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SCWes
Profile Joined May 2018
Canada74 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-09 00:36:05
March 08 2019 04:33 GMT
#1
It's up.


(2) Cross Game 1.07
(2) Overwatch 2.2
(3) Medusa 2.2
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
(4) Circuit breakers 1.0
(4) In the way of an Eddy 1.06
(4) Colosseum 2.0

Preliminaries will be:

Game 1 - (4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
Game 2 - (4) Circuit breakers 1.0
Game 3 - (3) Medusa 2.2

So, basically this season's ladder maps except (4) Ground Zero 2, was swapped out for (4) In the way of an Eddy 1.06. Can't say I am too happy about Colosseum or Cross Game.

Edit, initially forgot to include (2) Overwatch 2.2.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-08 04:42:13
March 08 2019 04:39 GMT
#2
blizzard still afraid of letting go of FS and CB.

but I guess its a symptom of forcing yourself to have a large tournament map pool.
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hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
March 08 2019 04:39 GMT
#3
Ewwww, Colosseum. Otherwise seems fine. Kinda nice having a individual league with all normal-ish map pool at least
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
March 08 2019 04:51 GMT
#4
PLEASE KILL FS AND CB OMG
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51596 Posts
March 08 2019 04:58 GMT
#5
On March 08 2019 13:51 konadora wrote:
PLEASE KILL FS AND CB OMG


korea is going to reunify before FS and CB are killed off
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Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
March 08 2019 05:42 GMT
#6
i wish cross game would get an update so my units dont stop before the rally point.
(zerg bottom left, rally main hatch to right side of natural hatch [like 4-5 hex to the right of it], some units from main now stop inbetween the rally point and the ramp to the main.... they are about half a screen short of the rally point...)
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-08 05:46:04
March 08 2019 05:45 GMT
#7
love to see that f.s c.b is back again it actually is a lovely change from the awkward misbalanced asl maps we have seen (sparkle / third world etc)
RWLabs
Profile Joined March 2017
Korea (South)273 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-08 06:27:55
March 08 2019 06:12 GMT
#8
On March 08 2019 14:45 onlystar wrote:
love to see that f.s c.b is back again it actually is a lovely change from the awkward misbalanced asl maps we have seen (sparkle / third world etc)

Ah yes, the 59.6% Terran winrate Circuit Breaker and 57.8% Terran winrate Fighting Spirit. Even ELO-wise their worst match-up in both of these maps is a 54.5% advantage against Zergs on CS. CS and FS used to be balanced in 2012 or so, but today they're ridiculous Terran maps. I think it's telling the moment these maps disappeared from ASL, Terrans mysteriously began to underperform. Despite the popular narrative, 3rd World and Sparkle are only really bad for Zerg.

I say bring in the new.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19348 Posts
March 08 2019 13:02 GMT
#9
On March 08 2019 14:45 onlystar wrote:
love to see that f.s c.b is back again it actually is a lovely change from the awkward misbalanced asl maps we have seen (sparkle / third world etc)

I gotta agree. I am happy to see FS make an appearance. I am really curious what the state of the meta will look like on FS since so many strategies have changed because of the awkward maps.
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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1171 Posts
March 08 2019 13:27 GMT
#10
On March 08 2019 22:02 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 14:45 onlystar wrote:
love to see that f.s c.b is back again it actually is a lovely change from the awkward misbalanced asl maps we have seen (sparkle / third world etc)

I gotta agree. I am happy to see FS make an appearance. I am really curious what the state of the meta will look like on FS since so many strategies have changed because of the awkward maps.

it's the same ol'

nothing special to watch for... :/
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onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
March 08 2019 13:54 GMT
#11
On March 08 2019 15:12 RWLabs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 14:45 onlystar wrote:
love to see that f.s c.b is back again it actually is a lovely change from the awkward misbalanced asl maps we have seen (sparkle / third world etc)

Ah yes, the 59.6% Terran winrate Circuit Breaker and 57.8% Terran winrate Fighting Spirit. Even ELO-wise their worst match-up in both of these maps is a 54.5% advantage against Zergs on CS. CS and FS used to be balanced in 2012 or so, but today they're ridiculous Terran maps. I think it's telling the moment these maps disappeared from ASL, Terrans mysteriously began to underperform. Despite the popular narrative, 3rd World and Sparkle are only really bad for Zerg.

I say bring in the new.


Just by saying third world are really bad for Zerg and not for Terran tvp I can’t take your post serious at all + you are cherry picking statistics from cb/fs show where what your stats pulled?
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 08 2019 14:02 GMT
#12
On the other hand, it's quite dull seeing FS and CB all the time but then again some of the ASL maps have been pretty bad so at least the level of play should be consistent
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10036 Posts
March 08 2019 14:32 GMT
#13
aw no overwatch :[
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-08 14:42:01
March 08 2019 14:41 GMT
#14
On March 08 2019 13:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
blizzard still afraid of letting go of FS and CB.

but I guess its a symptom of forcing yourself to have a large tournament map pool.
they promised they'd never get rid of cs and cb either for ladder for tourny play. its the community thats afraid to give these maps up, blizzards just giving you what you want. The. Same. Maps. For. Another. Year.


edit: i like that medusa is in play.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-08 14:52:35
March 08 2019 14:52 GMT
#15
I understand for ladder, but i don't recall them saying anything for tourney play.

afreeca hasn't used FS since ASL4 and CB was only used in ASL6 after not being in use for 2 seasons, they're really trying to not use them.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8170 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-08 15:04:05
March 08 2019 14:55 GMT
#16
Would have liked to see a new map besides Eddy. It's an OK map but sorta boring. It'd be fine if there weren't 3 other very standard 4 player maps in the pool.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50963 Posts
March 08 2019 14:56 GMT
#17
On March 08 2019 23:55 Ideas wrote:
Would have liked to see a new map besides Eddy. It's an OK map but sorta boring.


Cross Game is new.
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
March 08 2019 15:03 GMT
#18
On March 08 2019 23:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I understand for ladder, but i don't recall them saying anything for tourney play.

afreeca hasn't used FS since ASL4 and CB was only used in ASL6 after not being in use for 2 seasons, they're really trying to not use them.
They didnt say it but they dont have to say it, they've already been doing it, and its clearly their intention. Afreeca is trying to break the FS/CB obsession but KSL is blizzard, and blizzard has made it clear that they will and have embraced it.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8170 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-08 15:13:41
March 08 2019 15:11 GMT
#19
On March 08 2019 23:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 23:55 Ideas wrote:
Would have liked to see a new map besides Eddy. It's an OK map but sorta boring.


Cross Game is new.


Yeah that's true, I guess I just want more than 1 actually new map if the map pool is going to have SIX maps haha.

I appreciate that KSL is trying to differentiate itself from the ASL by using more standard maps and having Bo5s in the group stages and whatnot, and I suppose the standard maps are there to make playing so many BoXs a little easier to prepare for. Honestly assuming they definitely want to keep FS/CB, I'd be happy if they replaced Eddy or Colosseum with 1 more new map or at least another older 2/3 player map.
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SC_ar
Profile Joined July 2018
United States35 Posts
March 08 2019 16:03 GMT
#20
I'm happy that Blizzard is keeping with the format of using ladder maps in this tourney. It's really helping me learn maps and points of attack as a noob. Maybe now I can finally learn what to actually do on Medusa lol.
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