EPTWho's reign was best? - Page 2
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oshibori_probe
United States2933 Posts
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estebannam
United States187 Posts
On July 28 2007 00:09 dementus wrote: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/Column/oovrecord.jpg) | ||
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Evilmonkey.
United States1628 Posts
On July 28 2007 01:28 oshibori_probe wrote: However, boxer was left behind when macro counted. If left behind means 3 more OSL finals appearences -_-. | ||
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Storchen
Sweden4385 Posts
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micronesia
United States24690 Posts
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GTR
51461 Posts
I believe no one ever at all has done that before, except maybe NaDa, but that was ages ago, and for an extremely short period. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Korea (South)1497 Posts
On July 28 2007 00:09 dementus wrote: qft | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33397 Posts
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True_Spike
Poland3424 Posts
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dementus
Singapore1151 Posts
boxer's reign was definitely beneficial as his entertaining, creative, and innovative play drew many fans to the e-sports scene. his amazing plays demonstrated to everyone how entertaining watching a mere computer game could be. it was also during this period that his rivalry with yellow was the most intense, so this spiced up e-sports. games were definitely exciting to watch, kinda like an 'el classico' (real madrid vs barca, huge rivalry in spanish football in case non-soccer fans are reading this) of progaming if you will. i didn't watch progaming around the time when nada emerged, but i can imagine it must've been amazing when a wunderkind appeared on the scene and started consistently beating boxer, and other established pros (he beat chrh in a televised game as an amateur too). the combination of giant killing, and the rise of a talented, young star definitely drew even more interest to the game. i also feel nada's strength in macro also paved the way for oov's later success, as the game slowly moved away from micro intensive play. of course, we all know he grew up, endured and overcame a few slumps to become arguably the most successful bw progamer of all time. the iloveoov, july, ipxzerg streaks were spectacular, because of how they came out of nowhere and more or less smashed everyone (oov's disgusting 27-0 tvz debut run, and how savior went to 4 more msl finals after winning uzoo certainly come to mind). i still go with iloveoov though, because the stats during his reign were disgusting. progamers were getting overwhelmed by sheer macro, and i think it's safe to say iloveoov's run had a huge part to play in how the modern game has leaned towards macro. i also can't imagine someone suddenly appearing on the scene and raping it up the way he did again, although savior was pretty close to that. also note, he won 3 msls and 1 osl in 2003-2004, the period of his dominance. this run had human drama (overcoming his master in the ever osl final), and was a demonstration of brute force (3 consecutive msl wins), too. as such, i feel oov's run was the 'best' one, if you were to go by statistics, and intangibles. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
although nada's was amazing as well.. | ||
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taktak
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
Even if the numbers dont show a iloveoovesque dominance, It was humilliation in most games. He just played with Goliath drops TvP. Valkiries TvZ. He dominated with everything. He could be losing a TvZ and came back by using dropships alone. Even if he didnt won as much as others like iloveoov, savior or nada, his wins and comeback totally made his opponents look like newbies at the game. | ||
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Pads
England3228 Posts
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LibertyTerran
Vietnam711 Posts
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RivetHead
United States842 Posts
On July 28 2007 04:03 IntoTheWow wrote: Are you kidding me? Boxer. Even if the numbers dont show a iloveoovesque dominance, It was humilliation in most games. He just played with Goliath drops TvP. Valkiries TvZ. He dominated with everything. He could be losing a TvZ and came back by using dropships alone. Even if he didnt won as much as others like iloveoov, savior or nada, his wins and comeback totally made his opponents look like newbies at the game. This type of question can be misleading in that it is asking for the most dominant reign of a player. The game has evolved quite a bit from its beginnings, so each time period closer to the present in which a player played is more and more difficult. Nowadays, there are so many good pros that it is a tossup to see who will be in the finals of a league. Everyone is much more evenly matched than boxer's or giyom's day. Now this brings in the arguement, is someone who is pretty dominant in the current age, such as savior (a few months ago really), more worthy of the title of strongest than Nada or Boxer, who's styles were parts of the major evolutions of the game. Would you have to go to a middle ground, such as iloveoov, who dominated not all that long ago when competition was getting very strong, yet still showed amazing results. I think the best answer can be done by statistics showing best winning percentage of any of these players over the course of their reign. People will try to dispute the statistics and prove somehow that their favorite is was the strongest, yet pretty much any other way of looking at it becomes more opinion and conjecture than fact and truth. | ||
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JensOfSweden
Cameroon1767 Posts
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Raidern
Brazil3811 Posts
even today you get the feeling that if he really wanted he'd be kicking anyone's ass | ||
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