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syst
United States247 Posts
I hope you play some Brood War every now and then and have the best time. | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
Rumor from the famous Chinese translator wooyeon. She posts some tweets and posts in social medias that some Korean players, coaches, and casters discuss the following stuff. First, they said SPL is delaying to next year, so that's why some players retire. But some speculate that's because of the combination of LoL SPL and thus it is delayed. A few even say SPL is canceled. Former CJ coach (the one before coach Park) expresses his disappointment in SC2. Second, Samsung Khan is recruiting a LoL team. Stork is now casting the college league (don't know if it's SC2). Third, Jaehoon said in his stream, one Zerg player will retire and Jangbi won't go to Afreeca. http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=378484&extra=page=1 | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19392 Posts
On August 30 2013 15:55 larse wrote: Rumor: SPL is delayed to next year, a Zerg player is retiring, Jangbi won't go to Afreeca, Stork is doing casting, and Samsung is recruiting a LoL team Rumor from the famous Chinese translator wooyeon. She posts some tweets and posts in social medias that some Korean players, coaches, and casters discuss the following stuff. First, they said SPL is delaying to next year, so that's why some players retire. But some speculate that's because of the combination of LoL SPL and thus it is delayed. A few even say SPL is canceled. Former CJ coach (the one before coach Park) expresses his disappointment in SC2. Second, Samsung Khan is recruiting a LoL team. Stork is now casting the college league (don't know if it's SC2). Third, Jaehoon said in his stream, one Zerg player will retire and Jangbi won't go to Afreeca. http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=378484&extra=page=1 The only zerg I could see retiring are hydra, effort, and zero. I would really love to see zero BW again. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10871 Posts
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DinoToss
Poland507 Posts
On August 30 2013 08:06 Brutaxilos wrote: Some of the responses in this thread really piss me off. Stop whining about Protoss design or SC2 sucking or anything. This is about Jangbi and his retirement. BW for JangBi was a dream, a dream he had to end, prematurely. Some people say, how could he make such decision, while being in Code-S, and performing well in Proleague. Have you ever been in a situation where you were thrown into environment you would never choose on your own? How fun is to work, in a place you don't like to work for years, but you HAVE TO (to make a living). On one day you think it will be ok, if i do this and this i can still feel satisfaction, but you wake up on another day and you say to yourself "who am I kidding, i don't want to do this", but then you realize "I have to make a living". This inside turmoil happens, it maybe happened in JangBi's head, and i dread to think about possibility of several others BW players who would be enduring it today, while their play is scrutinized by the public in a way of "wow this guy really is not that good as he used to be in BW". How can you be a champion, when your second thought is always "I hate it". Now what it has to do with with "SC2 suck"? Well some people say it was "Kespa powerplay, Blizzard powerplay or SC2 sucks". All of this can be seen in a different perspective but you could make connections if you wanted. While there are people who take advantage of situation to simply post SC2 suck post, that does not mean there is nothing wrong. SC2 itself is a game, SC2 as a premiere esport is the embodiment of a new workplace, some people would never choose. Every new workplace may create dreams (2010 release switch of B-teamers) and may create nightmares. Years ago people believed that BW->SC2 transition will be effortless("First is starcraft, second is starcraft what difference you speak of?"), but i think we are way past that, the difference between first and second should be big enough to prevent what happened, but the people who hold money didn't care about future careers and dreams of "handful" of people. That did not make a difference to them. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On August 30 2013 16:00 BisuDagger wrote: The only zerg I could see retiring are hydra, effort, and zero. I would really love to see zero BW again. Maybe it's because my english is not really good but is it sure it's a Khan zerg ? I wouldn't want KT zergs to retire  Even if they are not at the top it would make me sad | ||
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Witten
United States2094 Posts
This is hopefully a blessing in disguise. | ||
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nighcol
298 Posts
On August 30 2013 16:30 DinoToss wrote: BW for JangBi was a dream, a dream he had to end, prematurely. Some people say, how could he make such decision, while being in Code-S, and performing well in Proleague. Have you ever been in a situation where you were thrown into environment you would never choose on your own? How fun is to work, in a place you don't like to work for years, but you HAVE TO (to make a living). I find it a bit odd how some people choose to interpret the situation like JangBi and others have been unwillingly forced into something. They always had the option to just straight out refuse even trying to transition and some indeed did do that. Kespa simply did not want to run a BW league anymore. Maybe it wasn't the smartest thing to do, maybe it was, but if anything these players got an *opportunity* to transition to a different game they had no previous experience in (even though experience in BW was likely to help) when this happened. It's a *nicer* thing to do than just ending BW and starting, say, a LoL league with completely different players. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 30 2013 17:51 nighcol wrote: I find it a bit odd how some people choose to interpret the situation like JangBi and others have been unwillingly forced into something. They always had the option to just straight out refuse even trying to transition and some indeed did do that. Kespa simply did not want to run a BW league anymore. Maybe it wasn't the smartest thing to do, maybe it was, but if anything these players got an *opportunity* to transition to a different game they had no previous experience in (even though experience in BW was likely to help) when this happened. It's a *nicer* thing to do than just ending BW and starting, say, a LoL league with completely different players. I find it a bit odd how some people choose to interpret the situation like Blizzard didn't pressure Kespa at all to transition to SC2 and that they "simply did not want to run a BW league anymore". | ||
