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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10229 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-30 18:18:32
December 30 2021 18:18 GMT
#781
On December 31 2021 02:58 Rosis_Maus wrote:
@MeSaber

First of all: if i had a pylon, i could have watched the game to the end.

second:I only wanted to build one pylon to survive. I had enough money left, to build a new nexus on a new position on the map, but not at this moment. I was in his base with 3!!! probes. I would not have stolen any minerals. I would have build in antother choke. But own base was destroyd, so I needed a pylon somewhere to survive till i can build new.

Third: you say, it´s a teamgame? OK. Ever played with MotleyCrew? No? Ok.. What he is doing is not teamplay. He does not scout. never. he does not help. never. he does not attack in team. never. so stop teaching me about teamplay.

I´d never dumb stuff in allied bases. I had 4 probes. I sended 3 of them to his minerals. I had no nexus. Funny thing, that you, if you were not on this game, think, i wanted to do some dumb stuff.

And by the way: who ask YOU to commend my threat?



1. Seems perfectly defensible to not let people fuck around in your base, no matter the justification. Sure, it can be seen as a dick move, and in normal circumstances I wouldn't mind someone building a Pylon in my base to stay alive. But, I also don't think it is the same thing as team-killing and that users should have the option of saying "No thanks, I don't want you in my base." You're not entitled to building shit in someone else's base just to stay alive after you die.

2. You posted a comment on a public thread, one which you do not own or operate, which anyone can view and comment on, so no one cares if you ask someone to "commend on [your] threat" or not. Gtfo.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Deleted User 556753
Profile Joined December 2020
126 Posts
December 30 2021 19:02 GMT
#782
player stefan14 keeps leaving game which are still totally open, like you get attacked as Z and lose 1-2 sunk, he instant leaves... happened like 5 times so far, also when he was on opponent team... I know there isn't a rule really he breaks, still it sucks huge...
Rosis_Maus
Profile Joined May 2021
8 Posts
December 30 2021 19:14 GMT
#783
On December 31 2021 03:18 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2021 02:58 Rosis_Maus wrote:
@MeSaber

First of all: if i had a pylon, i could have watched the game to the end.

second:I only wanted to build one pylon to survive. I had enough money left, to build a new nexus on a new position on the map, but not at this moment. I was in his base with 3!!! probes. I would not have stolen any minerals. I would have build in antother choke. But own base was destroyd, so I needed a pylon somewhere to survive till i can build new.

Third: you say, it´s a teamgame? OK. Ever played with MotleyCrew? No? Ok.. What he is doing is not teamplay. He does not scout. never. he does not help. never. he does not attack in team. never. so stop teaching me about teamplay.

I´d never dumb stuff in allied bases. I had 4 probes. I sended 3 of them to his minerals. I had no nexus. Funny thing, that you, if you were not on this game, think, i wanted to do some dumb stuff.

And by the way: who ask YOU to commend my threat?



1. Seems perfectly defensible to not let people fuck around in your base, no matter the justification. Sure, it can be seen as a dick move, and in normal circumstances I wouldn't mind someone building a Pylon in my base to stay alive. But, I also don't think it is the same thing as team-killing and that users should have the option of saying "No thanks, I don't want you in my base." You're not entitled to building shit in someone else's base just to stay alive after you die.

2. You posted a comment on a public thread, one which you do not own or operate, which anyone can view and comment on, so no one cares if you ask someone to "commend on [your] threat" or not. Gtfo.




I think you have the right to ay: no thanks... But then you have to SAY "no thanks".. and not killing wothout saying anything.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10229 Posts
December 30 2021 19:15 GMT
#784
On December 31 2021 04:14 Rosis_Maus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2021 03:18 Jealous wrote:
On December 31 2021 02:58 Rosis_Maus wrote:
@MeSaber

First of all: if i had a pylon, i could have watched the game to the end.

second:I only wanted to build one pylon to survive. I had enough money left, to build a new nexus on a new position on the map, but not at this moment. I was in his base with 3!!! probes. I would not have stolen any minerals. I would have build in antother choke. But own base was destroyd, so I needed a pylon somewhere to survive till i can build new.

Third: you say, it´s a teamgame? OK. Ever played with MotleyCrew? No? Ok.. What he is doing is not teamplay. He does not scout. never. he does not help. never. he does not attack in team. never. so stop teaching me about teamplay.

I´d never dumb stuff in allied bases. I had 4 probes. I sended 3 of them to his minerals. I had no nexus. Funny thing, that you, if you were not on this game, think, i wanted to do some dumb stuff.

And by the way: who ask YOU to commend my threat?



