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Map: (2)Muspelheim - BW conversion

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-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 18:05:50
April 04 2013 17:56 GMT
#1
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Ok, time for an actual serious map now...

Finished another entry in my series of SC2 maps converted to BW - this one is based on ESV Muspelheim by Jacky (used in GSTL and NASL).

The map replicates the original's line of sight blockers using vision blocking tiles + sprites for decoration (credit to Freakling for this idea - see Pyrolysis). Changes made to the original include removing gas at the closest expo, narrowing the corner expos' ramps to allow for lurker defense, and enlarging the center plateau's ramps to compensate for bad BW AI and allow for easier army movement.

Download link (broodwarmaps.net)


Previous SC2 to BW converted maps:
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(2)Xel'naga Caverns
(4)Tal'darim Altar
(2)Bel'shir Beach (Winter)
(2)Cloud Kingdom
vibeo gane,
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
April 04 2013 18:01 GMT
#2
Include in game screen shots of the Vision blockers in action you can prolly just steal Pyrolysis' pictures...just to demonstrate the effect
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
April 04 2013 19:03 GMT
#3
I'm also very curious about the vision blockers, screenshots would be much appreciated!

Why was the 3rd's gas removed? That seems kinda unusual (especially as there seems to be an other gas expo just as close) Was there some feedback of imbalance during testing, or is it maybe just to avoid a 3-base standoff with the base layout very similar to that of Fighting Spirit?

Looks nice and gritty all in all! I like the use of space, there seems to be a nice balance between spacious and strategically important terrain. It would be cool if you could get some decent players to playtest the maps (maybe collaborate with an amateur league?) and post reps alongside the maps.
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
April 04 2013 20:31 GMT
#4
I can't see anything the picture is to dark -.-
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
April 04 2013 21:08 GMT
#5
This looks so awesome! I love the tile set. I think I'm in favor of having the third be mineral only. Considering the concentration of all the gas expansions, this helps keep things spread out.
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 04 2013 23:07 GMT
#6
Vision blocker seem to work fine for the most time. Occasionally there's a long delay before the vision on the other side disappears though, while other times it'll disappear instantly.

Still a really cool map!

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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
April 04 2013 23:39 GMT
#7
wow that actually looks pretty cool, like a dark scary forrest in a horror movie
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 04 2013 23:56 GMT
#8
It's crazy that after Monty Hall, Triathlon, Devil's Forest et cetera there are still new interesting map mechanics to be added! Those vision blockers look awesome.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10150 Posts
April 05 2013 01:02 GMT
#9
really good map! :D
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
April 05 2013 02:00 GMT
#10
This is awesome!
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
April 05 2013 03:39 GMT
#11
I think that P >>>>> Z on this map.
Looks like a good map otherwise !
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
April 05 2013 05:21 GMT
#12
On April 05 2013 08:07 KristofferAG wrote:
Vision blocker seem to work fine for the most time. Occasionally there's a long delay before the vision on the other side disappears though, while other times it'll disappear instantly.

Still a really cool map!

[image loading]
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Nice!
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 05 2013 07:18 GMT
#13
Awesome, always neat to see sc2->BW ports!~

It probably takes time, but would Bel'shir vestige be under any consideration as a convertible map? I've played some really good games on that map and would love to see how it works with BW ^^
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traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
April 05 2013 07:42 GMT
#14
It has 3 terrain levels correct? Mappers prefer not wokring in 3 terrain levels because 1 of them will always be ugly, and only some tilesets have them. Also I can't see an easy third on that map.
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 05 2013 07:56 GMT
#15
On April 05 2013 16:42 traceurling wrote:
It has 3 terrain levels correct? Mappers prefer not wokring in 3 terrain levels because 1 of them will always be ugly, and only some tilesets have them. Also I can't see an easy third on that map.

Mineral only bases are fairly easy to take and defend, it seems.q
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Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
April 05 2013 10:24 GMT
#16
On April 05 2013 08:07 KristofferAG wrote:
Vision blocker seem to work fine for the most time. Occasionally there's a long delay before the vision on the other side disappears though, while other times it'll disappear instantly.[...]


Fog of war updating in BW works in fixed intervals. It's the same when units move down a ramp.


Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 10:31:04
April 05 2013 10:26 GMT
#17
On April 05 2013 16:42 traceurling wrote:
It has 3 terrain levels correct? Mappers prefer not working in 3 terrain levels because 1 of them will always be ugly, and only some tilesets have them. Also I can't see an easy third on that map.


You can always make a space platform map, with 3 fully functional terrain levels. Only some ramp angles are tricky/ugly to do.

EDIT: Had a look at the suggestion, and it would definitely require space platform terrain for a proper remake, but other that that it should make a fine BW map. I guess you'd have to rename it "Space Vestige" though
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
April 05 2013 16:42 GMT
#18
On April 05 2013 19:26 Freakling wrote:
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On April 05 2013 16:42 traceurling wrote:
It has 3 terrain levels correct? Mappers prefer not working in 3 terrain levels because 1 of them will always be ugly, and only some tilesets have them. Also I can't see an easy third on that map.


You can always make a space platform map, with 3 fully functional terrain levels. Only some ramp angles are tricky/ugly to do.

EDIT: Had a look at the suggestion, and it would definitely require space platform terrain for a proper remake, but other that that it should make a fine BW map. I guess you'd have to rename it "Space Vestige" though

Which base would you choke up for zergs to take as the 3rd?
vibeo gane,
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 05 2013 17:31 GMT
#19
cool map! Nice tileset as well although it does seem a bit dark on my monitor lol.
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traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
April 05 2013 17:39 GMT
#20
Well, that's ash world for you...
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
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