EPTSaying Goodbye to ASL English - Page 32
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bracala
95 Posts
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superjoppe
Sweden3686 Posts
On March 16 2021 21:44 bracala wrote: Ok guys you talking same thing again and again. Someone will watch any english cast,someone only Tastosis,someone think Scan and Nyoken is better then Tastosis. Stop spaming the thread most people expect to read here something new from Artosis and Tasteless about possible patreon or whatever so we can know if there is a chance for Tastosis cast. Yeah shame on people for discussing on a discussion forum. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On March 16 2021 18:21 tanngard wrote: I agree that the ones blaming Afreeca are in the wrong, but that's what happens when people are upset and have a lack of knowledge of the situation. You and Jealous don't have to go overboard with the insults just because some of them are perhaps not thinking through what they are writing? . I have not insulted anyone. Why say this? | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
But still, calling people utterly fanatic isn't excactly very emphathetic considering how much the tastosis stream meant to them. I also feel it's not correct to summarize this thread as being filled with fanatics. Instead you could see the value in how much attention towards BW tastosis has managed to generate. I feel like there is still this sense of snobbery towards tastosis going on amongst some of you guys. Like i said, a lot of the people that you are referring to has indeed not thought the matter of no tastosis stream the whole way through, but is being demeaning towards them helpful? I don't see how it is. | ||
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lastprobeALIVE
United States974 Posts
They took that away from me, damn them! | ||
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nikolaus8844
114 Posts
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ExpatRights
53 Posts
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Jealous
10314 Posts
On March 17 2021 17:42 tanngard wrote: Perhaps it was me who went overboard by saying that you went overboard. Sorry about that. But still, calling people utterly fanatic isn't excactly very emphathetic considering how much the tastosis stream meant to them. I also feel it's not correct to summarize this thread as being filled with fanatics. Instead you could see the value in how much attention towards BW tastosis has managed to generate. I feel like there is still this sense of snobbery towards tastosis going on amongst some of you guys. Like i said, a lot of the people that you are referring to has indeed not thought the matter of no tastosis stream the whole way through, but is being demeaning towards them helpful? I don't see how it is. The poster in question had the gall to call Scan and Nyoken a "sub optimum" casting pair while they are jumping in to provide what is a free service to the community that the community clearly needs (as evidenced by this thread). I'm going to call out that shit behavior 10/10 times and if you're defending that rhetoric you can get bent too. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4253 Posts
On March 17 2021 21:13 ExpatRights wrote: there's English casts again?!?! Yes. | ||
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pigbanana
Canada20 Posts
Anyways, this was a great thread. Takes me back 10+ years on these forums with all the fanboyism and arguments. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On March 17 2021 17:42 tanngard wrote: What snobbery? I've written nothing here about Tastosis's cast itself. Perhaps it was me who went overboard by saying that you went overboard. Sorry about that. But still, calling people utterly fanatic isn't excactly very emphathetic considering how much the tastosis stream meant to them. I also feel it's not correct to summarize this thread as being filled with fanatics. Instead you could see the value in how much attention towards BW tastosis has managed to generate. I feel like there is still this sense of snobbery towards tastosis going on amongst some of you guys. Like i said, a lot of the people that you are referring to has indeed not thought the matter of no tastosis stream the whole way through, but is being demeaning towards them helpful? I don't see how it is. The snobbery are those who call a community caster and someone who is actually playing in ASL as sub-optimal. Those same community casters who have actually interacted with the community for years. Those who say they would no longer watch BW if their favourite casters aren't being given money. Their interest in BW is a net zero value to me at best if they stop watching BW simply because their favourite caster isn't being paid to cast. Utterly fanatic is an accurate description for someone who decided that their favourite caster, is now factually the best, as decided by a community they have never interacted with before, notwithstanding the contradiction that opinion can never become fact anyhow. | ||
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ggsimida
1156 Posts
On March 17 2021 17:42 tanngard wrote: Perhaps it was me who went overboard by saying that you went overboard. Sorry about that. But still, calling people utterly fanatic isn't excactly very emphathetic considering how much the tastosis stream meant to them. I also feel it's not correct to summarize this thread as being filled with fanatics. Instead you could see the value in how much attention towards BW tastosis has managed to generate. I feel like there is still this sense of snobbery towards tastosis going on amongst some of you guys. Like i said, a lot of the people that you are referring to has indeed not thought the matter of no tastosis stream the whole way through, but is being demeaning towards them helpful? I don't see how it is. one of them have literally just sent a toxic PM to another BW caster, saw it on discord. "fanatic" is a apt description for em. | ||
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Samba
Germany452 Posts
