unstoppable and untouchable as Savior or like many of the other greats you guys are mentioning like Oov, Nada, Boxer, etc. | ||
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Gokey
United States2722 Posts
On July 29 2007 08:09 Phyre wrote: Wow, really nice to see the replies to this. It's like a little history lesson on the world of SC that I missed before I started following the pro scene. Almost makes me feel nostalgic for things I didn't witness. One comment on Bisu though. While he's certainly on a hot streak I just don't see him in the same light as Savior during his era. I remember comments like "Birds fly, dogs die, people fuck, and Savior wins" and "You can't cheese Savior, Savior will eat your soul." It just didn't seem to occur to people that Savior could lose and he was always the safe bet. Bisu doesn't seem quite as unstoppable and untouchable as Savior or like many of the other greats you guys are mentioning like Oov, Nada, Boxer, etc. yeah, bisu does not nearly have the "unstoppable" aura that savior and oov had... in fact, no protoss has ever had something like that | ||
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JensOfSweden
Cameroon1767 Posts
I welcome anyone to prove me wrong. | ||
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On July 29 2007 08:14 Gokey wrote: yeah, bisu does not nearly have the "unstoppable" aura that savior and oov had... in fact, no protoss has ever had something like that it might just be a matter of time o_o hmmm | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
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Locked
United States4182 Posts
On July 29 2007 08:38 JensOfSweden wrote: True, the dominant races has always been Terran and Zerg. I guess the PvZ matchup is a great struggle for most tosses to be honest and this is a big reason why a toss hasn't been more dominant. I welcome anyone to prove me wrong. actually it's really mostly just terran (boxer, nada, oov).... and then savior although you could count giyom for protoss but that was mostly before the progaming scene developed zergs have had just as much trouble zvt as tosses have had pvz in championship matches really | ||
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Pressure
7326 Posts
On July 28 2007 01:32 estebannam wrote: | ||
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HypersonicEspo
United States74 Posts
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fig_newbie
749 Posts
On July 29 2007 08:14 Gokey wrote: yeah, bisu does not nearly have the "unstoppable" aura that savior and oov had... in fact, no protoss has ever had something like that I'd say Grrr was as close as an unstoppable protoss as you can get | ||
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TehKris
Norway322 Posts
On July 29 2007 06:10 1tym wrote: I have been a witness to starcraft progaming scene since 1998 when Ssamjang was dominating.. However it wasn't until 1999 when I've watched the progamer's open final between Freemura's and [B&G]TheBoy that I became really interested in it. I've witnessed emergence of every top gamers in Starcraft pro-gaming scene, Ssamjang, Freemura, [GG99]slayer, Skelton (although he never dominated), BBoGul (Now a commentator at OSL,[z-zone]Byun, [B_Blade]LeadeR (Commentator at OSL), Grrrr, IntotheRain, Boxer, Garimto, Nada, July, Oov, Savior, Bisu etc... Now going by statistics alone, it's safe to say that Oov's was the most impressive one, but as someone who experienced and seen every every top gamers reign I have to say that Boxer's domination period was the most glorious one. No one had impressed the fans like Boxer did, No other gamer had the popularity he had and no other gamer excited the audiences like he did. Starcraft owes a lot to Boxer as he really contributed to the scene more than anyone else did, as he attracted countless audiences, he has shown that same sort of excitement that can be felt at watching sport can be experienced watching StarCraft match... well the list goes on and on So yeah.. I am going with Boxer. Then I have a question for you. As we know, the Norwegian player Slayer won 2-1 vs I_Love_Star in 2000 KBK (basicly the biggest Tournament that year), but I have also seen I_Love_star was in the finals in 1999. What happened to this player? | ||
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JensOfSweden
Cameroon1767 Posts
On July 29 2007 10:32 Locked wrote: actually it's really mostly just terran (boxer, nada, oov).... and then savior although you could count giyom for protoss but that was mostly before the progaming scene developed zergs have had just as much trouble zvt as tosses have had pvz in championship matches really Well, actually I count July as a dominant force as well, maybe I'm wrong though. And I think clearly ZvT is "easier" than PvZ, because otherwise there is no reason why a toss wouldn't have been more dominant. But yea I agree that many zergs struggle in ZvT as well, especially in important games where even a really good zerg user can be demolished by a mediocre terran. Just look at many of the great tosses; great PvT (this is common), great PvP (often), so-and-so PvZ. PvZ is definately holding them back. | ||
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phr4n7ik
Canada10 Posts
On July 28 2007 10:27 Carnac wrote: the fact that a player who wins an OSL almost always gets thrown out of the tournament early in the next season (i.e. in group phase) has been titled OSL curse thats not like throwing them as in if they are winning all their matches the OSL jsut kicks them out?!?! or is it just a common coincidence that people have named. | ||
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