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On October 07 2018 18:11 Highgamer wrote:
Played with classic graphics and black bars for a long time now and thought I didn't even have anything to complain about.
Then I actually compared the nu classic to the old one and was shocked how much more pixeled they were. You see everything you need but wtf...
Neither did I think about the advantage that people playing in widescreen have, I considered it marginal but if it only helps in a couple of situations...
I guess I would give classic widescreen a try...
i cant talk from a new player perspective but i prefer playing 4:3 my mouse and screen ctrl speed is better compared to widescreen.
Moastaz you made the wrong question with this thread.
what do u mean to ask is what plugings are available for scr compared to bw 1.16.
cuz if you compare original vs original there is no color.
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On October 07 2018 19:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2018 18:11 Highgamer wrote:
Played with classic graphics and black bars for a long time now and thought I didn't even have anything to complain about.
Then I actually compared the nu classic to the old one and was shocked how much more pixeled they were. You see everything you need but wtf...
Neither did I think about the advantage that people playing in widescreen have, I considered it marginal but if it only helps in a couple of situations...
I guess I would give classic widescreen a try... i cant talk from a new player perspective but i prefer playing 4:3 my mouse and screen ctrl speed is better compared to widescreen.
I wouldn't be surprised if anyone who played in 4:3 for 10 or more years (I did for 7-8 years now) felt weird switching, weird for a long time.. but having a bigger field of view is definitelly an advantage... with the right mouse-setting there shouldn't be any big difference after a few hundred games or so...
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On October 07 2018 17:18 quirinus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2018 19:48 Navane wrote:I have paid SCR and run classic graphics fullscreen. What that battlenet post is talking about, is classic graphics widescreen. And that would be silly; classic graphics widescreen? That's not classic. Nobody wants that. Either they want highres+widescreen, or lores+4:3. You are very wrong about this. Many people want classic gfx+widescreen, including me. They could even make it a SCR paid version only feature. As it stands now, plyers playing with classic gfx have a disadvatage compared to others because they see less on screen and have to scroll more. Also @Moataz: Sorry to burst your bubble, but most of the things in your Coach AI are just clutter on the screen. You did some nice work to implement a lot of things, and I applaud you for that, but you have no idea about what is really needed and what's not needed. You threw in everything, including the kitchen sink, so please don't talk about SCR devs. + Show Spoiler +For example, SCR had the unit production tab, but they removed it on request by many players and casters. They also can't add too many things without making the game too different from the classic. And they certainly can't add walls of text on the screen like you did, because that's a terrible idea for a professional game, but it can be ok for a 3rd party tool if limited to a reasonable amount. You got too carried away by programming and possibilities, but didn't think about it from a design and clear goal perspective. Sometimes less is more. Yes, I agree, they could have added some easy to implement features, but they are understaffed and working in a big, slow company. It's easy for you, just one guy in a vacuum, to do whatever you want, whenever you want, but that is not the case for them. Don't be so damn cocky.
Thanks for reviewing the CoachAI from your POV, but it has features on game-mode & replay-mode, I guess you only tried it on game-mode, well no human coach will make you better if you're not determined to reach a certain goal (The CoachAI only give some tips & inspire you to break some records to reach these goals and the rest on u), but if you compared the replay-mode to scr one, for me the latter is the eternal darkness (which is 1st reason I couldn't live with scr, the 2nd is the fullscreen)
What I think Blizzard is intending by hiding vital game infos is to excite your mind to guess more, to spend more time with the game that can be less (like hiding the prod-panel from observer-mode, that ok for people watching Tastosis casting ASL, it makes it looks like a thriller/mystery movie), but for me the player I want to learn/sense/remember things as fast/easy as possible.
I'm not feeling ashamed of promoting or talking about my own work, especially if I can't see any alternatives, I hope this is not cockiness.
On October 07 2018 18:13 fazek42 wrote:
"fazek42 told me by mistake that I can "Zoom out in replay/obs and also the game" in the free scr"
How is this a mistake dude? You can zoom out in replays and when using the new obs mode, as well as in single player. I'm using the classic view (SD), which should be available in the free version. What's going on?
I tried sc1.22 (free), isn't it the mouse wheel that should do that ?, didn't work for me for replay or game.
Correct me if I'm wrong, otherwise, have a nice day  .
On October 07 2018 19:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2018 18:11 Highgamer wrote:
Played with classic graphics and black bars for a long time now and thought I didn't even have anything to complain about.
Then I actually compared the nu classic to the old one and was shocked how much more pixeled they were. You see everything you need but wtf...
Neither did I think about the advantage that people playing in widescreen have, I considered it marginal but if it only helps in a couple of situations...
