EPTOn October 05 2018 06:23 Moataz wrote:
Just a few games on ICCUP.
Just a few games on ICCUP.
So i assume you never bought the original
Things I can do with free scr, but not with 1.16 ? - Page 3
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Tappo
101 Posts
So i assume you never bought the original | ||
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Moataz
Egypt267 Posts
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xehcechbsky
9 Posts
Also while BWAPI doesn't work, a lot of the data structures used are still the same. Let me know if you need some pointers (heh) to get started with SCR development. | ||
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Moataz
Egypt267 Posts
On October 05 2018 06:43 xehcechbsky wrote: FWIW I think they changed the replay compression to dodge pkzip license costs rather than to intentionally fuck someone over. Also while BWAPI doesn't work, a lot of the data structures used are still the same. Let me know if you need some pointers (heh) to get started with SCR development. That what you think ? Why not using .7z (its free) format I think there are more compression algorithms that doesn't cost. What you know about BWAPI, have you done anything notable? | ||
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Tappo
101 Posts
On October 05 2018 06:38 Moataz wrote: No. Keep on going with complaining about how your pirated/free version is just not worth upgrading. God damn those greedy blizzardACTIVISION guys! Just look at EA, they just released the X remastered version of their game for only 60-100 bucks. This thread is insane. its about 5-10 (insert your currency) | ||
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xehcechbsky
9 Posts
This stuff here is still the same in SCR: CUnit.h BWGame.h As well as most other things. I think if you bypass BWAPI and read the data directly, you'll find everything you need for CoachAI in SCR. | ||
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Moataz
Egypt267 Posts
On October 05 2018 07:29 xehcechbsky wrote: SCR is using free zlib now. So really, it's 1.16's fault for expecting a proprietary format. This stuff here is still the same in SCR: CUnit.h BWGame.h As well as most other things. I think if you bypass BWAPI and read the data directly, you'll find everything you need for CoachAI in SCR. Man the question is can we inject an executable (.dll, .exe, .jar) into starcraft.exe (v1.22) ? does the current SC launcher allow that, will Blizzard allow that ? You know what I'm sorry about is the efforts that BWAPI AI developers @SSCAIT did, to make the game easily practicable/automated, but most of the light is for scr. | ||
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Lazare1969
United States318 Posts
On October 05 2018 07:21 Tappo wrote: Keep on going with complaining about how your pirated/free version is just not worth upgrading. God damn those greedy blizzardACTIVISION guys! Just look at EA, they just released the X remastered version of their game for only 60-100 bucks. This thread is insane. its about 5-10 (insert your currency) Activision Blizzard, Inc. (ATVI) chose the $15 USD price tag for this product not from the kindness of their hearts, but after much deliberation with their team of analysts and advisors over how much profit they can maximize primarily from their largest customer base in Korea. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On October 04 2018 21:21 LG)Sabbath wrote: The price is adjusted by location, for example here in Argentina it's about $3.75. It's funny that people still complain about the price even though it's literally less than the cost of a pizza. I'm not complaining about the price, just stating that the cost is not as low as it appears to be for people like me (since Moataz is from Egypt), and we need to think more before spending USD10, because it costs more for us. I don't know about regional pricing, I was just addressing Cheesefome's comment on the price. Anyway I just checked and it appears to cost USD14.99 for me, so I didn't know that. Additionally, I don't know how much you spend on food in Argentina but USD10 could feed me for 2 days (6 good meals) if I eat out. If I am short on cash I could make it last for another day without starving. If i get to prepare every meal at home it'll last even longer. For people who are less fortunate than me in my country, it might even feed them for 7 to 10 days. Blizzard can charge whatever they want, I believe USD10 to 15 is a fair price anyway. I just wrote this because some people don't know how much USD10 affords people in certain countries, because there's no way i'd spend USD15 on an upgrade to a game I already have without thinking about it first. | ||
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Cheesefome
314 Posts
On October 05 2018 16:28 JieXian wrote: I'm not complaining about the price, just stating that the cost is not as low as it appears to be for people like me (since Moataz is from Egypt), and we need to think more before spending USD10, because it costs more for us. I don't know about regional pricing, I was just addressing Cheesefome's comment on the price. Anyway I just checked and it appears to cost USD14.99 for me, so I didn't know that. Additionally, I don't know how much you spend on food in Argentina but USD10 could feed me for 2 days (6 good meals) if I eat out. If I am short on cash I could make it last for another day without starving. If i get to prepare every meal at home it'll last even longer. For people who are less fortunate than me in my country, it might even feed them for 7 to 10 days. Blizzard can charge whatever they want, I believe USD10 to 15 is a fair price anyway. I just wrote this because some people don't know how much USD10 affords people in certain countries, because there's no way i'd spend USD15 on an upgrade to a game I already have without thinking about it first. And yet you probably own a 500USD+ smartphone and a computer, go to starbucks pay for a 5 dollar coffee//coke. If