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d4d
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland1066 Posts
December 14 2021 22:28 GMT
#761
Okay this is neat. I really enjoy those bots. But there are too few of those. How can we help? Is there a Patreon?
luck is not a factor
TL+ Member
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1906 Posts
December 14 2021 22:34 GMT
#762
What about giving zerg players (not randoms into zerg) bonus points since they are at a disadvantage, the ladder would look more fair this way
Calendaraka Foxhan
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway27242 Posts
December 14 2021 22:39 GMT
#763
then teams with zergs would be disadvantaged because the mmr would give them worse team partners.. that would just make life harder for zergs, not better.
ModeratorI had to change my quote to seem more serious because I'm trying to use myself in an academic text :(
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1906 Posts
December 14 2021 23:04 GMT
#764
Aren't there two MMR, the displayed one and the "real one" which is hidden? Apply the bonus only to the displayed one
Calendaraka Foxhan
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1955 Posts
December 15 2021 08:57 GMT
#765
I agree that some fixing around zerg would be nice. Maybe algorythm should consider zerg as "weaker", although it wont fix random. ;-)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
d4d
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland1066 Posts
December 15 2021 10:30 GMT
#766
Well, I just got read the 39 pages of backlog here. (loved the episode with lpapp/krsna, you guys should check it out. It is a long stretching piece of psychological drama serie, worth it...)

Very interesting project. I am an old player (been around since 98), have a good grasp of the flow of the game but am low apm (60).
This bot is perfect for me. I do not fit in newbies games (except the newbie bashing one) and get crushed by 200 apm 2v2 team.
So I am the perfect exemple of the E player you want in your team, and I applaude the balance feature.

I want once again to thank D3AD-R3TARD for the work, and I know you said, on page 3, or so that you do not need help, but if a patreon or something like that would help to pay for the bot to be online, I am in.
Even for one more bot, sometimes during rush hours, it could be useful.
luck is not a factor
TL+ Member
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1283 Posts
December 15 2021 11:26 GMT
#767
+1 for setting up a patreon and the huge shoutout for your work!

On December 15 2021 19:30 d4d wrote:
Well, I just got read the 39 pages of backlog here. (loved the episode with lpapp/krsna, you guys should check it out. It is a long stretching piece of psychological drama serie, worth it...)

Very interesting project. I am an old player (been around since 98), have a good grasp of the flow of the game but am low apm (60).
This bot is perfect for me. I do not fit in newbies games (except the newbie bashing one) and get crushed by 200 apm 2v2 team.
So I am the perfect exemple of the E player you want in your team, and I applaude the balance feature.

I want once again to thank D3AD-R3TARD for the work, and I know you said, on page 3, or so that you do not need help, but if a patreon or something like that would help to pay for the bot to be online, I am in.
Even for one more bot, sometimes during rush hours, it could be useful.

Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland517 Posts
December 15 2021 11:55 GMT
#768
Do i have to meet any requirements to play on this bot? how? The only lobbies i see are "BGH3x3 BghMmrBot_3 +50 wins" and I get banned from it (probably because I have never played on this bot before). I don't get it :D
Be the change you want to see in the world.
d4d
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland1066 Posts
December 15 2021 13:09 GMT
#769
On December 15 2021 20:55 Netto. wrote:
Do i have to meet any requirements to play on this bot? how? The only lobbies i see are "BGH3x3 BghMmrBot_3 +50 wins" and I get banned from it (probably because I have never played on this bot before). I don't get it :D


You need to have win 50 custom games in order to qualify.
luck is not a factor
TL+ Member
D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland149 Posts
December 16 2021 23:55 GMT
#770
On December 06 2021 09:12 d4d wrote:
Jeeez that script is dope. Thanks to whoever made it. I can finally play some BW again and not only watch it!


On December 13 2021 23:33 kogeT wrote:
Script is amazing, most of the games are fun even if I end up with super noobs in my team it is somehow relatively balanced. ;-)


Thanks. I'm very glad to hear that.

On December 13 2021 22:30 Wormer wrote:
Teamkiller report
Date of Game : 2021-12-13 12:30
Player : CumRocket (attacking and killing rOcCo_hT)


Banned

On December 15 2021 07:34 HaN- wrote:
What about giving zerg players (not randoms into zerg) bonus points since they are at a disadvantage, the ladder would look more fair this way


If the games are supposed to be balanced, with each tame have 50/50 chance, MMR must reflect the real strength of a player.

On December 15 2021 07:39 Liquid`Drone wrote:
then teams with zergs would be disadvantaged because the mmr would give them worse team partners.. that would just make life harder for zergs, not better.


Exactly

On December 15 2021 08:04 HaN- wrote:
Aren't there two MMR, the displayed one and the "real one" which is hidden? Apply the bonus only to the displayed one


There is only real MMR. I guess you mean something like LoL league points. I thought about implementing that, as that might motivate high MMR players to play more, but I haven't decided yet. For now there is only one number, and it's not hidden.

On December 15 2021 19:30 d4d wrote:
Well, I just got read the 39 pages of backlog here. (loved the episode with lpapp/krsna, you guys should check it out. It is a long stretching piece of psychological drama serie, worth it...)

Very interesting project. I am an old player (been around since 98), have a good grasp of the flow of the game but am low apm (60).
This bot is perfect for me. I do not fit in newbies games (except the newbie bashing one) and get crushed by 200 apm 2v2 team.
So I am the perfect exemple of the E player you want in your team, and I applaude the balance feature.

