Jaedong possibly retiring and coming back to BW?

On May 16 2016 12:53 riotjune wrote:
inb4 Jaedong 91% zvz winrate the mutas are coming o nooooooooo

Jaedong should retire

On May 16 2016 12:44 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Looking at the original post instead of Sea going 50/50 with Jaedong it says that Sea won more and that this is confirmed by other team members. It also said that though Sea had the winning record vs Jaedong he never ranked first on the team because every time they would have team-ranking matches Sea lost in overall pts because Jaedong would go 4-0 against Jaehoon*, Tyson, and Sang/Terminator each while Sea would lose a random game to Tyson (Sea said its because hes terran lol).

*Jaehoon said that at first he lost 0-4 but later on he would manage to take a game and lose 1-4.

On May 16 2016 13:11 Wrath wrote:


Pretty sure at this point he already did. It is just waiting "official" announcement.

- He left EG
- Deleted his twitter
- Did not participate in the only leagues he is allowed to and will not have a chance to do so until the end of 2016 (Which is about 7 more months).

(7) Jaedong has recently played sc1 and even joined a clan, trying to disguise himself as a ordinary user.

On May 16 2016 13:29 c3rberUs wrote:

This won't work for long. Imagine the godlike muta micro dissecting you every time you play this random zerg user.

Thank you very much for the translation/s!

On May 16 2016 13:41 Ilikestarcraft wrote:

To elaborate on (7) Jaedong joined the clan disguised as an ordinary user and after he revealed he was jaedong, they told him to stop making shit up.

On May 16 2016 13:48 Wrath wrote:


"stop making shit up" lol what?

On May 16 2016 13:57 c3rberUs wrote:

If I told you I was SlayerS_`BoxeR`, what would you tell me?

On May 16 2016 12:40 blade55555 wrote:
I think it's fairly obvious he's retiring from sc2 at this point. I hope he goes to afreeca as no stream is a sad stream

2006

On May 16 2016 16:35 Incognoto wrote:


I don't know about that, I think that the game is mostly fun.

Just because some people don't like it doesn't mean the entire world hates it.

On May 16 2016 20:08 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
I mean at this point we need to see and support the new generation of players and the upcomming foreigners. You can never hype the only generation of players. But alot of ppl using it as an excuse to bash SC2

No problem for me that JD is going back to BW. But my problem is using it as a excuse of random forum users to force their opinion to others...

On May 16 2016 16:33 JackONeill wrote:
I'm glad to see that JDG expressed SC2 isn't fun anymore. Usually when pros are quitting they don't say that they lost interest in the game/they don't feel it's fun anymore, but if every pro that retired did state it semi-officially maybe that'd have some weight on the dev team continuing to ruin the game :V

On May 16 2016 13:41 Ilikestarcraft wrote:

To elaborate on (7) Jaedong joined the clan disguised as an ordinary user and after he revealed he was jaedong, they told him to stop making shit up.

On May 16 2016 23:37 ROOTFayth wrote:
don't think they are missing the actual game broodwar as much as they are missing their success in it, it just hasn't translated as well as they thought it would... not meeting expectations makes anybody unhappy

On May 17 2016 00:25 BaronVonOwn wrote:

And yet all the great players from 1.6 are doing just fine in CSGO. Are we really going to shift the blame to Jaedong, FlaSh etc.? And let's not forget dudes like Jangbi, Stork, and Bisu who were just like yeah fuck this shit... There's nothing wrong with SC2, they're just bad at the game, right?

On May 16 2016 22:04 PharaphobiaSC wrote:


There are new rising stars in EU and NA and even in korea. Hopefully there will be some more drafts. Jesusi christ stop living in the past. Everyone will retire or stop playing the game at some point. And new players will come.

The biggest wall is comming from ppl like you? My favorite player reitred? dead gaem, new player? noob...