we compare that price to any other pay to play game on the market, 15USD that is pocket change. Games now go for what? over 40 bucks now which is arguably worst than Starcraft and will most likely only last you a few weeks at best before you're completely bored of it. People's priorities are upside down. 15 bucks can buy just about anybody 2-3 days worth of food. I don't get why you bring this up. It's a matter of investing in something that could potentially become your side hobby. How much you enjoy something determines whether or not money is worst investing. I'm not rich by any means, in fact I barely get by day to day but i can most certainly cut edges by eating less per day to put money aside and invest on something that i know will bring me a lot of fun. You could starve the body for up to 1-3 months, 3 days isn't going to hurt you or anybody. Not saying you should just saying it isn't as expensive//exaggerated as you make it seem. It comes down to how bad you want something. | ||
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PorkSoda
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
There are some cool features like being able to forward reps etc.. however, that depends on whether you think that's worth it. If you are someone who wants the newer gfx, or the MM, some of the newer features etc... then RM might be worth the price. Just keep in mind that RM still has bugs, and isn't perfect atm but that's a given. | ||
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Moataz
Egypt267 Posts
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Navane
Netherlands2749 Posts
On October 04 2018 04:20 Moataz wrote: ... Paid SCR players have worse classic graphics than those who have sc1.16, and CAN'T run classic graphics in fullscreen. I have paid SCR and run classic graphics fullscreen. What that battlenet post is talking about, is classic graphics widescreen. And that would be silly; classic graphics widescreen? That's not classic. Nobody wants that. Either they want highres+widescreen, or lores+4:3. | ||
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Moataz
Egypt267 Posts
On October 06 2018 19:48 Navane wrote: I have paid SCR and run classic graphics fullscreen. What that battlenet post is talking about, is classic graphics widescreen. And that would be silly; classic graphics widescreen? That's not classic. Nobody wants that. Either they want highres+widescreen, or lores+4:3. FYI, my laptop is just 15.7", wide screen doesn't mean very big monitors, more people still confused by this term, but unfortunately, Blizzard doesn't say it directly. SC1.22 free was running with a black wide border on right/left (If you didn't read my post about that). | ||
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Moataz
Egypt267 Posts
On October 06 2018 19:48 Navane wrote: I have paid SCR and run classic graphics fullscreen. What that battlenet post is talking about, is classic graphics widescreen. And that would be silly; classic graphics widescreen? That's not classic. Nobody wants that. Either they want highres+widescreen, or lores+4:3. And you're saying "Nobody wants that", while you're quoting the same Battle.net topic that 3 guys say that !!!, I'm surprised how Blizzard deluded some people to think that only the things THEY offer are the best !!! | ||
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[AS]Rattus
427 Posts
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
On October 06 2018 19:48 Navane wrote: I have paid SCR and run classic graphics fullscreen. What that battlenet post is talking about, is classic graphics widescreen. And that would be silly; classic graphics widescreen? That's not classic. Nobody wants that. Either they want highres+widescreen, or lores+4:3. You are very wrong about this. Many people want classic gfx+widescreen, including me. They could even make it a SCR paid version only feature. As it stands now, plyers playing with classic gfx have a disadvatage compared to others because they see less on screen and have to scroll more. Also @Moataz: Sorry to burst your bubble, but most of the things in your Coach AI are just clutter on the screen. You did some nice work to implement a lot of things, and I applaud you for that, but you have no idea about what is really needed and what's not needed. You threw in everything, including the kitchen sink, so please don't talk about SCR devs. + Show Spoiler + For example, SCR had the unit production tab, but they removed it on request by many players and casters. They also can't add too many things without making the game too different from the classic. And they certainly can't add walls of text on the screen like you did, because that's a terrible idea for a professional game, but it can be ok for a 3rd party tool if limited to a reasonable amount. You got too carried away by programming and possibilities, but didn't think about it from a design and clear goal perspective. Sometimes less is more. Yes, I agree, they could have added some easy to implement features, but they are understaffed and working in a big, slow company. It's easy for you, just one guy in a vacuum, to do whatever you want, whenever you want, but that is not the case for them. Don't be so damn cocky. | ||
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Highgamer
1444 Posts
Then I actually compared the nu classic to the old one and was shocked how much more pixeled they were. You see everything you need but wtf... Neither did I think about the advantage that people playing in widescreen have, I considered it marginal but if it only helps in a couple of situations... I guess I would give classic widescreen a try... | ||
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fazek42
Hungary438 Posts
How is this a mistake dude? You can zoom out in replays and when using the new obs mode, as well as in single player. I'm using the classic view (SD), which should be available in the free version. What's going on? | ||
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