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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
September 01 2013 17:15 GMT
#841
Thank you KeSPA for switching focus to LoL, and Riot for making LoL the biggest esports title in SK. Now the players that forced to play the game that they don't actually like can return where they belong.

Can't wait for the next SSL/SRT
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 01 2013 18:19 GMT
#842
On September 02 2013 00:58 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 23:06 figq wrote:
Blizzard still have so much opportunity on their hands with BW, they probably don't even realize. BW is still their IP. They could renovate it, promote it all over Korea for a second big wave of BW esports, and require some reasonable % of that economy, for providing the rights. Everybody could win. Hell, if Blizzard would play that card well, they could easily win more money from BW in Korea than from SC2. Keep in mind they do invest a crapton of money in the development of SC2, and for BW they have everything ready and done, only requiring some addons, like matchmaking and stuff.


This! The problem is Blizzard developers seem to have some serious ego issues and insecurities. That's why they have tried to undermine BW for several past years instead of winning Korea fair and square.

Why would Blizzard pump so much money into SCII to try and make it the leading esports in Korea then turn around and start pumping into BW and leave SCII in the dust? It'll never happen because it'll alienate any fans that they made with SCII likely losing them a large chunk of money and they are a business after all. Just imagine the community outcry(SCII section) if such a thing happened. They're already singing SCII is dying lol. On top of that, Blizzard should've just invested into BW in the first place but they would make more money prompting SCII since LoTV is still coming out in ~2 years time or so. Ya, they have some ego issues with refusing to have certain mechanics in SCII that should be normal imo like high ground advantage.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Larvator
Profile Joined May 2013
Ukraine87 Posts
September 01 2013 18:36 GMT
#843
On September 01 2013 20:15 Gamegene wrote:
Every zerg in SSL just shed a tear.


SSL Zergs are very sharp-toothed when it comes to killing a protoss.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
September 01 2013 19:15 GMT
#844
Well, that's a shame.

I'm going to go watch that OSL final now. GL Jangbi with everything.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5830 Posts
September 01 2013 19:33 GMT
#845
On September 02 2013 03:19 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 00:58 maybenexttime wrote:
On September 01 2013 23:06 figq wrote:
Blizzard still have so much opportunity on their hands with BW, they probably don't even realize. BW is still their IP. They could renovate it, promote it all over Korea for a second big wave of BW esports, and require some reasonable % of that economy, for providing the rights. Everybody could win. Hell, if Blizzard would play that card well, they could easily win more money from BW in Korea than from SC2. Keep in mind they do invest a crapton of money in the development of SC2, and for BW they have everything ready and done, only requiring some addons, like matchmaking and stuff.


This! The problem is Blizzard developers seem to have some serious ego issues and insecurities. That's why they have tried to undermine BW for several past years instead of winning Korea fair and square.

Why would Blizzard pump so much money into SCII to try and make it the leading esports in Korea then turn around and start pumping into BW and leave SCII in the dust? It'll never happen because it'll alienate any fans that they made with SCII likely losing them a large chunk of money and they are a business after all. Just imagine the community outcry(SCII section) if such a thing happened. They're already singing SCII is dying lol. On top of that, Blizzard should've just invested into BW in the first place but they would make more money prompting SCII since LoTV is still coming out in ~2 years time or so. Ya, they have some ego issues with refusing to have certain mechanics in SCII that should be normal imo like high ground advantage.


I'm not talking about investing a lot of money into BW in Korea. The drive is already there, moreso than in case of SC2, afaik. Using WC3's BNet infrastructure/code (which seems to be compatible with BW) and possibly integrating iCCup etc. features (I don't think their creators would oppose that) does not take that much effort. And they wouldn't have to leave SC2 in the dust either - the games are different enough for them to get Blizzard's support.

