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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
March 22 2021 08:58 GMT
#661
On March 22 2021 13:32 Sva3 wrote:
If anyone wants to support their ASL english patreon

https://www.patreon.com/ASLenglish


Kind of sad that they feel the need to get out the begging bowl like this when Scan/Nyoken have already stepped up to the plate to fill the English gap, but I guess this will show just what parts of the community are interested in the game, and what parts of the community are only interested in the casters - and if the latter, why aren't people just subscribing to their Twitch or donating directly? Would just be a huge shame if this splinters things, but given how incredibly resistant some people are to change I guess this is an inevitable risk
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Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden317 Posts
March 22 2021 09:31 GMT
#662
On March 22 2021 17:58 sixfour wrote:
Kind of sad that they feel the need to get out the begging bowl like this when Scan/Nyoken have already stepped up to the plate to fill the English gap, but I guess this will show just what parts of the community are interested in the game, and what parts of the community are only interested in the casters - and if the latter, why aren't people just subscribing to their Twitch or donating directly? Would just be a huge shame if this splinters things, but given how incredibly resistant some people are to change I guess this is an inevitable risk


I think this is a really weird take, I find it inspiring and great that they can show that there is a market for english casting like this.

Your comment about it showing what the community is interested in is pretty narrowminded.

The AfreecaTV app sucks so bad and the website video barely even works on my tablet, so I am very happy that I can watch it on youtube instead.

I don't know how Scan and Nyoken is as casters, I am probably gonna check them out as well.

But I also wanna support Tastosis for the work they put in and to show Afreeca that there is a market and hopefully get the 2 of them back in the studio eventually.
nah
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1267 Posts
March 22 2021 09:38 GMT
#663
Already halfway there to their goal. They're probably going to smash it.

Can't say I'll watch the youtube vods though, from what I understand those would be quite far apart from the live-cast and that's a bit of a deal-breaker for me.

Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 22 2021 09:52 GMT
#664
On March 22 2021 17:58 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2021 13:32 Sva3 wrote:
If anyone wants to support their ASL english patreon

https://www.patreon.com/ASLenglish


Kind of sad that they feel the need to get out the begging bowl like this when Scan/Nyoken have already stepped up to the plate to fill the English gap, but I guess this will show just what parts of the community are interested in the game, and what parts of the community are only interested in the casters - and if the latter, why aren't people just subscribing to their Twitch or donating directly? Would just be a huge shame if this splinters things, but given how incredibly resistant some people are to change I guess this is an inevitable risk

at least it means the scan/nyoken stream will only have the ubermensch of the bw community, upstanding members such as yourself

the tastosis vods will serve as a lightening rod for us plebs that you hate so much anyway
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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-22 10:02:33
March 22 2021 10:02 GMT
#665
On March 22 2021 17:58 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2021 13:32 Sva3 wrote:
If anyone wants to support their ASL english patreon

https://www.patreon.com/ASLenglish


Kind of sad that they feel the need to get out the begging bowl like this when Scan/Nyoken have already stepped up to the plate to fill the English gap, but I guess this will show just what parts of the community are interested in the game, and what parts of the community are only interested in the casters - and if the latter, why aren't people just subscribing to their Twitch or donating directly? Would just be a huge shame if this splinters things, but given how incredibly resistant some people are to change I guess this is an inevitable risk



I'm a bit in between on this topic. And I'll try to explain why.

1st - its great that tasteless and artosis are casting ASL. They are popular and many people like them.

But on 2nd thought what really annoys is me that Artosis tried to make it sound like they need money to pay afreeca for the stream... while in the official Afreeca announcement we can clearly read:
"Communities and English casters are still allowed, and encouraged, to broadcast the ASL to their own fans through our clean feed on their AfreecaTV Channels."


This whole thing really bugs me.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51623 Posts
March 22 2021 10:15 GMT
#666
I can only hope that reaching the second goal can reach a greater value like actually covering ASTL.
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7085 Posts
March 22 2021 10:39 GMT
#667
Passion doesn't pay anyone's bills. Go donate if you are able.
t1mz_
Profile Joined October 2020
Russian Federation16 Posts
March 22 2021 10:50 GMT
#668
I still don't get why Tastosis cannot cast ASL live on Afreeca.tv.
Samsakzerg
Profile Joined October 2019
61 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-22 10:52:05
March 22 2021 10:50 GMT
#669
Donated as I promised, hope this works out and we can cover ASTL as well.

Will still catch Scan and Nyoken live, the more the merrier.

