On July 12 2012 20:11 Fleuria wrote: He's one of those people that say bullshit like this for fame, all for his own gain, if he had any real passion he would invested in the bw scene when it was dying and they made the decision to swap, if he sponsored the next 3 osls or something it wouldn't have died but jk all talk no game.
I wasn't going to respond since I'm coughing green stuff and all that crap but some of you need to reread the article. Perhaps it wasn't clear before but now I'm setting it straight. ABC-Talk is a section written by DES staff who hear about "insider" news/gossip that they can't give official details about.
In this case, the DES staff who wrote this article heard about CEO X from a Kespa insider. According to the author of the article anyway. So no, this isn't some kind of attempt at fame/PR by the CEO. -_-
It won't take a genius to figure out who the guy is... it already states he runs a highly successful lan cafe, won't take to long before the scene finds out who the guy is, this is the internet you know.
end of the day, if he wanted to save broodwar he would of done it when OSL was struggling for a sponsor and for other support.
Really, he runs a highly successful lan cafe? Where did you hear that from? -_-
Ok, I'll give my interpretation of what the article is trying to say. A CEO tried to exchange his sponsorship in exchange of "long term" guanrantees that bw wouldn't be fazed out. Apparently that did not work, which shows that the "impossible to find sponsorship for bw" talk was mayyyybe not that true, and that the sc2 transition happened for more complicated reasons than that. As this did not work, a gossip journalist gives the info. I don't know how you can get mad at the guy for ffree advertising or not stepping up earlier, what he tried to do seems pretty clear and understandable.
So what? Broodwar could've survived if it had debased itself to becoming the pet charity of some nostalgic multi-millionaire? Where was this guy when MBCGame was struggling to find a MSL sponsor? Where was he when eSTRO disbanded?
Honestly this shouldn't come as a surprise. There's a lot of sad and angry Broodwar fans amongst us poor people, it makes sense it's the same for rich Broodwar fans. But words are cheap. The suggestion of this article is that "Broodwar could survive if it wasn't switching to SC2", but I call bullshit on that. MBC didn't disband MBCGame because they hated SC2. I seriously doubt Wemade pulled their sponsorship because they didn't want to sponsor SC2 either. What I'm hearing from this article is that there's a passionate CEO who would've wanted to support Broodwar. What I'm not hearing is that there's a business-savy CEO who thinks sponsoring Broodwar is going to help his company. I don't think there's any question that if KeSPA wasn't 'forcing' the switch to SC2, Broodwar would've continued to muddle on. But it would've done so as a shadow of its former self.
I can understand that this guy wants to vent his frustration and anger at seeing something he loves end. But nostalgia and charity is not something to base an industry on. Imo it would be nothing short of selfish and irresponsible to ask progamers to throw away their youth on a scene dependant on the whims of a bunch of rich benefactors.
On July 12 2012 21:03 nadafanboy42 wrote: So what? Broodwar could've survived if it had debased itself to becoming the pet charity of some nostalgic multi-millionaire? Where was this guy when MBCGame was struggling to find a MSL sponsor? Where was he when eSTRO disbanded?
Honestly this shouldn't come as a surprise. There's a lot of sad and angry Broodwar fans amongst us poor people, it makes sense it's the same for rich Broodwar fans. But words are cheap. The suggestion of this article is that "Broodwar could survive if it wasn't switching to SC2", but I call bullshit on that. MBC didn't disband MBCGame because they hated SC2. I seriously doubt Wemade pulled their sponsorship because they didn't want to sponsor SC2 either. What I'm hearing from this article is that there's a passionate CEO who would've wanted to support Broodwar. What I'm not hearing is that there's a business-savy CEO who thinks sponsoring Broodwar is going to help his company. I don't think there's any question that if KeSPA wasn't 'forcing' the switch to SC2, Broodwar would've continued to muddle on. But it would've done so as a shadow of its former self.
I can understand that this guy wants to vent his frustration and anger at seeing something he loves end. But nostalgia and charity is not something to base an industry on. Imo it would be nothing short of selfish and irresponsible to ask progamers to throw away their youth on a scene dependant on the whims of a bunch of rich benefactors.
