• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:14
CEST 17:14
KST 00:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League0Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18
StarCraft 2
General
How to Download Betbhai9 App Safely on Mobile herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 VPN experiences vespene.gg — BW replays in browser (Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1539 users

If you could patch Brood War... - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 12 13 14 Next All
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
January 21 2014 17:59 GMT
#21
On January 22 2014 02:31 2Pacalypse- wrote:
customize keyboard shortcuts - i never understood why people are so adamantly against it


filthy casual
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
January 21 2014 18:02 GMT
#22
Oh and a rewind function on replays
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
January 21 2014 18:11 GMT
#23
On January 22 2014 02:40 Rlentless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 02:00 traceurling wrote:
On January 22 2014 01:56 vOdToasT wrote:
On January 22 2014 01:54 traceurling wrote:
I would give scouts inherent movement speed
Also make it so workers aren't so bad at mining so that you don't have to worry about mineral formation and gas location which creates mild imbalance.
And make it so the bottom two rows of tiles of a map are usable so that the symmetry doesn't create assume try especially in maps where it matters and you need building space like Polaris and Desti and Andromeda
Also what do you mean in number 2?


You know when you select a marine, a marine's face is shown at the bottom of the screen. If you click on his face, the camera will move to his position.

Wow did not know...
Can't you also ctrl+c?

You can also alt+c.

Indeed I discovered it not a long time ago and it's soo useful. I hated to wait the end of the transmission of an other unit to center the view.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
January 21 2014 18:16 GMT
#24
Sorry, what's the ramp error on FS 12 o'clock expo?
안지호
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11597 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 18:18:53
January 21 2014 18:18 GMT
#25
when on Battle.net (non-private servers) then random times when you click on the "join" button to see the list of games, and none appear, despite games existing. (i think it's a lag issue, as the same is done with your profile, where if you edit it, sometimes it won't save your edit)

fix port forwarding problems

full implementation of LAN latency

Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
January 21 2014 18:19 GMT
#26
On January 22 2014 03:16 YejinYejin wrote:
Sorry, what's the ramp error on FS 12 o'clock expo?

Now where did I put that Bisu gif hmmm.
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary959 Posts
January 21 2014 18:21 GMT
#27
i would decrease zealot hp at least by 10.
agentzimp
TL+ Member
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9538 Posts
January 21 2014 18:31 GMT
#28
On January 22 2014 02:59 Sayle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 02:31 2Pacalypse- wrote:
customize keyboard shortcuts - i never understood why people are so adamantly against it


filthy casual

id be the first one playing with legacy keys because i couldnt be bothered to relearn the hotkeys (same as i do in dota2)

however, i think this is one thing that wouldnt take anything away from hardcore players while giving a lot to beginning players and those who switch from sc2 etc.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
January 21 2014 18:41 GMT
#29
On January 22 2014 03:31 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 02:59 Sayle wrote:
On January 22 2014 02:31 2Pacalypse- wrote:
customize keyboard shortcuts - i never understood why people are so adamantly against it


filthy casual

id be the first one playing with legacy keys because i couldnt be bothered to relearn the hotkeys (same as i do in dota2)

however, i think this is one thing that wouldnt take anything away from hardcore players while giving a lot to beginning players and those who switch from sc2 etc.

That's what starbow is for
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 21 2014 18:47 GMT
#30
Part of the reason I like BW is because of how the game is played and all of the little tricks, shenanigans etc... that you can do. Units getting stuck is annoying but you're not going to lose a game because your unit got stuck lol. If your opponent is already in your main and taking out your gateways, chances are you've already sustained some damage, not to say you still can't win since I've won games after that but I don't see units popping below buildings as a big problem in that specific scenario. Your opponent can also just reposition his hydras around the gateway and kill the units as they are produced so been able to change what direction they come from the gateway won't change much.

Frankly, the only thing I would consider is maybe a slight buff to scout speed. Scouts are my favourite unit yet they don't get used much. Keep the upgrade for them but make them a little faster so that they may get used more. While I also think dark swarm is powerful especially in TvZ(lose the most late game when defiler hits the field), I wouldn't want it removed or debuffed since irradiate is also just as powerful if you utilize it well.

It's actually funny that you posted this thread since I was playing against a zerg player yesterday(he said he hasn't played in 6 years, plays SCII) and then he proceeded to ask me if Terran is still imba from like 2004 XD Don't worry, I managed to educate him that unless you're Flash (I guess nada, iloveoov, boxer and fantasy as well), terran isn't imba lol.