The fact that not casting live has not deterred so many people from donating, hopefully will show that Tastosis can co-exist with community casters.
Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden317 Posts
March 22 2021 10:55 GMT
#670
On March 22 2021 19:02 BlueStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
"Communities and English casters are still allowed, and encouraged, to broadcast the ASL to their own fans through our clean feed on their AfreecaTV Channels."


This whole thing really bugs me.


Artosis and Tasteless are Twitch partners so there is some issues there, I am not sure how that works.

The Afreeca thing is only for streaming on Afreeca, and Tastosis knows they won't reach a broader audience if they do it on Afreeca.
nah
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7085 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-22 10:59:08
March 22 2021 10:58 GMT
#671
On March 22 2021 19:55 Barneyk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2021 19:02 BlueStar wrote:
"Communities and English casters are still allowed, and encouraged, to broadcast the ASL to their own fans through our clean feed on their AfreecaTV Channels."


This whole thing really bugs me.


Artosis and Tasteless are Twitch partners so there is some issues there, I am not sure how that works.

The Afreeca thing is only for streaming on Afreeca, and Tastosis knows they won't reach a broader audience if they do it on Afreeca.

There'd also be 0% incentive for afreeca to ever again pay them for their cast if they do it for free on their platform anyway.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22658 Posts
March 22 2021 11:00 GMT
#672
On March 22 2021 19:55 Barneyk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2021 19:02 BlueStar wrote:
"Communities and English casters are still allowed, and encouraged, to broadcast the ASL to their own fans through our clean feed on their AfreecaTV Channels."


This whole thing really bugs me.


Artosis and Tasteless are Twitch partners so there is some issues there, I am not sure how that works.

The Afreeca thing is only for streaming on Afreeca, and Tastosis knows they won't reach a broader audience if they do it on Afreeca.
If they are twitch partners I assume they are not allowed to broadcast on Afreeca under their own channel (casting for the someone else like Afreeca obv doesn't count)
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Tribune
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia60 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-22 11:14:17
March 22 2021 11:13 GMT
#673
Super pumped for live nyoken-scan with tastosis VODs!!!
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
March 22 2021 11:16 GMT
#674
This is really great news! I have almost given up as the time was closing in on us. I was hoping for a live cast, bit sad it's not possible. But you have to start somewhere, became a patreon as promised of course. Let's hope in time this whole thing will grow and maybe in the future we will be able to see Tastosis cast ASL live on twitch/youtube.
Thank you everyone involved behind the results! Good luck with the work!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12059 Posts
March 22 2021 11:17 GMT
#675
On March 22 2021 16:28 Waxangel wrote:
AfreecaTV: There's no benefit for us in making English language content with our own money, so we'll stop doing it.

AfreecaTV: ...But if the foreign community REALLY wants it, they can pay for it themselves, we suppose?

Nothing about this is irrational, but it still feels pretty bad.


I'm guessing if Dan/Nick both start making a bunch of money from this Afreeca will happily take over again and take the money themselves, but until it's been proven it'll make them anything they won't bother.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10395 Posts
March 22 2021 11:53 GMT
#676
This is great news Happy for all the supporters in this thread.
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 22 2021 11:55 GMT
#677
I hope Tastosis ends up making more money through this than through Afreeca. Supported!
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3381 Posts
March 22 2021 12:14 GMT
#678
It's not ideal but if the best is impossible then this is the best.

I hope they can upload the VODs as soon as the live events end. Not everyone can catch live broadcast due to time zone, works, etc. so they can still see the VODs and have a similar experience I suppose. In addition, it's nice to add ASL11 cast by Tastosis to the ASL library that already exists on YouTube. I'm sure many of us have saved that playlist and visit the old games all the time for entertainment.

Tbh I think the Scan Nyoken cast is more analytical than Tastosis, but the latter is more entertaining (that's not to say at all that Tastosis cast is not in-depth in knowledge) so we even have options here people!!

Now where's my wallet.

Btw I think I will make a donation for the Scan Nyoken cast as well to support them. I suppose we'll be able to do that once their Afreeca stream goes up?
Kaylosio
Profile Joined March 2021
2 Posts
March 22 2021 12:20 GMT
#679
https://www.patreon.com/ASLenglish

This thing is inofficial, isnt it? Some random guy could have created that thing and do whatever he wants with the money, doesnt he
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
March 22 2021 12:22 GMT
#680
If Tastosis are to VODcast I hope they are able to do so unspoilered, you lose a bit of magic when the commentators aren’t as blind to events as you are.
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