I'm pretty sure they could come up with a new model of monetizing BW that takes into account the PC Bang culture, UMS community, map making community, the sports culture and so on. I mean, if Valve can make a fortune by selling hats, why can't Blizzard do the same? Their fanbase used to be equally enthusiastic as Valve's.
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
September 01 2013 19:48 GMT
#846
On September 01 2013 20:42 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 20:01 GGzerG wrote:
AND SO IT BEGUN.......I think this will spark the rebirth of BW.....


If only Blizzard wasn't so against BW, we could get an enhanced version of BW (with proper BNet functions, a combination of WC3 BNet and iCCup, plus some BNet 2.0 functions to top it off) - Brood War: Revival. :D

It's coming soon(TM).
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 19:49:36
September 01 2013 19:49 GMT
#847
On September 02 2013 04:33 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 03:19 BigFan wrote:
On September 02 2013 00:58 maybenexttime wrote:
On September 01 2013 23:06 figq wrote:
Blizzard still have so much opportunity on their hands with BW, they probably don't even realize. BW is still their IP. They could renovate it, promote it all over Korea for a second big wave of BW esports, and require some reasonable % of that economy, for providing the rights. Everybody could win. Hell, if Blizzard would play that card well, they could easily win more money from BW in Korea than from SC2. Keep in mind they do invest a crapton of money in the development of SC2, and for BW they have everything ready and done, only requiring some addons, like matchmaking and stuff.


This! The problem is Blizzard developers seem to have some serious ego issues and insecurities. That's why they have tried to undermine BW for several past years instead of winning Korea fair and square.

Why would Blizzard pump so much money into SCII to try and make it the leading esports in Korea then turn around and start pumping into BW and leave SCII in the dust? It'll never happen because it'll alienate any fans that they made with SCII likely losing them a large chunk of money and they are a business after all. Just imagine the community outcry(SCII section) if such a thing happened. They're already singing SCII is dying lol. On top of that, Blizzard should've just invested into BW in the first place but they would make more money prompting SCII since LoTV is still coming out in ~2 years time or so. Ya, they have some ego issues with refusing to have certain mechanics in SCII that should be normal imo like high ground advantage.


I'm not talking about investing a lot of money into BW in Korea. The drive is already there, moreso than in case of SC2, afaik. Using WC3's BNet infrastructure/code (which seems to be compatible with BW) and possibly integrating iCCup etc. features (I don't think their creators would oppose that) does not take that much effort. And they wouldn't have to leave SC2 in the dust either - the games are different enough for them to get Blizzard's support.

I'm pretty sure they could come up with a new model of monetizing BW that takes into account the PC Bang culture, UMS community, map making community, the sports culture and so on. I mean, if Valve can make a fortune by selling hats, why can't Blizzard do the same? Their fanbase used to be equally enthusiastic as Valve's.

hmm thing is, by keeping both BW and SCII, you are splitting up the RTS esports market. I see your point though and even though it's valid, I highly doubt Blizzard will do it. To them, BW is old and SCII is its replacement that 'they' made which is why they have a large ego when it comes to SCII and flat out refuse some of the communities' suggestions. Yes, Blizzard's fanbase can be equally as enthusiastic but it doesn't seem like Blizzard will make the right moves to take advantage of that.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
September 01 2013 19:49 GMT
#848
i doubt blizzard is going to support BW ever, as they never did before. They did bet on SC2 to be the next big epsort thing and they are going to stick with it. However i've decided to watch the vods of the final two OSL in tribute to Jangbi now.
Broodwar for life!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 19:50:33
September 01 2013 19:50 GMT
#849
On September 02 2013 04:49 Cele wrote:
i doubt blizzard is going to support BW ever, as they never did before. They did bet on SC2 to be the next big epsort thing and they are going to stick with it. However i've decided to watch the vods of the final two OSL in tribute to Jangbi now.

you've been beaten my friend

edit: Shine vs Shuttle gogo! lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
September 01 2013 20:11 GMT
#850
On September 02 2013 03:36 Larvator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 20:15 Gamegene wrote:
Every zerg in SSL just shed a tear.


SSL Zergs are very sharp-toothed when it comes to killing a protoss.