On January 22 2014 02:31 2Pacalypse- wrote:
customize keyboard shortcuts - i never understood why people are so adamantly against it

i agree with all your points too

While I agree that customization is nice, I don't see why forcing people to stick to specific shortcuts is that bad lol. You'll eventually learn the shortcuts and it won't matter if you changed them in the first place or not but I understand how it can be easier to get into the game if you're from SCII for example and used to a certain set of shortcuts and such.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1716 Posts
January 21 2014 18:47 GMT
#31
I WOULD NERF RUSH BUNKER BY PUTTING BACK POOL AT 150!
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 21 2014 18:50 GMT
#32
On January 22 2014 03:47 iFU.pauline wrote:
I WOULD NERF RUSH BUNKER BY PUTTING BACK POOL AT 150!

4 pool incoming every game!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Plissken_2097
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Spain628 Posts
January 21 2014 19:07 GMT
#33
On January 22 2014 03:47 BigFan wrote:
Part of the reason I like BW is because of how the game is played and all of the little tricks, shenanigans etc... that you can do. Units getting stuck is annoying but you're not going to lose a game because your unit got stuck lol. If your opponent is already in your main and taking out your gateways, chances are you've already sustained some damage, not to say you still can't win since I've won games after that but I don't see units popping below buildings as a big problem in that specific scenario. Your opponent can also just reposition his hydras around the gateway and kill the units as they are produced so been able to change what direction they come from the gateway won't change much.


He's refering to the gateway used for walling in your FE on PvZ.

On January 22 2014 03:21 zimp wrote:
i would decrease zealot hp at least by 10.


What's wrong with you people! You've all got the david kim flu! Suggesting the fix of annoying features it's alright, but changing the units/stats/balance it's not.

+ Show Spoiler +
Maybe scouts could use a little umph....but w/e...
Formerly Golondrin
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 21 2014 19:12 GMT
#34
On January 22 2014 04:07 Golondrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 03:47 BigFan wrote:
Part of the reason I like BW is because of how the game is played and all of the little tricks, shenanigans etc... that you can do. Units getting stuck is annoying but you're not going to lose a game because your unit got stuck lol. If your opponent is already in your main and taking out your gateways, chances are you've already sustained some damage, not to say you still can't win since I've won games after that but I don't see units popping below buildings as a big problem in that specific scenario. Your opponent can also just reposition his hydras around the gateway and kill the units as they are produced so been able to change what direction they come from the gateway won't change much.


He's refering to the gateway used for walling in your FE on PvZ.

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 03:21 zimp wrote:
i would decrease zealot hp at least by 10.


What's wrong with you people! You've all got the david kim flu! Suggesting the fix of annoying features it's alright, but changing the units/stats/balance it's not.

+ Show Spoiler +
Maybe scouts could use a little umph....but w/e...

hmm now that you mention it that way, ya, it was a little annoying to see zealots spawn at the bottom lol but is it really that big of a deal? I'm sure there are more pressing matters like that valkyrie bug that's been mentioned
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
January 21 2014 19:16 GMT
#35
it would be cool if walls looked like walls (without fake gaps)
KTY
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28804 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 19:33:48
January 21 2014 19:16 GMT
#36
I'd make lan latency/antihack an integrated part, and I'd make everyone able to make games without having to port forward.

there are a few minor bugs that have happened and made me lose games say 5 games out of 20000 that I would fix, like sometimes units being permanently stuck in ramps. I wouldn't touch any aspect of micro at all, because even the micro-bugs are great for differentiating players. Occasionally my own marines get stuck when I'm chasing down units, but it actually only happens because my commands aren't sufficiently fine-tuned. reaver scarabs too, it's normally quite predictable which scarabs are going to bug and not.

Additionally I kinda agree that it'd be good to be able to change where units pop out, but then one of my most glorious brood war moments comes from exploiting that they always pop out at the same place, so even though it would be good for map location balance reasons, I'm kinda like fuck it anyway.

Also, I actually like how stuff like this forces you to slightly adjust your strategy - and enables your opponent to adjust his strategy - based on starting locations. I remember I had this old 2 hatch hydra build on medusa zvt, where if I started at 11 or 2 I would scout pretty early to determine whether he was at 7 - because the strategy was by far best when used against a terran at 7 because they would wallin differently. Actually I'm not sure I'm remembering the locations correctly cuz it's been forever, but there was one location it worked really really well against. ;p

I like everyone having to work with the same hotkeys, wouldn't want to enable that change.