I guess I would give classic widescreen a try... i cant talk from a new player perspective but i prefer playing 4:3 my mouse and screen ctrl speed is better compared to widescreen. Moastaz you made the wrong question with this thread. what do u mean to ask is what plugings are available for scr compared to bw 1.16. cuz if you compare original vs original there is no color.
I'm not sure why everybody calling it widescreen, it's fullscreen or fill screen  , with black borders I feel I'm missing something, although I might move my mouse less.
I was evaluating all things that SCR has and can't be gained by any other mean, I wasn't planning to refuse SCR, I was actually encouraged.
And please no more hate because I didn't like SCR, as I told someone in PM:
I'm not saying SCR doesn't worth the money, I'm saying it just neglected additional possibilities, that would make it everyone's dream, you can buy a shirt but it doesn't fit on someone else or he mightn't like it, doesn't mean your shirt is bad.
Have a nice day , sir (that's to cure the cockiness quirinus was taking about).
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On October 06 2018 12:12 BigFan wrote:
Some of you guys are being extremely silly with the price of the game. Everyone has their own expenses, and for some folks, $10-15 goes a long way into making sure they can still live their life comfortably enough considering the low wages in some places. As it stands, what's most important is determining whether the game is worth the price or not. If you still have friends that use 1.16.1 and don't plan to play RM or you don't care for the MM/gfx, then RM isn't worth it.
There are some cool features like being able to forward reps etc.. however, that depends on whether you think that's worth it. If you are someone who wants the newer gfx, or the MM, some of the newer features etc... then RM might be worth the price. Just keep in mind that RM still has bugs, and isn't perfect atm but that's a given.
You need a somewhat up to date computer to run SCR, so the price argument is a bit moot, if you have a new computer you can afford $10, and if you can't afford a $10 game you are probably not in the target market for this anyway, just play 1.16.
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On October 08 2018 14:04 Moataz wrote:I'm not sure why everybody calling it widescreen, it's fullscreen or fill screen , with black borders I feel I'm missing something, although I might move my mouse less.
because they are being accurate with their language. 1.16 and 1.22 can both do fullscreen (as opposed to windowed mode) while only 1.22 can do widescreen (but only with HD graphics). If you are running 1.16 with no black bars on the side on a widescreen monitor, it's because you have a fucked up aspect ratio. You are looking at non-wdescreen content stretched to fill a widescreen. It doesn't make you move your mouse more or less; you see the same amount of the map left to right. Just that if there are no black bars, everything is displayed "fatter". The only way to get widescreen where you actually see more left to right is in 1.22 with HD graphics on.
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Does free remastered actually exist? If so can anyone provide a link to download for pc/Mac? I’ve looked on blizzards website and can’t find it.
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On October 10 2018 10:22 MamiyaOtaru wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2018 14:04 Moataz wrote:I'm not sure why everybody calling it widescreen, it's fullscreen or fill screen , with black borders I feel I'm missing something, although I might move my mouse less. because they are being accurate with their language. 1.16 and 1.22 can both do fullscreen (as opposed to windowed mode) while only 1.22 can do widescreen (but only with HD graphics). If you are running 1.16 with no black bars on the side on a widescreen monitor, it's because you have a fucked up aspect ratio. You are looking at non-wdescreen content stretched to fill a widescreen. It doesn't make you move your mouse more or less; you see the same amount of the map left to right. Just that if there are no black bars, everything is displayed "fatter". The only way to get widescreen where you actually see more left to right is in 1.22 with HD graphics on.
There is actually a shitty widescreen hack for 1.16 that he is probably using.
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On October 10 2018 10:38 ZeroChrome wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2018 10:22 MamiyaOtaru wrote:On October 08 2018 14:04 Moataz wrote:I'm not sure why everybody calling it widescreen, it's fullscreen or fill screen , with black borders I feel I'm missing something, although I might move my mouse less. because they are being accurate with their language. 1.16 and 1.22 can both do fullscreen (as opposed to windowed mode) while only 1.22 can do widescreen (but only with HD graphics). If you are running 1.16 with no black bars on the side on a widescreen monitor, it's because you have a fucked up aspect ratio. You are looking at non-wdescreen content stretched to fill a widescreen. It doesn't make you move your mouse more or less; you see the same amount of the map left to right. Just that if there are no black bars, everything is displayed "fatter". The only way to get widescreen where you actually see more left to right is in 1.22 with HD graphics on. There is actually a shitty widescreen hack for 1.16 that he is probably using.
What ?
Anyway, it's a VGA setting, not hack, the most game I remember that I wanted it to run in fullscreen was Doom3 which was running with black wide border left/right.
Watch this video for how to if you've VGA is Intel, very similar settings for AMD & nvidia, I remember doing this for all the 3 VGA companies without a problem.
