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SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-30 02:32:48
August 30 2013 02:29 GMT
#661
Well said Chef, I am just glad he said that his reason for retirement was because he didnt enjoy the game rather than making up an excuse. I am sure most of the retirement from BW player was because they didnt enjoy the game because they have work their entire life on perfecting BW and to have that taken away from them, I couldnt even imagine. Just glad he was true with himself till the end.
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
August 30 2013 02:33 GMT
#662
Well this fucking sucks... Loved watching him since the BW days, gl in life.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 30 2013 02:42 GMT
#663
On August 30 2013 10:36 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 09:20 EleanorRIgby wrote:
im honestly surprised more old broodwar players haven't retired

I think that's because very few young kids will play sc2 in Korea right now. Not many new blood, and competition level is low, so those older gamers can still hang around.

There's plenty of new blood in SC2 atm. Hell, one just broke out in the past few weeks (Sora). In fact, I would say that there are too many players and teams in the scene right now, so we should keep an eye out for more going down. There are how many teams in KR atm? 15 (incl. Axiom and EG-TL)? Too many for the scene to sustain. If STX and WJS and maybe Prime go down, then we'll be looking at a much more sustainable 12.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 30 2013 02:46 GMT
#664
On August 30 2013 11:42 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 10:36 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:20 EleanorRIgby wrote:
im honestly surprised more old broodwar players haven't retired

I think that's because very few young kids will play sc2 in Korea right now. Not many new blood, and competition level is low, so those older gamers can still hang around.

There's plenty of new blood in SC2 atm. Hell, one just broke out in the past few weeks (Sora). In fact, I would say that there are too many players and teams in the scene right now, so we should keep an eye out for more going down. There are how many teams in KR atm? 15 (incl. Axiom and EG-TL)? Too many for the scene to sustain. If STX and WJS and maybe Prime go down, then we'll be looking at a much more sustainable 12.

where is everyone getting that WJS is going down????? Haven't read anything about it.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 30 2013 02:52 GMT
#665
On August 30 2013 11:46 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 11:42 babylon wrote:
On August 30 2013 10:36 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:20 EleanorRIgby wrote:
im honestly surprised more old broodwar players haven't retired

I think that's because very few young kids will play sc2 in Korea right now. Not many new blood, and competition level is low, so those older gamers can still hang around.

There's plenty of new blood in SC2 atm. Hell, one just broke out in the past few weeks (Sora). In fact, I would say that there are too many players and teams in the scene right now, so we should keep an eye out for more going down. There are how many teams in KR atm? 15 (incl. Axiom and EG-TL)? Too many for the scene to sustain. If STX and WJS and maybe Prime go down, then we'll be looking at a much more sustainable 12.

where is everyone getting that WJS is going down????? Haven't read anything about it.


Woongjin Holdings Co is doing really bad at the moment. Arguably worse than STX (probably around as bad) the last time I researched their situations. Also in lots of debt and one of their subsidiaries filed for bankruptcy, iirc.
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 30 2013 02:55 GMT
#666
On August 30 2013 11:46 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 11:42 babylon wrote:
On August 30 2013 10:36 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:20 EleanorRIgby wrote:
im honestly surprised more old broodwar players haven't retired

I think that's because very few young kids will play sc2 in Korea right now. Not many new blood, and competition level is low, so those older gamers can still hang around.

There's plenty of new blood in SC2 atm. Hell, one just broke out in the past few weeks (Sora). In fact, I would say that there are too many players and teams in the scene right now, so we should keep an eye out for more going down. There are how many teams in KR atm? 15 (incl. Axiom and EG-TL)? Too many for the scene to sustain. If STX and WJS and maybe Prime go down, then we'll be looking at a much more sustainable 12.

where is everyone getting that WJS is going down????? Haven't read anything about it.

Sorry for the bad news. :x

In addition to everything lichter said, WJ is also dealing with financial fraud: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/yonhap-news-agency/130807/woongjin-group-chief-stand-trial-over-massive-financial-fr-0
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
August 30 2013 02:59 GMT
#667
The greatest BW warrior, from silver to gold, from King Kong to 2-time champ, no one electrified crowds like he did in the twilight of professional Brood War. I salute you, Almighty. You took the darkest of days and lit them blindingly bright with your radiant energy.
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Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
August 30 2013 03:05 GMT
#668
On August 30 2013 11:42 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 10:36 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:20 EleanorRIgby wrote:
im honestly surprised more old broodwar players haven't retired

I think that's because very few young kids will play sc2 in Korea right now. Not many new blood, and competition level is low, so those older gamers can still hang around.