As for balance, I could see stuff like scouts starting with speed being alright, and ghosts starting with the range upgrade. Those are like, so small that they might not have too much of an impact and only makes the units kinda buildable. (scout speed could actually make the 1 stargate scout into 3 gate dragoon allin too powerful though, it's not always that easy to hold as it is..) But other than that I wouldn't touch anything. Valkyrie sprite bug is like, yeah it sucks that they bug out, but if they didn't, it might require some rebalancing, so I'm not even sure about that. Would be sweet for UMS though.
Moderator
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 19:20:50
January 21 2014 19:18 GMT
#37
On January 22 2014 04:12 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 04:07 Golondrin wrote:
On January 22 2014 03:47 BigFan wrote:
Part of the reason I like BW is because of how the game is played and all of the little tricks, shenanigans etc... that you can do. Units getting stuck is annoying but you're not going to lose a game because your unit got stuck lol. If your opponent is already in your main and taking out your gateways, chances are you've already sustained some damage, not to say you still can't win since I've won games after that but I don't see units popping below buildings as a big problem in that specific scenario. Your opponent can also just reposition his hydras around the gateway and kill the units as they are produced so been able to change what direction they come from the gateway won't change much.


He's refering to the gateway used for walling in your FE on PvZ.

On January 22 2014 03:21 zimp wrote:
i would decrease zealot hp at least by 10.


What's wrong with you people! You've all got the david kim flu! Suggesting the fix of annoying features it's alright, but changing the units/stats/balance it's not.

+ Show Spoiler +
Maybe scouts could use a little umph....but w/e...

hmm now that you mention it that way, ya, it was a little annoying to see zealots spawn at the bottom lol but is it really that big of a deal? I'm sure there are more pressing matters like that valkyrie bug that's been mentioned


I've had to cancel high templars because of hydralisk busts. It sucks, especially if you went for a build order that gets a second gateway very late. It slows down your templar production by so much.

And I've seen professional terrans lose to zergling rushes because their marine spawned outside of their wall... It's bad.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
skzlime
Profile Joined July 2005
Hungary462 Posts
January 21 2014 19:20 GMT
#38
i would make spider mines multi-selectable and add a detonate/disarm command. i would even be fine with them unburrowing and dealing damage while blowing up.
i would reduce targeting priority for interceptors below that of spellcasters so goliaths target ground units in range first.
i would remove the bug that makes lurkers deal double damage on their last shot when they die.
life is balanced, L2P
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19359 Posts
January 21 2014 19:32 GMT
#39
I would
-patch the hold button into lurker button UI.
-patch a button that would cause mutas to fly into a stack formation if they start to spread out from each other
+ Show Spoiler +
suck it terran

ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28804 Posts
January 21 2014 19:35 GMT
#40
I would also remove the bug that lets terran players move scvs through your ramp even though you have blocked it
Moderator
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#88
WardiTV1481
IntoTheiNu 719
TKL 513
Ryung 442
Rex167
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 513
Ryung 442
sc2solar 223
Rex 167
ProTech93
Railgan 82
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 60333
Jaedong 1746
EffOrt 1670
Mini 1579
actioN 425
ggaemo 386
Hyuk 373
BeSt 348
firebathero 333
Light 283
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 258
Sharp 177
Nal_rA 150
Rush 130
Mong 99
Mind 96
[sc1f]eonzerg 73
Pusan 60
scan(afreeca) 50
Sea.KH 49
Barracks 45
ToSsGirL 35
Movie 34
soO 28
Rock 28
Sexy 22
JulyZerg 21
HiyA 20
IntoTheRainbow 16
Terrorterran 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
League of Legends
Reynor98
Counter-Strike
byalli817
allub246
Other Games
B2W.Neo1090
Dendi923
hiko819
Lowko544
Beastyqt520
Hui .243
XaKoH 234
crisheroes195
Pyrionflax170
ArmadaUGS164
mouzStarbuck160
Liquid`VortiX88
KnowMe47
Trikslyr32
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL796
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 72
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• HappyZerGling59
League of Legends
• Jankos2590
• Nemesis1708
• TFBlade559
• Stunt408
Other Games
• WagamamaTV347
• Shiphtur84
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
46m
Replay Cast
8h 46m
Kung Fu Cup
19h 46m
GSL
1d 18h
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
Replay Cast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
4 days
IPSL
5 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
IPSL
6 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.