1. Seems perfectly defensible to not let people fuck around in your base, no matter the justification. Sure, it can be seen as a dick move, and in normal circumstances I wouldn't mind someone building a Pylon in my base to stay alive. But, I also don't think it is the same thing as team-killing and that users should have the option of saying "No thanks, I don't want you in my base." You're not entitled to building shit in someone else's base just to stay alive after you die.

2. You posted a comment on a public thread, one which you do not own or operate, which anyone can view and comment on, so no one cares if you ask someone to "commend on [your] threat" or not. Gtfo.




I think you have the right to ay: no thanks... But then you have to SAY "no thanks".. and not killing wothout saying anything.

That would imply that you said "MotleyCrew, good sir, I request that I may be allowed to reside in your base with my Probes and Pylon so as to not incur a loss for dying in this game," or some such before you placed a Pylon in his base, but something tells me you didn't do that.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Rosis_Maus
Profile Joined May 2021
8 Posts
December 30 2021 19:37 GMT
#785
On December 31 2021 04:15 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2021 04:14 Rosis_Maus wrote:
On December 31 2021 03:18 Jealous wrote:
On December 31 2021 02:58 Rosis_Maus wrote:
@MeSaber

First of all: if i had a pylon, i could have watched the game to the end.

second:I only wanted to build one pylon to survive. I had enough money left, to build a new nexus on a new position on the map, but not at this moment. I was in his base with 3!!! probes. I would not have stolen any minerals. I would have build in antother choke. But own base was destroyd, so I needed a pylon somewhere to survive till i can build new.

Third: you say, it´s a teamgame? OK. Ever played with MotleyCrew? No? Ok.. What he is doing is not teamplay. He does not scout. never. he does not help. never. he does not attack in team. never. so stop teaching me about teamplay.

I´d never dumb stuff in allied bases. I had 4 probes. I sended 3 of them to his minerals. I had no nexus. Funny thing, that you, if you were not on this game, think, i wanted to do some dumb stuff.

And by the way: who ask YOU to commend my threat?



1. Seems perfectly defensible to not let people fuck around in your base, no matter the justification. Sure, it can be seen as a dick move, and in normal circumstances I wouldn't mind someone building a Pylon in my base to stay alive. But, I also don't think it is the same thing as team-killing and that users should have the option of saying "No thanks, I don't want you in my base." You're not entitled to building shit in someone else's base just to stay alive after you die.

2. You posted a comment on a public thread, one which you do not own or operate, which anyone can view and comment on, so no one cares if you ask someone to "commend on [your] threat" or not. Gtfo.




I think you have the right to ay: no thanks... But then you have to SAY "no thanks".. and not killing wothout saying anything.

That would imply that you said "MotleyCrew, good sir, I request that I may be allowed to reside in your base with my Probes and Pylon so as to not incur a loss for dying in this game," or some such before you placed a Pylon in his base, but something tells me you didn't do that.


I think it smells like you are Motley Crew. I dont think, I have to write an official pleasing letter to build one single pylon in my allies base. But I think you wanna blame me for something or making me feel, that I was doing something wrong. I´m very sure, that I didn´t do something wrong. It feels like you think everyone has bad and dumb things in his mind. I dont have. That may be the differnce between us. But if it makes you feel better, go ahead and insult me through the back door, by not beeing in the game in mentioned. This was my last post in this case.
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
December 30 2021 20:06 GMT
#786
On December 31 2021 03:18 Jealous wrote:
1. Seems perfectly defensible to not let people fuck around in your base, no matter the justification. Sure, it can be seen as a dick move, and in normal circumstances I wouldn't mind someone building a Pylon in my base to stay alive. But, I also don't think it is the same thing as team-killing and that users should have the option of saying "No thanks, I don't want you in my base." You're not entitled to building shit in someone else's base just to stay alive after you die.


No. It is stupid to team-kill and actually against the rules, It is not specified that "if a player builds a building in your base then team-killing is allowed". You are just looking for excuses to break the rules.

Sometimes you have very little time to build something in order not to get eliminated and of course it is safest in allies base. I often do this too, especially if I have a chance to actually rebuild somewhere and keep playing.

Using your logic I can say "this whole map is mine so i will team-kill my allies because they are building on my map and I don't like it". Or whatever other reason like "i dont like you, gtfo".
Be the change you want to see in the world.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
December 31 2021 08:41 GMT
#787
@Netto getting eliminated doesnt change anything for the MMR as i said it works in Team. If team wins he gets points even though hes not in the game.

What building in others bases do is disturbing your allies from actually winning the game for you who is already dead anyway.

Its perfectly ok to destroy stuff that hinders your building plan IN YOUR OWN BASE... Maybe i have a very clear infrastructure that works in my favor to win the game.

If we turn the argument around. Is it ok for you to build silly pylons allover my base?
-.-
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
December 31 2021 10:43 GMT
#788
Well I am talking about a situation when I can still rebuild my own base somewhere because I have workers + minerals and sometimes even army, I just have to build something in my ally base to not get eliminated beforehand. Such "almost dead" ally can still be useful if he manages to rebuild, or even just to waste enemies time & attention when they go after him.