No other companies would have killed a product that they have been created for a life time that is supposed to last only 5 years at maximum to be still popular at large and still running competitions in a country . Blizzard and Co did it and I blame them too for the murder of broodwar thanks to them suing poor mbcgame who is already running on low funds and also ogn.There is no other way of saying this but hey thanks for suing everything that is still giving you free promotion of a game that is already expired beyond it's designated life cycle .They asked for this in order to ensure that their new game becomes the only game that is popular in korea. No one else is to be blame except blizzard for all of this .
On July 12 2012 21:03 nadafanboy42 wrote: So what? Broodwar could've survived if it had debased itself to becoming the pet charity of some nostalgic multi-millionaire? Where was this guy when MBCGame was struggling to find a MSL sponsor? Where was he when eSTRO disbanded?
Honestly this shouldn't come as a surprise. There's a lot of sad and angry Broodwar fans amongst us poor people, it makes sense it's the same for rich Broodwar fans. But words are cheap. The suggestion of this article is that "Broodwar could survive if it wasn't switching to SC2", but I call bullshit on that. MBC didn't disband MBCGame because they hated SC2. I seriously doubt Wemade pulled their sponsorship because they didn't want to sponsor SC2 either. What I'm hearing from this article is that there's a passionate CEO who would've wanted to support Broodwar. What I'm not hearing is that there's a business-savy CEO who thinks sponsoring Broodwar is going to help his company. I don't think there's any question that if KeSPA wasn't 'forcing' the switch to SC2, Broodwar would've continued to muddle on. But it would've done so as a shadow of its former self.
I can understand that this guy wants to vent his frustration and anger at seeing something he loves end. But nostalgia and charity is not something to base an industry on. Imo it would be nothing short of selfish and irresponsible to ask progamers to throw away their youth on a scene dependant on the whims of a bunch of rich benefactors.
No other companies would have killed a product that they have been created for a life time that is supposed to last only 5 years at maximum to be still popular at large and still running competitions in a country . Blizzard and Co did it and I blame them too for the murder of broodwar thanks to them suing poor mbcgame who is already running on low funds and ogn . No one else is to be blame except blizzard for all of this .
Well, I mean they basically shifted support to SC2, they didn't actively kill BW, it died on its own due to alot of external events. Blizz didn't make MSL go away, blizz didn't make the match fixing scandal, blizz didn't divert away sponsors and corporate interest (in many ways other games - indirect competitors like LoL also contributed). Be reasonable with the criticism, Blizzard has alot to blame and is an easy target, but be rational about it.
On July 12 2012 21:03 nadafanboy42 wrote: So what? Broodwar could've survived if it had debased itself to becoming the pet charity of some nostalgic multi-millionaire? Where was this guy when MBCGame was struggling to find a MSL sponsor? Where was he when eSTRO disbanded?
Honestly this shouldn't come as a surprise. There's a lot of sad and angry Broodwar fans amongst us poor people, it makes sense it's the same for rich Broodwar fans. But words are cheap. The suggestion of this article is that "Broodwar could survive if it wasn't switching to SC2", but I call bullshit on that. MBC didn't disband MBCGame because they hated SC2. I seriously doubt Wemade pulled their sponsorship because they didn't want to sponsor SC2 either. What I'm hearing from this article is that there's a passionate CEO who would've wanted to support Broodwar. What I'm not hearing is that there's a business-savy CEO who thinks sponsoring Broodwar is going to help his company. I don't think there's any question that if KeSPA wasn't 'forcing' the switch to SC2, Broodwar would've continued to muddle on. But it would've done so as a shadow of its former self.
I can understand that this guy wants to vent his frustration and anger at seeing something he loves end. But nostalgia and charity is not something to base an industry on. Imo it would be nothing short of selfish and irresponsible to ask progamers to throw away their youth on a scene dependant on the whims of a bunch of rich benefactors.
No other companies would have killed a product that they have been created for a life time that is supposed to last only 5 years at maximum to be still popular at large and still running competitions in a country
Erm basically the entire tech industry is like this, rolling out new versions that are mild improvements (some times not even) at more expensive prices, look at apple =_= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence And they will do this and keep doing it because the financial economy where consumers are ignorant and susceptible to marketing will always fall for it.
