EPTI checked out Sovanis stream. I was very impressed by his calm behaviour and game sense. He constantly dodges matches though. I would like to see the d+ bot come back again so it would be less of match dodgeing. Personaly I dont mind playing with the F players which have 35 % winratio or above but some of the F players have like 25% winratio and even though I dont dodge those matches it is a little bit frustrating some times. I still love the bot!
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Tuggback
Sweden9 Posts
I checked out Sovanis stream. I was very impressed by his calm behaviour and game sense. He constantly dodges matches though. I would like to see the d+ bot come back again so it would be less of match dodgeing. Personaly I dont mind playing with the F players which have 35 % winratio or above but some of the F players have like 25% winratio and even though I dont dodge those matches it is a little bit frustrating some times. I still love the bot! | ||
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badbeatpete
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D3AD-R3TARD
Poland321 Posts
I've added races to Leader page. As for resetting I see two problems. Firstly as Liquid`Drone pointed out when you reset your stats you make other players play imbalanced games before you settle for an accurate score. Secondly, the main problem with seasonal resets is the quantity of matches. Let's say there are 1000 active players and you need about 10 matches to get to roughly correct MMR level. With 50 games a day that will take 200 days - more than half a year. That's why I'm not so hasty to throw away data that was gathered already. That's not to say that players who got better couldn't benefit from a fresh account in the existing system. With time the MMR updates get smaller and it's harder to make big leaps in score later on. But I think that problem needs to be addressed without discarding existing data. | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2368 Posts
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wslkgmlk
Australia38 Posts
Any news on if we can get a 2v2 ladder running on EU/NA as well? Might be able to provide some support if needed. | ||
Chosi
Germany1309 Posts
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Kazim1
28 Posts
On December 06 2020 18:45 Tuggback wrote: I checked out Sovanis stream. I was very impressed by his calm behaviour and game sense. He constantly dodges matches though. I would like to see the d+ bot come back again so it would be less of match dodgeing. link to his stream? | ||
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Tuggback
Sweden9 Posts
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Sobakevich
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benno1988
30 Posts
Though there are a few things that I would love to see in the future: - A diverse map pool - Allies spawning next to each other (its possible in UMS and your ladder does not depend on standard BNET stats, so it not much is lost here) - You die when the last building of your team is destroyed, instead of your last building. - You can send minerals and gas to allies (could be realized with beacons and invincible civilians in a corner of the map) | ||
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AmstAff
Germany949 Posts
 The games I tried to join were hosted either as "ranked" or "+20 wins" and I got booted/banned in both lobbies multiple times and after 30 minutes I gave up. If I can't join any of the lobbies, how am i supposed to meet the requirements? Am I missing something, is there another bot running for placements or soemthing at a different time? | ||
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Simberto
Germany11907 Posts
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AmstAff
Germany949 Posts
On December 20 2020 23:15 Simberto wrote: +20 wins means 20 wins in any kind of custom game. Ah okay, thank you. Well then I will have to play some more games first ;( | ||
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badbeatpete
25 Posts
Another thing I've noticed is that players win/lose a normal amount of points for an unbalanced game. Shouldn't the points be adjusted for each team based on how unbalanced the game is? Doing this would also lead to less dodging as it there is greater incentive for the unfavored team to play. | ||
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my ally is good
10 Posts
For example: Game at 2020-12-20 21:37 Copmuter TigerJ. miniminiminimin - lost game my_ally_is_good VladoK vadym219 - won game But bot gave victory to another team. | ||
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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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Jealous
10339 Posts
On December 21 2020 11:48 LuMiX wrote: is there anyway to do this w/ a set team? Ya but there is a trick to it, what you have to do is to add both of your teammates to your friend list. IMPORTANT: Make sure they have you added too. Then you go to the "Create" button on the left, then you type "3v3 BGH" into the lobby name section, then you click "Host" or whatever and then they will get notified that you made a 3v3 BGH game, and then they can go to their friend list and join your game. Gg you're welcome. | ||
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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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D3AD-R3TARD
Poland321 Posts
On December 13 2020 22:16 benno1988 wrote: Thank you for the great 3v3 ladder! I enjoy it a lot! It was always the thing that I missed most in BW (compared to WC3 and SC2). Though there are a few things that I would love to see in the future: - A diverse map pool - Allies spawning next to each other (its possible in UMS and your ladder does not depend on standard BNET stats, so it not much is lost here) - You die when the last building of your team is destroyed, instead of your last building. - You can send minerals and gas to allies (could be realized with beacons and invincible civilians in a corner of the map) Thanks. As for changes in the original game: I also wanted to make some changes but reaction from the community was quite clear. People want canonical BGH with no changes. One thing that might be good and accepted is letting dead players observe. This can be done by making some immortal item in the game with no changes to the actual gameplay. I believe most people would want this, but I don't know how will they react to UMS? It was some many years ago when I was playing with UMS maps but from what I remember it was quite powerful (Turing complete?). I would be happy to make a map that would also register things as first blood, produced units and so on. Right now this information is not available in replay alone. That could be very useful at estimating MMR. On December 20 2020 23:13 AmstAff wrote: I dont understand the ladder The games I tried to join were hosted either as "ranked" or "+20 wins" and I got booted/banned in both lobbies multiple times and after 30 minutes I gave up. If I can't join any of the lobbies, how am i supposed to meet the requirements? Am I missing something, is there another bot running for placements or soemthing at a different time? Every time the bot banns somebody it whispers the reason for the ban. In case of not enough custom games the message is: You have to win at least 20 custom games to play balanced games. It can be easy to miss as you imminently leave the lobby, but that's the reason. On December 21 2020 01:24 badbeatpete wrote: There seems to be a significant number of players who have bottomed out their mmr. Would you consider adjusting the mmr scale to account for all the 1 mmr players? Maybe even allow negative mmrs? Once players reach 1 mmr, their skill level can't really be estimated anymore. Another thing I've noticed is that players win/lose a normal amount of points for an unbalanced game. Shouldn't the points be adjusted for each team based on how unbalanced the game is? Doing this would also lead to less dodging as it there is greater incentive for the unfavored team to play. There are about 25 people with minimal MMR. That's less than 3% of more than 1000 monthly players. I guess at this level their presence doesn't bring anything to the team. Negative MMR would make sense if someone was actively harassing/attacking teammates and those people are banned, so I guess there is no need for this. As for weighting games based on MMR difference, you are of course right. That should work, and I've implemented it to work, but somewhere in process I've made a bug that didn't calculate the difference correctly and all matches were weighted as perfectly balanced. Thanks for pointing this out, it is already fixed. On December 21 2020 06:42 my ally is good wrote: There is some bug with giving victory/loss. For example: Game at 2020-12-20 21:37 Copmuter TigerJ. miniminiminimin - lost game my_ally_is_good VladoK vadym219 - won game But bot gave victory to another team. Yes, Indeed. I'll look into it and correct the score, as soon as I have some spare time. Thanks for pointing this. Win/loss mistakes are relatively rare, but they still happen so this requires more work. On December 21 2020 11:48 LuMiX wrote: is there anyway to do this w/ a set team? Once you set up the team there is no need or way for balancing so the bot is unnecessary. As Jealous pointed out, just create your own game. EDIT my_ally_is_good: game result was corrected. | ||
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Grouhh
57 Posts
By that I mean colors that are either invisible on the minimap (black, grey, navy) or undistinguishable from each other, like all those damn tones of white. Is there any way to do that, whether in melee or UMS ? | ||
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