On December 31 2021 17:41 MeSaber wrote:
Its perfectly ok to destroy stuff that hinders your building plan IN YOUR OWN BASE...


If u just eliminate your ally just for putting one building in your base, even though he could continue playing then it is team-killing. You break the rules, not the other way around.

On December 31 2021 17:41 MeSaber wrote:
If we turn the argument around. Is it ok for you to build silly pylons allover my base?


It is some weird kind of griefing which is not forbidden by the rules, but most likely would ruin every game. Personally I would just leave the game in such case and report such player here so maybe bot admin decides to ban him. Also I would dodge games with this player in the future (if he happens to be in my team ).

Keep in mind that such griefing is very different thing than simply putting one building in ally base in order to continue playing, and any decent player should recognize the difference between the two situations.


Be the change you want to see in the world.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
December 31 2021 11:40 GMT
#789
Well we most likely dont have all information as we havent gotten the replay from him. Maybe he had money to rebuild base but allies didnt know and thought he was dead already.

From my recollection ive had no issues with MotleyCrue, ive seen him dodging games but thats by bot/rule-design so cant blame him for trying to get a better team.
-.-
Qvark
Profile Joined October 2002
Sweden185 Posts
January 02 2022 13:46 GMT
#790
On December 31 2021 04:02 IAMTHEONEO wrote:
player stefan14 keeps leaving game which are still totally open, like you get attacked as Z and lose 1-2 sunk, he instant leaves... happened like 5 times so far, also when he was on opponent team... I know there isn't a rule really he breaks, still it sucks huge...


Yes, this guy is a real annoyance. Couldn't be happier if he was gone.
Davvve
Deleted User 556753
Profile Joined December 2020
126 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-02 14:23:47
January 02 2022 14:09 GMT
#791
On January 02 2022 22:46 Qvark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2021 04:02 IAMTHEONEO wrote:
player stefan14 keeps leaving game which are still totally open, like you get attacked as Z and lose 1-2 sunk, he instant leaves... happened like 5 times so far, also when he was on opponent team... I know there isn't a rule really he breaks, still it sucks huge...


Yes, this guy is a real annoyance. Couldn't be happier if he was gone.


just happened once again, I was on winning team this time, he quit after losing 1 or 2 cannons to muta attack, game went on for 20 more minutes or so and was really thin, if he just stays in we would have lossed pretty sure....

and there are lots of player meanwhole who just leave the game before start, when they end up in a team with him after balancing
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
January 02 2022 15:03 GMT
#792
Yeah, I leave whenever he is in the lobby too. I think he is one of the "20 min no rush pls" kind of person. Ruins almost every game.
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Deleted User 556753
Profile Joined December 2020
126 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-03 17:40:35
January 03 2022 17:27 GMT
#793
player "Anartha" team attacking and leaving for no reason, besides that, he talks the very same shit in about every game, have at least 5 replays he does the exact same as in this one.

I'm tired of having to leave any 2nd game right now, as the list of idiots you just can't play with grows every day. Hope you do something about that...


https://repmastered.app/game/XwjMFkyFQZJol754orBr5e-pyw2WWUhqdU4hjv8ENiw

and Mr. "Koronaking" who was mentioned here before several times also keeps leaving games for no reason again and a again within first minures. It's fucking annoying.
TOSSTERR
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1 Post
January 03 2022 17:41 GMT
#794
player stefan14 scv stack

https://imgur.com/a/wufvoV6

MNIACH
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
January 05 2022 00:13 GMT
#795
bghmmrbot_eu2_b needs a check up.

not starting it's games.
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D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland309 Posts
January 08 2022 23:18 GMT
#796
On December 30 2021 07:46 Rosis_Maus wrote:
Hello,

I have to report an allykill in this game:

3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-12-29 22:35

Minute 10:59: MotleyCrue killed my drones that I sent to his base.
Minute 13:15: After that he also killed my emergency pylon that I built in his base and my last drone.


As much as I agree that this behavior is shitty, I will not ban MotleyCrue because he denied his base to other player. In this case he did it out of spite, but in some cases players might decide not to allow other players into their bases in order to win, and I think they should have the right to do so.


On January 04 2022 02:27 IAMTHEONEO wrote:
player "Anartha" team attacking and leaving for no reason, besides that, he talks the very same shit in about every game, have at least 5 replays he does the exact same as in this one.

I'm tired of having to leave any 2nd game right now, as the list of idiots you just can't play with grows every day. Hope you do something about that...


https://repmastered.app/game/XwjMFkyFQZJol754orBr5e-pyw2WWUhqdU4hjv8ENiw

and Mr. "Koronaking" who was mentioned here before several times also keeps leaving games for no reason again and a again within first minures. It's fucking annoying.