You don't even give new guys the cachne. Feedback from LotV is positive. Viewership is okay, EU and NA players are finally have chance to compete? What more you want lol

On May 17 2016 00:46 lolmlg wrote:
SC2 is a different game requiring a different skillset. There was no reason to expect every great BW player to be great at SC2 and there was no reason to expect everyone who enjoyed BW to enjoy SC2. These two errors were huge reasons why the actions of Blizzard in Korea could only be seen as belligerent and counter-productive.

Jaedong was already past his prime when professional BW came to an end. It would be naive to suggest that going back to BW is something that he would do primarily to be on top again. And while it is well known that players have dropped off in the past as a result of losing passion, no matter what game they were playing, that doesn't really explain why a player would quit a game he has played professionally for four years to return to a game he played professionally for seven years. Indeed, there's no reason to think he ever stopped playing BW to begin with.

On May 17 2016 00:42 Essbee wrote:
1.6 is way closer to cs:go than bw is to sc2. People think bw is similar to sc2 just because of the name, if you've played both games you would know that they are entirely different, like, not even close. Cs:go and 1.6 are similar enough so that successful players from one game can easily translate their skills to the other one. Hell, even the maps are basically the same.

On May 17 2016 01:55 BLinD-RawR wrote:

He did say that he wants to return o esports after his service though, not sure in which capacity.

On May 18 2016 00:33 Wrath wrote:
Glad this was moved to BW forums. It felt awkward in the SC2 fourms.

On May 17 2016 23:22 BisuDagger wrote:
I think this thread ran its course on the SC2 forums. Moving to the BW forums now where it should have been posted.

@BW posters, please ignore the ignorant posts by certain people in here.

On May 18 2016 00:14 IntoTheheart wrote:
Does anyone have VODs of JD right now, or are they super hard to find because:
1. nobody casts them
2. not sure what his ID is?

On May 18 2016 04:02 goody153 wrote:
Well if he comes back that would be interesting. All that would be left would be stork

On May 18 2016 01:07 BisuDagger wrote:

It was at TRaFFiC's post. I won't even quote it because just having it once is irritating enough lol. I was just generalizing for the sake of being general.

@The_Red_Viper, that last sentence was designed to give you an additional chucckle.

edit: Just read back through your posts and they are completely reasonable lol. You're doing just fine nighcol ! And thanks for listening to my casts :D

On May 18 2016 02:47 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Stork won't come back to Brood War. They keep him in a cage at the zoo.

On May 17 2016 00:44 Primelot wrote:


Thanks for posting this, the negativity from some old BW Fanboys or even Elite Korean SC2 one and only is just going extremly on my balls and this negativity isn't helping anybody at all, remeber the daed game shit? Did it something positive or anything? Not at all. I don't like Blizzards Sc2 Aproach sometimes still we get new Talent, in EU and NA, watched Today's DH Final? Nerchio vs Showtime was fuckign awesome and really good Games. Foreigners arent just shit like the haters always say, the Numbers where good for SC2. The Viewers are still higher then Heroes which is supported so fuckign heavy since 1 Years and even the Heartstone Viewers are on the same Level as the Sc2 ones? Where is that Game Dead anywhere? I don't get this People who are just bashing most of the Time. If you don't like Sc2 don't watch it and play BW or just watch GSL/ SSL and fap on Koreans ffs.

On May 18 2016 05:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:
I think the really pathetic thing about this website, and the community, is that you cant actually criticize anyones faviroute game without temp bans or warnings. It leads to this kind of silly neurosis where everyone feels the need to jump and defend their game, as if it was their own mother, because its so taboo.

SC2 sucks and it will be dead soon and im happy for it. I'm not happy a game you like is going to die. Yet somehow this statement alone might get me banned for weeks.

On May 18 2016 02:47 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Stork won't come back to Brood War. They keep him in a cage at the zoo.

On May 16 2016 21:20 Thinh123456 wrote:
Ok, this means SC2 is more like a dead meat as JD said SC2 is even not fun as before.

On May 18 2016 11:27 -NegativeZero- wrote:
rofl at both the bw and sc2 fanboys being idiots, i knew this would end up happening

On May 18 2016 11:27 -NegativeZero- wrote:
rofl at both the bw and sc2 fanboys being idiots, i knew this would end up happening

On May 18 2016 19:42 konadora wrote:
wait jaedong played protoss in sc2?