I seem to remember Bisu having the biggest, sharpest PvZ teeth in the buisness

JangBi was one of the best players in the game at the end. Jaehoon was finally overcoming nerves and doing well at the end too (something like 64% WR over last calendar year of BW) and just rolled hero 2-0.

Afreeca protoss is getting a major buff!
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 01 2013 20:12 GMT
#851
On September 02 2013 04:50 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 04:49 Cele wrote:
i doubt blizzard is going to support BW ever, as they never did before. They did bet on SC2 to be the next big epsort thing and they are going to stick with it. However i've decided to watch the vods of the final two OSL in tribute to Jangbi now.

you've been beaten my friend

edit: Shine vs Shuttle gogo! lol.


Wait, Shine joined SSL?
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 01 2013 20:19 GMT
#852
On September 02 2013 05:12 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 04:50 BigFan wrote:
On September 02 2013 04:49 Cele wrote:
i doubt blizzard is going to support BW ever, as they never did before. They did bet on SC2 to be the next big epsort thing and they are going to stick with it. However i've decided to watch the vods of the final two OSL in tribute to Jangbi now.

you've been beaten my friend

edit: Shine vs Shuttle gogo! lol.


Wait, Shine joined SSL?

nono lol, watching OSL
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Larvator
Profile Joined May 2013
Ukraine87 Posts
September 01 2013 21:23 GMT
#853
On September 02 2013 05:11 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 03:36 Larvator wrote:
On September 01 2013 20:15 Gamegene wrote:
Every zerg in SSL just shed a tear.


SSL Zergs are very sharp-toothed when it comes to killing a protoss.


I seem to remember Bisu having the biggest, sharpest PvZ teeth in the buisness

JangBi was one of the best players in the game at the end. Jaehoon was finally overcoming nerves and doing well at the end too (something like 64% WR over last calendar year of BW) and just rolled hero 2-0.

Afreeca protoss is getting a major buff!


Well, then it's time to see how good Hero and Killer are!
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
September 01 2013 22:39 GMT
#854
rumors are FLYING in a FLASH that BISU is STORKing back to SOSPA...
-
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
September 01 2013 23:28 GMT
#855
I would actually start watching BW again.... if streams were not a total shit everytime i tried to.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
snipealot *
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)494 Posts
September 01 2013 23:58 GMT
#856
On September 02 2013 08:28 SkelA wrote:
I would actually start watching BW again.... if streams were not a total shit everytime i tried to.


Anything specific I can improve?
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 02 2013 00:07 GMT
#857
On September 02 2013 08:58 snipealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 08:28 SkelA wrote:
I would actually start watching BW again.... if streams were not a total shit everytime i tried to.


Anything specific I can improve?


I don't think it is wrongdoings on your part Snipealot, it is more about the function of the contemporary Twitch.tv system. A few weeks ago, the stream ran at a very smooth pace but lately there happened to a few lag spikes there and there. This doesn't just concern us but also other games (as I've seen complaints on multiple fronts).
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
September 02 2013 01:08 GMT
#858
On September 01 2013 13:59 likeasu wrote:
jangbi is coming BACK! =)
Project twit:

"Jangbi is joining to SOSPA, he will be play on SSL very soon! It is very likely Bisu will do the same!!!"
WOW!! Its GREAT!


shit just got real in sospa!
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
snipealot *
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)494 Posts
September 02 2013 02:10 GMT
#859
Mini just got announced as a new sospa entry by sonic on fb
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
September 02 2013 02:34 GMT
#860
On September 02 2013 10:08 theMagus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 13:59 likeasu wrote:
jangbi is coming BACK! =)
Project twit: https://twitter.com/Pro7ecT/status/373886710611845120
"Jangbi is joining to SOSPA, he will be play on SSL very soon! It is very likely Bisu will do the same!!!"
WOW!! Its GREAT!


shit just got real in sospa!


im sry but before we get all over exited again... why would pro7ect know this for sure? He didnt provide a link to korean or anything.
Broodwar for life!
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