There's plenty of new blood in SC2 atm. Hell, one just broke out in the past few weeks (Sora). In fact, I would say that there are too many players and teams in the scene right now, so we should keep an eye out for more going down. There are how many teams in KR atm? 15 (incl. Axiom and EG-TL)? Too many for the scene to sustain. If STX and WJS and maybe Prime go down, then we'll be looking at a much more sustainable 12.


Looks like you don't know how many kids were trying to get into pro teams back in bw days. Number of teams doesn't exactly reflect the talent pool from amateur kids.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
August 30 2013 03:09 GMT
#669
oh my god

i was really hoping he would stay and pick up a golden mouse :X

stork it's all on you
can i get my estro logo back pls
Aeleron
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia71 Posts
August 30 2013 03:10 GMT
#670
Wouldn't Jangbi be the first BW champion to compete in SSL/SRT? (if he does)
attackbird
Profile Joined January 2013
8 Posts
August 30 2013 03:13 GMT
#671
As a casual esport viewer and zerg player I was loyal to the dong in bw. Little by little however I became aware of Jangbi and fell in love with his smart, creative and exciting play. I saw him not as a tyrant like jaedong or an unimpressed God like flash, but as a humble man with a playful and kind spirit, who possessed the power to destroy an empire or shake the heavens above.

I began to follow this fearless protoss player on his journey. I watched him stumble, and being the flawed human I am, began to wonder if he was really the hero I imagined. With the emergence of sc2 it appeared the end of bw was nearing. The statues of legends were being placed in the sc pantheon while the bw warriors were preparing for their final battles. Who would emerge the ultimate champion, who would write the last chapter, and would the forces of good or the forces of evil prevail?

Jaedong and flash would shrug off their defeats, and it appeared that a jester, a destructive terrorist with no concept of reality, would be the last player standing. But Jangbi was on a mission. Not driven by power or greed but by the desire to show the people that good exists, and that in the end, it will triumph. Jangbi fought his way to the finals, destroying those who stood in the way of true justice. When he ran out of energy to storm, it seemed the units themselves came to life and fought for him. Jangbi became champion, and when the forces of evil rearmed for the following season, Jangbi would defeat them again in even more impressive fashion.

Following the final starleagues, I was reluctant to join the warriors of bw as they moved into the sc2 realm, but I would not abandon Jangbi as he adjusted to the new world. I watched him develop and once again began to see shimmers of the almighty forces within him. I was excited to see his current form, to see if he would dominate yet again.

And so I was saddened and confused by his retirement on the eve of a prestigious tournament. Jangbi's retirement makes me feel alone and lost in the land of esports. It makes me question: how am I still going to be way to into this stuff? And: Why would he leave us now?

First off, it's a boss move and Jangbi's a total boss, but it's also because like obi-wan kenobi, Jangbi is not consumed by power and recognition but by his passion to do the right thing. Jangbi accomplished his mission and fulfilled his legacy. The battle between good and evil will always rage on, and Jangbi realizes its time for him to step aside. Jangbi would not leave us if he thought justice was in jeopardy, and so his departure should bring us fans who feel lost a little bit of comfort, and give us faith, that a new hope will emerge.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 30 2013 03:13 GMT
#672
On August 30 2013 12:05 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 11:42 babylon wrote:
On August 30 2013 10:36 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:20 EleanorRIgby wrote:
im honestly surprised more old broodwar players haven't retired

I think that's because very few young kids will play sc2 in Korea right now. Not many new blood, and competition level is low, so those older gamers can still hang around.

There's plenty of new blood in SC2 atm. Hell, one just broke out in the past few weeks (Sora). In fact, I would say that there are too many players and teams in the scene right now, so we should keep an eye out for more going down. There are how many teams in KR atm? 15 (incl. Axiom and EG-TL)? Too many for the scene to sustain. If STX and WJS and maybe Prime go down, then we'll be looking at a much more sustainable 12.


