EPTBtw OGN just did this little thing.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/604009477
Anyone know what's up with that?
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SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
Btw OGN just did this little thing. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/604009477 Anyone know what's up with that? | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13295 Posts
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
On April 27 2020 21:52 ne4aJIb wrote: Is it just one quick tournament? Or a long one like proleague? no details as of yet, this isn't even a formal announcement. | ||
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SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
They run the star league, they provide the streaming service that's the main income of the successful players/streamers. If Samsung would feel that it'd be a good thing to have their name on Stork, wouldn't it have to go through Afreeca for at least ASL matches? Maybe I see too much greed and difficulties. Maybe it's simpler than that. | ||
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
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Ikirouta
Finland738 Posts
On April 27 2020 22:30 Akio wrote: A team league would be so hype, best part of Starcraft esports in my opinion This. Teamleague with 2v2 is the best. Old proleague format pls. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3690 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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outscar
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SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
On April 28 2020 00:56 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Don't understand how they will select the teams in the first place. There's no real incentive to only practice within the team and keep strats secret wthin the group either as all players are essentially independents who have been thrown together without the binding contracts that team sponsership and money brings. Proleague style teams don't seem to make sense in the present era of broodwar. There's nothing to tie these individual players together. It'll just be a hollow concept, akin to a bunch of players randomly matching with each other. Sure there's a risk for this. But I think your take on it is wrong. Humans are very simple us and them creatures when it comes to teams. Just think of a rocket league game. In que for a 3v3. U get 5 other players around the same rank. Then they're splitinto 2 teams. And suddenly your opponent trying to score against you is your enemy, and you/your teammates bm them. And your teammate scoring is cheered for. Or you/they bm your own team out of dissapointment in their part in your teams performance. Just look at Larvas joker video. They randomize teams, play a long bo 15 game series, really cheer for those in their team. Prices, glory, fear of defeat. There's a lot of simple incentives to engage people in teams. How exactly it's done in this era I don't know but I don't think it'd be a hollow concept, don't think it's difficult. Back in kespa days they'd practice with people from other teams before starleague games anyway. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8506 Posts
Broodwar forever !  | ||
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Sk0
Morocco85 Posts
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4228 Posts
On April 28 2020 00:30 Ikirouta wrote: This. Teamleague with 2v2 is the best. Old proleague format pls. I second this idea | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On April 28 2020 02:22 SirGlinG wrote: Sure there's a risk for this. But I think your take on it is wrong. Humans are very simple us and them creatures when it comes to teams. Just think of a rocket league game. In que for a 3v3. U get 5 other players around the same rank. Then they're splitinto 2 teams. And suddenly your opponent trying to score against you is your enemy, and you/your teammates bm them. And your teammate scoring is cheered for. Or you/they bm your own team out of dissapointment in their part in your teams performance. Just look at Larvas joker video. They randomize teams, play a long bo 15 game series, really cheer for those in their team. Prices, glory, fear of defeat. There's a lot of simple incentives to engage people in teams. How exactly it's done in this era I don't know but I don't think it'd be a hollow concept, don't think it's difficult. Back in kespa days they'd practice with people from other teams before starleague games anyway. I'm not saying they can't form teams. I'm saying how can it possibly be a competition between teams when there is nothing to bind the teams together as the teams are not a distinct entity? You can throw a bunch of players into separate teams, but when prize money is at stake, who wouldn't want to be on Flash's team? If there's no prize money, where is the incentive for the players to play their best? Sure, you can cheer for a team, play for the team you are on, but that doesn't change that it's no longer a competition if no prize money is involved, or that it is more chance of how the teams are made that determines who gets the money. If there is no money, you are asking players to adhere to a schedule and play for free. If there is money, how can it be fair to determine the prize of slapdash put together teams? How would those issues be addressed? | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
On April 29 2020 21:38 Dangermousecatdog wrote: I'm not saying they can't form teams. I'm saying how can it possibly be a competition between teams when there is nothing to bind the teams together as the teams are not a distinct entity? You can throw a bunch of players into separate teams, but when prize money is at stake, who wouldn't want to be on Flash's team? If there's no prize money, where is the incentive for the players to play their best? Sure, you can cheer for a team, play for the team you are on, but that doesn't change that it's no longer a competition if no prize money is involved, or that it is more chance of how the teams are made that determines who gets the money. If there is no money, you are asking players to adhere to a schedule and play for free. If there is money, how can it be fair to determine the prize of slapdash put together teams? How would those issues be addressed? Well They'd play it, they wouldn't leave the competition because of unfair teams. And Afreeca would want a good competiyion for the viewers. What signs from the history of korean e-sports point towards them not caring? It's not like they give up on ASL because of Flash. And it's not even clear wether it'd be an all kill league or a regular 5 match format. In old teams they had snipers. People practicing one specific match up, some where even just known to be experts on one specific map. And no pricemoney? This is just a rumor, I saw nothing about no pricemoney. If they start a team league there'll likely be pricemoney. Pro league was always the most valued competition among koreans. Unless their culture somehow has been radically individualised over the last 8 years they'll still care about it even if it's a different kind of team league. I think we've painted very different pictures of what it'd likely look like if they follow through with it. | ||
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kaspa84
Brazil169 Posts
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art_of_turtle
United States1202 Posts
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