I want once again to thank D3AD-R3TARD for the work, and I know you said, on page 3, or so that you do not need help, but if a patreon or something like that would help to pay for the bot to be online, I am in.
Even for one more bot, sometimes during rush hours, it could be useful.


Again, thanks. Great to hear that this bot makes BGH games better for the players.

www.bghmmr.eu
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1283 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-27 15:36:04
December 27 2021 15:35 GMT
#771
Hey,

Today we had a bigger / longer BGH match with the bot and I figured out that Valks were unable to fire. Are the Bot games not started with the setting to prevent this? This was quite unfortunate to see 8 Valks sitting mid air and just looking at Guardians or one Valk firing just one projectile instead of a volley. Had not seen that before :-/ Can you have a look at this? It was a game from EU4 bot at about 16:10 CET.

Thank you!

EDIT: just confirmed it says unit limit "original" :-/
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2389 Posts
December 27 2021 21:02 GMT
#772
On December 28 2021 00:35 Chosi wrote:
Hey,

Today we had a bigger / longer BGH match with the bot and I figured out that Valks were unable to fire. Are the Bot games not started with the setting to prevent this? This was quite unfortunate to see 8 Valks sitting mid air and just looking at Guardians or one Valk firing just one projectile instead of a volley. Had not seen that before :-/ Can you have a look at this? It was a game from EU4 bot at about 16:10 CET.

Thank you!

EDIT: just confirmed it says unit limit "original" :-/


That’s normal; it’s too many sprites, plus you had 6 players in game=1200 units instead of 400, so it fires even less;

Yeah that’s also why people rarely use more than 1 or 2 valks or a group max; part of the balance of the game, with all its bugs and tips and tricks
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
9160 Posts
December 27 2021 21:51 GMT
#773
I don't think the extended unit limit actually impacts that either? I remember reading something like that.
𝐶𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑖𝑛𝑛𝑒𝑟 𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒. -- бум бум сучка!
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1283 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-27 22:08:17
December 27 2021 22:06 GMT
#774
It's exactly that setting that is on "original" that was introduced to fix this bug, you just need to turn it on. See here: (Wiki)Valkyrie ->
However, when playing SC:Remastered and the Unit Limit is set to Extended, the cap is set sufficiently high such that this will rarely (if ever) be a problem and the Valkyrie will fire reliably.


So again, could you have your bots games set to "extended" rather then original?
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
CaHek1
Profile Joined December 2021
1 Post
December 28 2021 16:50 GMT
#775
Great bot! Can you please create more for EU servers? Need to wait too much time
Rosis_Maus
Profile Joined May 2021
8 Posts
December 29 2021 22:46 GMT
#776
Hello,

I have to report an allykill in this game:

3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-12-29 22:35

Minute 10:59: MotleyCrue killed my drones that I sent to his base.
Minute 13:15: After that he also killed my emergency pylon that I built in his base and my last drone.
kurrrak
Profile Joined March 2020
Poland54 Posts
December 30 2021 16:18 GMT
#777
Is resetting stats (becoming unranked again) per request possible?

Making new nickname is not possible since achieving 20+ wins took me around 2 months because of being in many set-for-loose teams in casual BGH games and only occasional play.

Now it is 50+ wins threshold, so it would mean I'd have to stop playing BW for good, which in itself wouldn't be that bad, considering the amount of books I have yet to read, but it would be nice to have the possibility to have some oldskool fun from time to time. ^^
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
9160 Posts
December 30 2021 17:12 GMT
#778
On December 31 2021 01:18 kurrrak wrote:
Is resetting stats (becoming unranked again) per request possible?

Making new nickname is not possible since achieving 20+ wins took me around 2 months because of being in many set-for-loose teams in casual BGH games and only occasional play.

Now it is 50+ wins threshold, so it would mean I'd have to stop playing BW for good, which in itself wouldn't be that bad, considering the amount of books I have yet to read, but it would be nice to have the possibility to have some oldskool fun from time to time. ^^

Just curious, why do you want to reset your stats?
𝐶𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑖𝑛𝑛𝑒𝑟 𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒. -- бум бум сучка!
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden765 Posts
December 30 2021 17:44 GMT
#779
On December 30 2021 07:46 Rosis_Maus wrote:
Hello,

I have to report an allykill in this game:

3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-12-29 22:35

Minute 10:59: MotleyCrue killed my drones that I sent to his base.
Minute 13:15: After that he also killed my emergency pylon that I built in his base and my last drone.


If you do dumb stuff in others bases that isnt teamkill but rather defending himself from your selfish plans.

Why even build a pylon (with drone, lul) in someone elses base if youre dead? This is mmr as a team not individual deaths.
-.-
Rosis_Maus
Profile Joined May 2021
8 Posts
December 30 2021 17:58 GMT
#780
@MeSaber

First of all: if i had a pylon, i could have watched the game to the end.

second:I only wanted to build one pylon to survive. I had enough money left, to build a new nexus on a new position on the map, but not at this moment. I was in his base with 3!!! probes. I would not have stolen any minerals. I would have build in antother choke. But own base was destroyd, so I needed a pylon somewhere to survive till i can build new.

Third: you say, it´s a teamgame? OK. Ever played with MotleyCrew? No? Ok.. What he is doing is not teamplay. He does not scout. never. he does not help. never. he does not attack in team. never. so stop teaching me about teamplay.

I´d never dumb stuff in allied bases. I had 4 probes. I sended 3 of them to his minerals. I had no nexus. Funny thing, that you, if you were not on this game, think, i wanted to do some dumb stuff.

And by the way: who ask YOU to commend my threat?


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