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SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
On August 30 2013 17:14 Witten wrote: I kind of just wish all the old BW pros would retire and then Sospa can become something huge that hopefully takes off and brings BW back into the limelight. Mostly I just want to see Soulkey back in Brood War. He made me fall in love with the game. Jangbi (and to a lesser extend, Best) were the Protoss versions of Soulkey to me. Their play was just so unique and inspiring that I couldn't tear my eyes away. This is hopefully a blessing in disguise. Even if every BW player quit and return to BW, can BW be rebooted to how it once was? I sadly cant see that happening because BW player were forced to switch for a reason. Our best choice is to nourish and drive SC2 in the right direction by moving forward. A direction where everyone, both BW and sc2 player, will both be satisfied. But honestly....this feels even more improbable then rebooting BW. I honestly think that most veteran BW player will retired simply because of their desire to play BW. Those that switch and continue to have great/moderate successful will probably hang on longer and a few such as Rain will probably stay since they are doing so well. | ||
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DinoToss
Poland507 Posts
On August 30 2013 17:51 nighcol wrote: I find it a bit odd how some people choose to interpret the situation like JangBi and others have been unwillingly forced into something. They always had the option to just straight out refuse even trying to transition and some indeed did do that. Kespa simply did not want to run a BW league anymore. Maybe it wasn't the smartest thing to do, maybe it was, but if anything these players got an *opportunity* to transition to a different game they had no previous experience in (even though experience in BW was likely to help) when this happened. It's a *nicer* thing to do than just ending BW and starting, say, a LoL league with completely different players. Hey i don't hold recorded conversations between CEO's or any evidence, but saying there was no business for each side in BW->SC2 switch is laughable, given the history of dispute between Kespa and Blizzard, OGN and GOMtv. They all fought for something for few years right? You can clearly see what monster could be created from post-BW Korean soil (LoL). In business you don't simply do something on a whim. And JangBi and others simply refusing to transition would make them be unemployed. That's why my analogy to workplace. Just please spare me, going into details why money is neccesary to living. | ||
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TaShadan
Germany1982 Posts
On August 30 2013 17:14 Witten wrote: I kind of just wish all the old BW pros would retire and then Sospa can become something huge that hopefully takes off and brings BW back into the limelight. Mostly I just want to see Soulkey back in Brood War. He made me fall in love with the game. Jangbi (and to a lesser extend, Best) were the Protoss versions of Soulkey to me. Their play was just so unique and inspiring that I couldn't tear my eyes away. This is hopefully a blessing in disguise. I wish that too, but i doubt it will happen. They cant make a living with the money they get from Sospa. | ||
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nktiep
Vietnam40 Posts
jangbi <3 | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
On August 30 2013 16:00 BisuDagger wrote: The only zerg I could see retiring are hydra, effort, and zero. I would really love to see zero BW again. woah.. shit.. these are some.. interesting rumors.. But I hope that at least not all of them are true.. (i.e. that Jangbi is not going to play in SOSPA events :<) | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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Seishou
Hong Kong16 Posts
please It's too late ;_; Although I want to blame LoL for SC(2)'s downfall and BW pros leaving, it would be silly to do so. (I play it too along with doto 2) Still. ;_; | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On August 30 2013 21:14 Xiphos wrote: Apparently on that thread, people have been also speculating about SKT and KT (or the twin telecom heroes) showing concern about the future of SC2 and might pull out. I'm really curious how Blizz would react to that. They don't really care about eSports, so I guess they'd probably just shrug, but I'd like to thing it'd make them give protoss the complete redesign everyone demands for LotV. Even if they did (fat chance), it's too late. Hell, even if LotV was just BW HD, the brand is probably already spoiled. | ||
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forumtext
575 Posts
On August 30 2013 16:00 BisuDagger wrote: The only zerg I could see retiring are hydra, effort, and zero. I would really love to see zero BW again. I think it's Zero since he admitted that SK is the better Zerg. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
On August 30 2013 21:26 Ribbon wrote: I'm really curious how Blizz would react to that. They don't really care about eSports, so I guess they'd probably just shrug, but I'd like to thing it'd make them give protoss the complete redesign everyone demands for LotV. Even if they did (fat chance), it's too late. Hell, even if LotV was just BW HD, the brand is probably already spoiled. I don't understand what you mean by Blizzard doesn't care about eSports. Every game Blizzard has made in the last 10 years has had a business model that combats the fear of pirating cutting into their profits. SC2 - esports (they make a lot of money from broadcasting deals) DIII - the auction house... They take rake on all items sales. WoW - subscription Hearthstone - booster pack sales I didn't respond to you in the other thread when you made an ignorant comment, but this is essentially the same reply it needed. One could say Blizzard doesn't care about eSports as in they don't care about preserving them or making them immortal, but while Blizzard has an expansion left to sell, they're not gonna be happy if the two biggest teams ever to grace the game say 'this isn't worth our time.' They'll be worried about other KeSPA teams following suit. | ||
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