I admit an am no BW veteran (got into starcraft when SC2 came out), but i like watching BW matches. My problem with this article is that he could have sponsored this last OSL to show that he cared.
And what did he do? Nothing..... Sponsoring one OSL didn't mean he would be sponsoring the SC2 scene.
On July 12 2012 21:03 nadafanboy42 wrote: So what? Broodwar could've survived if it had debased itself to becoming the pet charity of some nostalgic multi-millionaire? Where was this guy when MBCGame was struggling to find a MSL sponsor? Where was he when eSTRO disbanded?
Honestly this shouldn't come as a surprise. There's a lot of sad and angry Broodwar fans amongst us poor people, it makes sense it's the same for rich Broodwar fans. But words are cheap. The suggestion of this article is that "Broodwar could survive if it wasn't switching to SC2", but I call bullshit on that. MBC didn't disband MBCGame because they hated SC2. I seriously doubt Wemade pulled their sponsorship because they didn't want to sponsor SC2 either. What I'm hearing from this article is that there's a passionate CEO who would've wanted to support Broodwar. What I'm not hearing is that there's a business-savy CEO who thinks sponsoring Broodwar is going to help his company. I don't think there's any question that if KeSPA wasn't 'forcing' the switch to SC2, Broodwar would've continued to muddle on. But it would've done so as a shadow of its former self.
I can understand that this guy wants to vent his frustration and anger at seeing something he loves end. But nostalgia and charity is not something to base an industry on. Imo it would be nothing short of selfish and irresponsible to ask progamers to throw away their youth on a scene dependant on the whims of a bunch of rich benefactors.
No other companies would have killed a product that they have been created for a life time that is supposed to last only 5 years at maximum to be still popular at large and still running competitions in a country
Erm basically the entire tech industry is like this, rolling out new versions that are mild improvements (some times not even) at more expensive prices, look at apple =_= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence And they will do this and keep doing it because the financial economy where consumers are ignorant and susceptible to marketing will always fall for it.
Well since we are discussing business here I have a great counter example to this anyway and it broodwar should have gone the same way and have gone open source.
On July 12 2012 21:03 nadafanboy42 wrote: So what? Broodwar could've survived if it had debased itself to becoming the pet charity of some nostalgic multi-millionaire? Where was this guy when MBCGame was struggling to find a MSL sponsor? Where was he when eSTRO disbanded?
Honestly this shouldn't come as a surprise. There's a lot of sad and angry Broodwar fans amongst us poor people, it makes sense it's the same for rich Broodwar fans. But words are cheap. The suggestion of this article is that "Broodwar could survive if it wasn't switching to SC2", but I call bullshit on that. MBC didn't disband MBCGame because they hated SC2. I seriously doubt Wemade pulled their sponsorship because they didn't want to sponsor SC2 either. What I'm hearing from this article is that there's a passionate CEO who would've wanted to support Broodwar. What I'm not hearing is that there's a business-savy CEO who thinks sponsoring Broodwar is going to help his company. I don't think there's any question that if KeSPA wasn't 'forcing' the switch to SC2, Broodwar would've continued to muddle on. But it would've done so as a shadow of its former self.
I can understand that this guy wants to vent his frustration and anger at seeing something he loves end. But nostalgia and charity is not something to base an industry on. Imo it would be nothing short of selfish and irresponsible to ask progamers to throw away their youth on a scene dependant on the whims of a bunch of rich benefactors.
No other companies would have killed a product that they have been created for a life time that is supposed to last only 5 years at maximum to be still popular at large and still running competitions in a country . Blizzard and Co did it and I blame them too for the murder of broodwar thanks to them suing poor mbcgame who is already running on low funds and ogn . No one else is to be blame except blizzard for all of this .
Well, I mean they basically shifted support to SC2, they didn't actively kill BW, it died on its own due to alot of external events. Blizz didn't make MSL go away, blizz didn't make the match fixing scandal, blizz didn't divert away sponsors and corporate interest (in many ways other games - indirect competitors like LoL also contributed). Be reasonable with the criticism, Blizzard has alot to blame and is an easy target, but be rational about it.