He killed exactly one drone, when rush has already failed and then left. Let's not get too dramatic.
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Cheflestek
Profile Joined February 2021
4 Posts
January 10 2022 13:07 GMT
#797
Its time to ban B player KEKE^^ He just left 3 games in a row before 5 min cus bad poss and winning the game will be hard. I cant give you timestamps etc cus he left before 5 min making the game invalid
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2498 Posts
January 10 2022 16:18 GMT
#798
On January 10 2022 22:07 Cheflestek wrote:
Its time to ban B player KEKE^^ He just left 3 games in a row before 5 min cus bad poss and winning the game will be hard. I cant give you timestamps etc cus he left before 5 min making the game invalid


you can however post the replays
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Deleted User 556753
Profile Joined December 2020
126 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-11 00:04:57
January 10 2022 22:57 GMT
#799
On January 09 2022 08:18 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2021 07:46 Rosis_Maus wrote:
Hello,

I have to report an allykill in this game:

3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-12-29 22:35

Minute 10:59: MotleyCrue killed my drones that I sent to his base.
Minute 13:15: After that he also killed my emergency pylon that I built in his base and my last drone.


As much as I agree that this behavior is shitty, I will not ban MotleyCrue because he denied his base to other player. In this case he did it out of spite, but in some cases players might decide not to allow other players into their bases in order to win, and I think they should have the right to do so.


Show nested quote +
On January 04 2022 02:27 IAMTHEONEO wrote:
player "Anartha" team attacking and leaving for no reason, besides that, he talks the very same shit in about every game, have at least 5 replays he does the exact same as in this one.

I'm tired of having to leave any 2nd game right now, as the list of idiots you just can't play with grows every day. Hope you do something about that...



https://repmastered.app/game/XwjMFkyFQZJol754orBr5e-pyw2WWUhqdU4hjv8ENiw

and Mr. "Koronaking" who was mentioned here before several times also keeps leaving games for no reason again and a again within first minures. It's fucking annoying.



He killed exactly one drone, when rush has already failed and then left. Let's not get too dramatic.


it's not about killing the one drone, it's about his fucking trashtalk starting after 4 minutes for no reason and fucking up the game from there on for no reason, ending up in leaving 1 or 2 min later. Just behaving like someone shit into his goddamn brain, if he even has one. Can't you see this when you watch the replay? It's just 0 reason for his fucking talk, nor for leaving. He's just fucking up the game for no reason. And he's used to doing so. Lots of ppl leaving when they end up in team with him these days.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10229 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-11 01:58:19
January 11 2022 01:56 GMT
#800
On January 11 2022 07:57 IAMTHEONEO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2022 08:18 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
On December 30 2021 07:46 Rosis_Maus wrote:
Hello,

I have to report an allykill in this game:

3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-12-29 22:35

Minute 10:59: MotleyCrue killed my drones that I sent to his base.
Minute 13:15: After that he also killed my emergency pylon that I built in his base and my last drone.


As much as I agree that this behavior is shitty, I will not ban MotleyCrue because he denied his base to other player. In this case he did it out of spite, but in some cases players might decide not to allow other players into their bases in order to win, and I think they should have the right to do so.


On January 04 2022 02:27 IAMTHEONEO wrote:
player "Anartha" team attacking and leaving for no reason, besides that, he talks the very same shit in about every game, have at least 5 replays he does the exact same as in this one.

I'm tired of having to leave any 2nd game right now, as the list of idiots you just can't play with grows every day. Hope you do something about that...



https://repmastered.app/game/XwjMFkyFQZJol754orBr5e-pyw2WWUhqdU4hjv8ENiw

and Mr. "Koronaking" who was mentioned here before several times also keeps leaving games for no reason again and a again within first minures. It's fucking annoying.



He killed exactly one drone, when rush has already failed and then left. Let's not get too dramatic.


it's not about killing the one drone, it's about his fucking trashtalk starting after 4 minutes for no reason and fucking up the game from there on for no reason, ending up in leaving 1 or 2 min later. Just behaving like someone shit into his goddamn brain, if he even has one. Can't you see this when you watch the replay? It's just 0 reason for his fucking talk, nor for leaving. He's just fucking up the game for no reason. And he's used to doing so. Lots of ppl leaving when they end up in team with him these days.

You are always using this thread as a personal pulpit to complain about others' behavior when it doesn't break the rules (or, in the case of killing 1 Drone before leaving, inconsequentially so). When will you learn that your feelings don't matter and that whining here repeatedly achieves nothing if it's not against the rules? Reading your posts is tiring af. The creator watched the replays and made his determination, stop crying and wasting more of their time.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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