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On October 10 2018 11:26 Moataz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2018 10:38 ZeroChrome wrote:On October 10 2018 10:22 MamiyaOtaru wrote:On October 08 2018 14:04 Moataz wrote:I'm not sure why everybody calling it widescreen, it's fullscreen or fill screen , with black borders I feel I'm missing something, although I might move my mouse less. because they are being accurate with their language. 1.16 and 1.22 can both do fullscreen (as opposed to windowed mode) while only 1.22 can do widescreen (but only with HD graphics). If you are running 1.16 with no black bars on the side on a widescreen monitor, it's because you have a fucked up aspect ratio. You are looking at non-wdescreen content stretched to fill a widescreen. It doesn't make you move your mouse more or less; you see the same amount of the map left to right. Just that if there are no black bars, everything is displayed "fatter". The only way to get widescreen where you actually see more left to right is in 1.22 with HD graphics on. There is actually a shitty widescreen hack for 1.16 that he is probably using. What ? Anyway, it's a VGA setting, not hack, the most game I remember that I wanted it to run in fullscreen was Doom3 which was running with black wide border left/right. Watch this video for how to if you've VGA is Intel, very similar settings for AMD & nvidia, I remember doing this for all the 3 VGA companies without a problem.
As the guy I quoted explained, that isn't "widescreen" ie 16: 9 aspect ratio, its just stretching the 4:3 image wider. You can't do that with free SCR since the black bars are being accounted for to maintain the aspect ratio.
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On October 10 2018 15:50 ZeroChrome wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2018 11:26 Moataz wrote:On October 10 2018 10:38 ZeroChrome wrote:On October 10 2018 10:22 MamiyaOtaru wrote:On October 08 2018 14:04 Moataz wrote:I'm not sure why everybody calling it widescreen, it's fullscreen or fill screen , with black borders I feel I'm missing something, although I might move my mouse less. because they are being accurate with their language. 1.16 and 1.22 can both do fullscreen (as opposed to windowed mode) while only 1.22 can do widescreen (but only with HD graphics). If you are running 1.16 with no black bars on the side on a widescreen monitor, it's because you have a fucked up aspect ratio. You are looking at non-wdescreen content stretched to fill a widescreen. It doesn't make you move your mouse more or less; you see the same amount of the map left to right. Just that if there are no black bars, everything is displayed "fatter". The only way to get widescreen where you actually see more left to right is in 1.22 with HD graphics on. There is actually a shitty widescreen hack for 1.16 that he is probably using. What ? Anyway, it's a VGA setting, not hack, the most game I remember that I wanted it to run in fullscreen was Doom3 which was running with black wide border left/right. Watch this video for how to if you've VGA is Intel, very similar settings for AMD & nvidia, I remember doing this for all the 3 VGA companies without a problem. As the guy I quoted explained, that isn't "widescreen" ie 16: 9 aspect ratio, its just stretching the 4:3 image wider. You can't do that with free SCR since the black bars are being accounted for to maintain the aspect ratio.
And this is something I don't know? anyway, I'm sorry for trying to help.
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Cant believe some people are complaining about 8GB and 10 dollars for a game they love. Fucking cheapskates!
User was warned for this post.
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According to the OP there are only downsides of SC:R and he has never tried it in real.
I was screaming like a toddler in Disney land when I saw the first screens in HD StarCraft.
If such emotion doesn't worth a thing and your favorite game doesn't worth a dime to you, then I'll agree.
If you are looking for 101 reasons not to buy this game go ahead and +1 the thread creator but I will -1 this thread as a whole.
P.S. there are tons of features that you neglect, there is also a lot of room for improvement but the current status is way ahead of the old SCBW state we all know very well.
Just will type the first things that come to my mind:
- change your hotkeys - I'm playing sc since like day 1 and this is a feature that I appreciate, nevermind that I'm used to the original hotkeys.
- HD ... - yes its high definition and also you can zoom out and see how the battles happen from wider angle
- fast forward a replay - don't need to wait another 40 minutes to show the perfect moment to another player
- fast backward a replay - ...... same
- improved latency and overall battle net experience - lately I've been playing with people from any corner of the earth with down to none latency. There are issues of course, but FFS there are places on earth with really bad internet...
- being able to hold 3 nicks with your account - you can smurf and nobody will know or you can smurf and your friends will be able still to find you - it's up to personal preference but I like to have another acc for 3v3s and 4v4 and be easily approachable by my friends who can join the fun in easier manner
- improved stats screen - you now have a lot more information in your account - not just rank/stats/description
- in replay or when observing - see on the minimap where the players are watching - this can provide valuable intel how different players react in different situations
- in replay - production tab - really cool and neat
- in replay or observer - see both players resources and APM
- in game APM + timer
- added observer mode - you can host a 1v1 and have up to 10 (TEN) observers
- latest replays of games you have played are saved to the cloud and available from wherever you login in StarCraft
And much much more.