On May 17 2016 04:45 TRaFFiC wrote:
All these Broodwar Nutters foaming at the mouth at the idea of Jaedong playing BW. I would be all for it if I saw any future in it. Unless BW is now bigger than sc2 somehow. Not to mention he hasn't been playing that game. You can't just go back to different RTS with different hotkeys like nothing happened.

If he's lost interest for good, I hope he finds the right path in the next chapter of his life.

On May 18 2016 21:04 Chef wrote:

It is the purview of all human beings to take an special interest in something and to look down on others who do not share that interest. For some nasty reason people are inclined to look down on others, and when that exclusion becomes meta, it is twice as repulsive. I pity you, and I pity myself, for I am thrice as meta to look down on you. We are all cursed.

Jaedong please save us.

On May 19 2016 01:33 JieXian wrote:


hahaha It's irrelevant whether you see any future in it, or whether you think JD can cope, because the BW Scene (Nutters) and JD are waaay above that.



It's way more that sharing an interest or not sharing and interest. BW vs SC2 isn't anything like TF2 vs Overwatch.

ie the kespa forced switch, that SC2 was also made by Blizzard and had a lot of chance to do something better, how they ignored the arguments made by the pros etc etc.

I mean surely if they had made SC2 more similarly to the way DotA2 and CSGO was made (ie using a successful, working model as a baseline and respecting it) we would've been a lot more welcoming.

On May 18 2016 05:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:
I think the really pathetic thing about this website, and the community, is that you cant actually criticize anyones faviroute game without temp bans or warnings. It leads to this kind of silly neurosis where everyone feels the need to jump and defend their game, as if it was their own mother, because its so taboo.

SC2 sucks and it will be dead soon and im happy for it. I'm not happy a game you like is going to die. Yet somehow this statement alone might get me banned for weeks.

On May 19 2016 10:18 HerbMon wrote:
WOOOO JAEDONG !!!!!!
See you on ladder soon enough sweet prince.

On May 19 2016 10:18 HerbMon wrote:
WOOOO JAEDONG !!!!!!
See you on ladder soon enough sweet prince.



Sc2 sucks.

On May 20 2016 15:01 Wrath wrote:
Last night I had a dream seeing an Afreeca announcement about Jaedong's stream.

On May 20 2016 16:02 MarineCA1 wrote:
Im still waiting for the 2 major BW tournaments that were announced by Afreeca, NSL final was fking hype.

On May 20 2016 15:03 Essbee wrote:


I had a dream seeing Jaedong playing on shieldbattery. I win.

On May 20 2016 18:46 duke91 wrote:


I had a dream seeing Jaedong streaming vs Flash on shield battery while trash talking Flash in english

On May 20 2016 18:57 Wintex wrote:
nice, bw in the summer will be king!

(2) When jaedong lost to tyson in starleague, he broke his keyboard

ROFL srsly

On May 20 2016 16:36 FlaShFTW wrote:

HOLY SHIT HYPEUUUU

On May 20 2016 19:41 aQuaSC wrote:
As someone who didn't get to enjoy BW fully due to lack of access to internet until before SC2 release and currently enjoying SC2 I feel like a public enemy here. Talk about elitism...

As for Jaedong, best of luck to him in whatever direction he chooses. It'd be nice to hop on his BW stream if he decides to go into it.

On May 20 2016 19:47 SpiritOfChicago wrote:
I wonder why people are still stuck in the Broodwar era. Is it because of the good old times ~10 years ago that were full of hype for the game?

What is the reason in playing an outdated game that is inferior to it's evolution? Flash, Jaedong and other popular Korean BW streames must be.. lost. Now that their pro gaming careers are over they don't know what to do, so they go back to what they know best and where they feel most comfortable.

