On July 28 2007 02:17 GTR-2-Go wrote: OK, to be honest, you can't really say anyone, ANYONE has dominated or "reigned" BW. To "reign" Korean e-Sports, you have to a) Productively do extremely good all the time in both OSL's and MSL's and b) Good in proleagues
I believe no one ever at all has done that before, except maybe NaDa, but that was ages ago, and for an extremely short period.
Unless you count reign as the number one ranked Kespa player.
You might not be on top of both leagues, but if you are the number one ranked player for more than a month you more or less have a reign.
To dominate you don't have to be undefeated, you just have to be the winningest player at the time.
Although I do understand the point you are making.
On July 28 2007 05:32 Musli wrote: I know that some players had awesome stats and were dominating on pro scene, but for me while dominating you have to be spectacular. I've never found oov, sAviOr or Bisu spectacular. Ofc they have awesome skill but it wasnt something that driven audience crazy like July's muta micro and agressiveness, Boxer m&m micro and tactical comebacks or even NaDa tornado style in his prime, complete terran destroyer annihilating everyone on his way, with awesome micro, 350 APM macro and multitasking. It was really like tornado (game starts, NaDa moves, opponent GGs) ;>
You gotta be kidding, what about Savior's watershed defense? OOv's army appearing out of thin air? Bisu's vZ in dominating fashion, a never-before-seen sight?
Kinda surprised nobody has mentioned Boxer really (at least I didnt see it). As a "devil's advocate" I would like to throw that name out. He may not have had consecutive big titles but he certainly held the KESPA #1 rank for nearly a record time I believe? His TvZ was considered fairly dominant and his TvT was near the tops. Is it because his TvP was so weak nobody considers him?
It's because they don't respect his competition as much as they do of say, Savior's or Oov's days in the sun. That's my guess atleast. That, or they don't remember it as clearly. While it's certainly admirable and he's forever remembered as a legend, and is still an amazing player today obviously, if people saw Savior / Nada / Boxer attending WCG, they'd see Boxer as the most likely to lose a game, or games out of those three.
He did / does a lot for the game, and he's certainly an honorable mention.
In my opinion Oov's 1# Kespa Rank time was the best. You watched a VOD of Oov playing and he loses EVERY UNIT and then suddenly the camera goes to the main base of Oov and there was a even bigger army. It was just unbelievable at that time.
Oov still is my favorite Player because he always was kind of sympathic to me. I like his play style and I hope he will be at the Top again soon.
On July 28 2007 19:09 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Kinda surprised nobody has mentioned Boxer really (at least I didnt see it). As a "devil's advocate" I would like to throw that name out. He may not have had consecutive big titles but he certainly held the KESPA #1 rank for nearly a record time I believe? His TvZ was considered fairly dominant and his TvT was near the tops. Is it because his TvP was so weak nobody considers him?
BoxeR held kespa #1 rank for 17 consecutive months, IIRC. Longest reign.
Personally I liked oov's reign best, remember thinking "what the hell" when I saw him steamrolling yellow in an important match some time ago iirc. He was the absolute best for awhile and enjoyed many awesome televised games because of him (reach vs oov match anyone ?).
Anyways I'm pretty biased because I really love terran, after that I'd say savior.
I never really followed progaming in boxer's reign, my interest started around the time his reign ended sadly, so I can't really have an opinion on that.
As soon as I saw the thread title, I didn't even have to think. Oov then Savior. Boxer is very debatable too, but then so is Giyom. If you guys thought Savior antis were bad, I remember how much hate Oov got for raping everyone early on. LOL People hated him cuz he won too much.
On July 28 2007 00:27 koryano321 wrote: oov is one of the scarriest 15 month long streaks you have ever seen. comon a winning percentage of like 78%? even savior never reached that but meh, gaming scene is diff than it was back than. julyzerg also had like a 12 month reigning era but yeah.... how could you forget those people?
I loved July's era. I would like to see him reign again. I entered this seen during his time and didn't really get to see oov but wow! Ovv was crazy... I think I have to see some of his videos from the beginning of his career.
If this thread is about who had the best run, then the answer is Grrr and the thread is over.
But if we want to talk about who we think was the best in our eyes at the time, this is totally different.
For me, it's July, hands down. I found him more terrifying during his post Oov smashing days than any other player before or after. He broke ZvP. Stats be damned, no one ever ran in ZvP like he did. No one!
Saviors wsa the best 2 reasons hes my fav and also his reign was the most media hyped making for exciting seasons and videos haha
too bad yellow never had a reign well he did have one as the best and most powerful zerg player but constaly got shoved into 2nd in the leagues next to boxer or some random terran back in the day
On July 28 2007 19:09 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Kinda surprised nobody has mentioned Boxer really (at least I didnt see it). As a "devil's advocate" I would like to throw that name out. He may not have had consecutive big titles but he certainly held the KESPA #1 rank for nearly a record time I believe? His TvZ was considered fairly dominant and his TvT was near the tops. Is it because his TvP was so weak nobody considers him?
BoxeR held kespa #1 rank for 17 consecutive months, IIRC. Longest reign.
haha dam savior ruined his but right now savior has been ranked 1 in kespa for 7 months in a row this hole year haha always by like 500 points to
EPT
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