And this thread asks what is different in the game, not what is different than a given 3rd party tool.
namaste
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On October 11 2018 20:39 BlueStar wrote:
According to the OP there are only downsides of SC:R and he has never tried it in real.
I was screaming like a toddler in Disney land when I saw the first screens in HD StarCraft.
If such emotion doesn't worth a thing and your favorite game doesn't worth a dime to you, then I'll agree.
If you are looking for 101 reasons not to buy this game go ahead and +1 the thread creator but I will -1 this thread as a whole.
P.S. there are tons of features that you neglect, there is also a lot of room for improvement but the current status is way ahead of the old SCBW state we all know very well.
Just will type the first things that come to my mind:
- change your hotkeys - I'm playing sc since like day 1 and this is a feature that I appreciate, nevermind that I'm used to the original hotkeys.
- HD ... - yes its high definition and also you can zoom out and see how the battles happen from wider angle
- fast forward a replay - don't need to wait another 40 minutes to show the perfect moment to another player
- fast backward a replay - ...... same
- improved latency and overall battle net experience - lately I've been playing with people from any corner of the earth with down to none latency. There are issues of course, but FFS there are places on earth with really bad internet...
- being able to hold 3 nicks with your account - you can smurf and nobody will know or you can smurf and your friends will be able still to find you - it's up to personal preference but I like to have another acc for 3v3s and 4v4 and be easily approachable by my friends who can join the fun in easier manner
- improved stats screen - you now have a lot more information in your account - not just rank/stats/description
- in replay or when observing - see on the minimap where the players are watching - this can provide valuable intel how different players react in different situations
- in replay - production tab - really cool and neat
- in replay or observer - see both players resources and APM
- in game APM + timer
- added observer mode - you can host a 1v1 and have up to 10 (TEN) observers
- latest replays of games you have played are saved to the cloud and available from wherever you login in StarCraft
And much much more.
And this thread asks what is different in the game, not what is different than a given 3rd party tool.
namaste
Thanks for coming to this thread BlueStar, I'll send you PM replying to your post if you want (just send me "yes" in PM to confirm).
I just don't want to argue more in things I've talked about before.
I hope you like SCR like I like SC1.16.
Have a nice day mate .
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There is no point to argue.
Each one of us has his own POV.
One thing that popped in the thread - the 3rd party tools. It can be really cool if Blizzard organize some kind of hackathon
- how to improve the UI/UX of SCR
I think SC has a large community of developers and people with know-how who may be willing to invest effort into making this game more modern.
Many people kept moving the game and improved the user experience - bwchart, chaos launcher, 7x patcher, anything that can come to someone's mind...
Obviously, it's hard for blizzard to implement the vision of the people who really play StarCraft but they are doing good so far. Not perfect but really well, especially when they face such challenge to adapt such archaic technology in 2017-2018!
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Another question,
Can I join tournaments like CPL with free SCR ?
I know free SCR doesn't allow Ladder, so what about tournaments that require that you have a certain amount of SCR MMR ?
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lul i tried playing ladder last week, i'm unranked now i hit search game, 54sec estimated, 240sec elapsed cancel gg bye lul
also chat is still broken apparently, at first couldn't communicate with my friend we had to use /w (the chat doesn't relay like 10% messages, sometimes it works it seems, sometimes not, so still not fixed i guess)
ofc friend list still just say "unranked" etc, whatever i will probably uninstall again shortly
i think population on europe server is about the same or lower as before SC:R ? it may be pretty close to iccup population now. Last time i checked iccup it had 200+ players can't remember time of day, europe has this amount near midnight i think
i dont rly doubt iccup is lot better for laddering
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On October 28 2018 21:28 Moataz wrote:
Another question,
Can I join tournaments like CPL with free SCR ?
I know free SCR doesn't allow Ladder, so what about tournaments that require that you have a certain amount of SCR MMR ?
how are you going to get the "certain amount of SCR MMR" required without ladder?
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On October 29 2018 01:10 atrox_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 21:28 Moataz wrote:
Another question,
Can I join tournaments like CPL with free SCR?
I know free SCR doesn't allow Ladder, so what about tournaments that require that you have a certain amount of SCR MMR ? how are you going to get the "certain amount of SCR MMR" required without ladder?
I meant is there are any tournaments that don't require "certain amount of SCR MMR", maybe just ICCUP account/rank? , I don't know much about tournaments, maybe BWCL ?
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