On May 20 2016 19:53 duke91 wrote:





Don't worry dude I got you covered:
-But don't you know that BW graphics are old?
-Why don't people hop to the newer, ergo better game?
-BW people are elitist
-BW people are suffering from nostalgia
-Pros returning to BW just are too bad for the competition in SC2
-Broodwar is old and dead guys, why don't you play SC2?
-SC2 is more strategical compared to BW, which is all mechanics with no MBS. It's a strategy game in the end. Also look at the LOL people being so inferior with regards to mechanics/apm, haha noobs. Did I forget to mention that BW people are elitist?
-It's not that Blizzard tried to kill BW and forced Kespa to switch to SC2 in order to promote SC2. It would have been inevitable since SC2 is the newer game.
-BW streams getting 10 times more viewers than SC2? Oh it must be that all of the BW progamer streamers are using viewbots. In reality, Wintergaming has more actual viewers than Flash.

On May 20 2016 20:01 A.Alm wrote:


I can bet all my money you havent played brood war enough to make any comments.

On May 20 2016 19:47 SpiritOfChicago wrote:
I wonder why people are still stuck in the Broodwar era. Is it because of the good old times ~10 years ago that were full of hype for the game?

On May 20 2016 20:19 kogeT wrote:
Asking all these stupid questions about brood war is like asking why people still play this old, boring game of chess.

On May 20 2016 19:47 SpiritOfChicago wrote:
I wonder why people are still stuck in the Broodwar era. Is it because of the good old times ~10 years ago that were full of hype for the game?

What is the reason in playing an outdated game that is inferior to it's evolution? Flash, Jaedong and other popular Korean BW streames must be.. lost. Now that their pro gaming careers are over they don't know what to do, so they go back to what they know best and where they feel most comfortable.

User was temp banned for this post.

On May 20 2016 20:29 duke91 wrote:


I too prefer the prequel trilogy Star Wars to the original trilogy Star Wars. They added super cool characters like Jar-Jar and Anakin. Also the special effects are much better. I wonder why people are so nostalgic about the original trilogy while you have to suffer from the outdated special effects.

Oh btw I never watched the original trilogy till the end, just the first 10 minutes. It already convinced me that you old geezers are just suffering from nostalgia. Go with the future old men!

On May 20 2016 23:37 On_Slaught wrote:
YAY! Welcome back JD!

On May 21 2016 01:51 BisuDagger wrote:

Of course we can. I can't edit a warning text on top of the thread and I can't properly warn people. But I can have Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu laugh at people for continuing off topic discussion!

On May 21 2016 08:54 Dazed_Spy wrote:
The main topic is about Jaedong switching between two games, only in the narrowest, least interesting, most authoritarian, most autistic sense, is a discussion about said video games, Jaedongs suitability for each and why, etc, off topic. Apparently outside of non-reply's following the pattern of "Oh, Jaedong may return to Broodwar, hooray" everything is off topic. In which case, this thread should be closed and stickied, because any discussion is a discussion thats off topic.

On May 21 2016 12:24 blade55555 wrote:


There's a difference in discussing both of them and being a prick while being elitist about either sc2 or bw.

On May 21 2016 01:19 Beelzebub1 wrote:BW is only inferior graphically

On May 21 2016 17:17 RoomOfMush wrote:

I wouldnt say that. I actually prefer the BW graphics. They are more colourful and atmospheric. SC2 has a kind of soulless look in my opinion. Whatever that means. (Hard to explain)

On May 21 2016 19:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:
y'all confusing graphics with aesthetics.

On May 21 2016 23:02 Shield wrote:
This SC2 vs BW argument is getting really old.

First, you couldn't have had SC2 without Brood War. SC2 was created thanks to Brood War's success.

Second, both games are strategical but offer different challenges sometimes. SC2 made some things easier than Brood War's ones such as mechanics, but it also made outmacroing your opponent harder, for example. Different tools for different jobs, really.

Finally, to each his own. There are people who like SC2 and people who like BW. Let's play what we find fun. I play SC2, but I played BW before that. Both are fun in their own way.

It's like sports really. Some people prefer football, others prefer basketball, etc.