Looks like you don't know how many kids were trying to get into pro teams back in bw days. Number of teams doesn't exactly reflect the talent pool from amateur kids.

Looks like you haven't followed a scene with a truly dried up talent pool before. Just because the number's lower than it was in BW days doesn't mean it's anywhere close to drying up.
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-30 03:26:06
August 30 2013 03:15 GMT
#673
On August 30 2013 12:10 Aeleron wrote:
Wouldn't Jangbi be the first BW champion to compete in SSL/SRT? (if he does)


Reach has competed in one I think, none of the recent champions have for sure (since they were all kespa contracted), but some of the older champs have probably competed (dunno if Garimto has competed, but he'd be a possibility, basically look for people from that kinda of era, pre oov/nada).

edit: apparently Anytime has also competed in an SRT, reach was only in some kind of legends match though.
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
jinsanity
Profile Joined July 2012
United States137 Posts
August 30 2013 03:57 GMT
#674
guess he thought sc2 sucks T.T
r u ez?
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
August 30 2013 04:05 GMT
#675
Wow, this is crazy. Jangbi has been a monster in Proleague for SC2. Maybe not up to his tip top form, but still a beast. I guess he just wasn't enjoying it anymore.
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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
August 30 2013 05:01 GMT
#676
Title says: Jangbi retires
To me, what it really means: more possible talent incoming to SOSPA!

Sorry to those that enjoyed his SC2 games, but I'm sure it's fairly exciting news to some of us. I hear Jaehoon is out as well? Prospect of two of my favourite Protosses possibly playing BW again: sweet!
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
August 30 2013 05:13 GMT
#677
On August 30 2013 14:01 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Title says: Jangbi retires
To me, what it really means: more possible talent incoming to SOSPA!

Sorry to those that enjoyed his SC2 games, but I'm sure it's fairly exciting news to some of us. I hear Jaehoon is out as well? Prospect of two of my favourite Protosses possibly playing BW again: sweet!

more jaehoon recalls :3
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
August 30 2013 05:35 GMT
#678
On August 30 2013 11:42 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 10:36 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:20 EleanorRIgby wrote:
im honestly surprised more old broodwar players haven't retired

I think that's because very few young kids will play sc2 in Korea right now. Not many new blood, and competition level is low, so those older gamers can still hang around.

There's plenty of new blood in SC2 atm. Hell, one just broke out in the past few weeks (Sora). In fact, I would say that there are too many players and teams in the scene right now, so we should keep an eye out for more going down. There are how many teams in KR atm? 15 (incl. Axiom and EG-TL)? Too many for the scene to sustain. If STX and WJS and maybe Prime go down, then we'll be looking at a much more sustainable 12.


Yes, there are many new people in SC2. Of course. But no one can match the popularity and influences of the old BW big names.
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
August 30 2013 06:12 GMT
#679
On August 30 2013 00:45 DiMano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 00:42 _Animus_ wrote:
When i saw this thread in the sidebar i was like slaped right in the face.
Jangbi who become my very first favorite player in the Jin Air OSL, the man who made the best OSL final ive ever seen. There is no such feeling delivered by any BW player or game to me before the rise of his legend.

Sadly this was only for a short time, cuz sc2 ruined it, now its even more sad cuz he is retiring.
What a career he couldve had if this shitty sc2 wasnt killed BW.

Bows to you almighty hero, the greatest of them all!

I have hope that he will join Sospa scene, cuz in an interview after the last BW OSL he said that BW is sacred thing for him. A game that has inspired him to achieve what he is known for, to be the champion. He said also that he will play BW even if there is no one still playing it.
Much love for you JangBang, hope to see you soon in BW!

Oh god it is not SC2 what ruined it is the shift of popularity to LoL and even WoT and lack of SC2 leagues in korea stop being stupid BW fans I like BW and SC2 and I will never say bad things about these games.


just admit that exeprienced bw players do not really enjoy sc2. goddamn it its not FUN goddamn it
Life is just life
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 30 2013 06:31 GMT
#680
On August 30 2013 11:59 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
The greatest BW warrior, from silver to gold, from King Kong to 2-time champ, no one electrified crowds like he did in the twilight of professional Brood War. I salute you, Almighty. You took the darkest of days and lit them blindingly bright with your radiant energy.

You are a poet.
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