On March 03 2021 12:01 Xenixx wrote: Been years since I've logged onto this but that's how strongly I feel about this move AfreecaTV. With this move you've completely lost my support, I'm not watching or supporting the ASL without an english cast. And I encourage every foreigner to do the same. Where's the loyalty for not only the english speaking community but the casters? I've watched competitive SCBW for 20 years at this point. Completely agree with this! And be vocal about it, let them know what a low move this was! | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On March 17 2021 21:29 Jealous wrote: The poster in question had the gall to call Scan and Nyoken a "sub optimum" casting pair while they are jumping in to provide what is a free service to the community that the community clearly needs (as evidenced by this thread). I'm going to call out that shit behavior 10/10 times and if you're defending that rhetoric you can get bent too. No, of course i don't defend that rhetoric. If you knew anything about me you would know that much. Most people mean well. But on the internet, normal decency gets thrown out of the window because of various factors. This goes for everyone. I have been harsh in my use of words myself. I think you are great Jealous and that this community is lucky to have you. I'm not saying that we should never use antagonistic rhetoric, because when someone chooses to word themselves in ways that is disrespectful, they might deserve the same treatment themselves. If only to make them look themselves in the mirror and feel a bit of shame for how they have been behaving. But i won't always stand by and not argue for a different approach when i see someone in my community going overboard with insults. Calling someone a "fucking moron" is just that. It does not mean i think your are a terrible person Jealous - you are allowed to be upset as well. But don't expect this world to not say "hey, wow, slow down a little" when words gets too heated. You would't want TL to be a place where shit hits the fan everyother day either. | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On March 18 2021 10:16 ggsimida wrote: one of them have literally just sent a toxic PM to another BW caster, saw it on discord. "fanatic" is a apt description for em. Sure there are fanatics, but this thread is not "filled with tastosis fanatics". Altough if what you say is true, that someone is a real nutcase. Have you never been fanatical about anything? Sure some people in this thread might be putting all their eggs in the tastosis basket, but that's just their feelings you know. How do we get them to feel like there are other casters and events in BW that is worth watching too? Maybe if we show that this is a community that is understanding and positive they would want to stick around and see the the value in it? | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2398 Posts
You aren't owed anything, and the idea that Afreeca is "betraying" their fans by ceasing to operate at a loss to give them stuff is ridiculous. The entitlement is off the charts and I guess I can feel comfortable saying I thought TL was a little better than that because most of you re-registered or de-lurked just to whine. I love Tastosis, I think they're amazing and I feel sorry that they can't keep doing a job they love (glad they have other opportunities) but even they're not *entitled* to that job, talented and entertaining as they are. Let alone all you crybaby kids. | ||
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ggsimida
1156 Posts
On March 18 2021 17:17 tanngard wrote: Sure there are fanatics, but this thread is not "filled with tastosis fanatics". Altough if what you say is true, that someone is a real nutcase. Have you never been fanatical about anything? Sure some people in this thread might be putting all their eggs in the tastosis basket, but that's just their feelings you know. How do we get them to feel like there are other casters and events in BW that is worth watching too? Maybe if we show that this is a community that is understanding and positive they would want to stick around and see the the value in it? denying that tastosis fanatics exists here in this 30+ page thread (high for a dead forum) ->have you ever been fanatical about anything? yeah i have been fanatical about stuff, but not to the point of dissing (obviously or subtly) on other casters, calling korean casting trash, essentially declaring bw is dead if not for tastosis etc. even if half of those are trolling it already says something, | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On March 18 2021 18:28 ggsimida wrote: denying that tastosis fanatics exists here in this 30+ page thread (high for a dead forum) ->have you ever been fanatical about anything? yeah i have been fanatical about stuff, but not to the point of dissing (obviously or subtly) on other casters, calling korean casting trash, essentially declaring bw is dead if not for tastosis etc. even if half of those are trolling it already says something, There is a difference between denying the existence of fanatics in this thread and denying that they make up the majority of the thread. What i see is mostly an outporing of appreciation for tastosis and how they have functioned as an important gateway for people to enjoy BW. Now, a part of that appreciation and love is being expressed in the form of frustration and short sightedness in the face of Afreeca terminating their contract with tastosis. You and me know that Afreeca have basically provided the tastosis stream for free the last 10 season, with limited ways of profitting from it. Clearly many of the people that is expressing anger towards Afreeca is not aware of this. We could either explain this fact to them in a friendly manner or we can attack them and call them idiots. That is the jest of what i'm trying to get at. Most of the experienced and respected TL members are both fair and friendly, so it shouldn't be a problem really  | ||
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ggsimida
1156 Posts
On March 18 2021 21:14 tanngard wrote: There is a difference between denying the existence of fanatics in this thread and denying that they make up the majority of the thread. What i see is mostly an outporing of appreciation for tastosis and how they have functioned as an important gateway for people to enjoy BW. Now, a part of that appreciation and love is being expressed in the form of frustration and short sightedness in the face of Afreeca terminating their contract with tastosis. You and me know that Afreeca have basically provided the tastosis stream for free the last 10 season, with limited ways of profitting from it. Clearly many of the people that is expressing anger towards Afreeca is not aware of this. We could either explain this fact to them in a friendly manner or we can attack them and call them idiots. That is the jest of what i'm trying to get at. Most of the experienced and respected TL members are both fair and friendly, so it shouldn't be a problem really i partially agree because you are also defending trolls in the process. seeing esteemed posters writing paragraphs of niceties to posters with few posts who obviously don't care, effectively wasting their time and effort..pfft | ||
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Szinkler
Hungary394 Posts
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