It's about half match-fixing, half Blizzard lawsuits. So yeah, while Blizzard is not TOTALLY at fault, to say that it had no part in killing BW is just being naive.
On July 12 2012 21:03 nadafanboy42 wrote: So what? Broodwar could've survived if it had debased itself to becoming the pet charity of some nostalgic multi-millionaire? Where was this guy when MBCGame was struggling to find a MSL sponsor? Where was he when eSTRO disbanded?
Honestly this shouldn't come as a surprise. There's a lot of sad and angry Broodwar fans amongst us poor people, it makes sense it's the same for rich Broodwar fans. But words are cheap. The suggestion of this article is that "Broodwar could survive if it wasn't switching to SC2", but I call bullshit on that. MBC didn't disband MBCGame because they hated SC2. I seriously doubt Wemade pulled their sponsorship because they didn't want to sponsor SC2 either. What I'm hearing from this article is that there's a passionate CEO who would've wanted to support Broodwar. What I'm not hearing is that there's a business-savy CEO who thinks sponsoring Broodwar is going to help his company. I don't think there's any question that if KeSPA wasn't 'forcing' the switch to SC2, Broodwar would've continued to muddle on. But it would've done so as a shadow of its former self.
I can understand that this guy wants to vent his frustration and anger at seeing something he loves end. But nostalgia and charity is not something to base an industry on. Imo it would be nothing short of selfish and irresponsible to ask progamers to throw away their youth on a scene dependant on the whims of a bunch of rich benefactors.
No other companies would have killed a product that they have been created for a life time that is supposed to last only 5 years at maximum to be still popular at large and still running competitions in a country . Blizzard and Co did it and I blame them too for the murder of broodwar thanks to them suing poor mbcgame who is already running on low funds and ogn . No one else is to be blame except blizzard for all of this .
Well, I mean they basically shifted support to SC2, they didn't actively kill BW, it died on its own due to alot of external events. Blizz didn't make MSL go away, blizz didn't make the match fixing scandal, blizz didn't divert away sponsors and corporate interest (in many ways other games - indirect competitors like LoL also contributed). Be reasonable with the criticism, Blizzard has alot to blame and is an easy target, but be rational about it.
It's about half match-fixing, half Blizzard lawsuits. So yeah, while Blizzard is not TOTALLY at fault, to say that it had no part in killing BW is just being naive.
Blizzard lawsuits were over profits against Kespa, how about this, what if Kespa had agreed to let blizzard have broadcasting profit margins, then blizzard supported the whole BW scene right there? Also besides, Blizzard was going to push the newer product regardless, I'm not defending it from a BW fan perspective, just saying that it was going to happen.
It would be nice if he'd invest in BW anyways, such as in grassroots weekend lans or something, but it sounds he like might be just as sad and disillusioned as the rest of us, so maybe not. Anyways, if he's a CEO he doesn't have the right to spend the money however he wants to, so he'd have to generate some kind of ROI. I'm glad there are fans who won't stand for anything but Broodwar--it gives me hope that we'll continue to have something in the absence of Kespa, whether this guy is involved or not.
On July 12 2012 21:03 nadafanboy42 wrote: So what? Broodwar could've survived if it had debased itself to becoming the pet charity of some nostalgic multi-millionaire? Where was this guy when MBCGame was struggling to find a MSL sponsor? Where was he when eSTRO disbanded?
Honestly this shouldn't come as a surprise. There's a lot of sad and angry Broodwar fans amongst us poor people, it makes sense it's the same for rich Broodwar fans. But words are cheap. The suggestion of this article is that "Broodwar could survive if it wasn't switching to SC2", but I call bullshit on that. MBC didn't disband MBCGame because they hated SC2. I seriously doubt Wemade pulled their sponsorship because they didn't want to sponsor SC2 either. What I'm hearing from this article is that there's a passionate CEO who would've wanted to support Broodwar. What I'm not hearing is that there's a business-savy CEO who thinks sponsoring Broodwar is going to help his company. I don't think there's any question that if KeSPA wasn't 'forcing' the switch to SC2, Broodwar would've continued to muddle on. But it would've done so as a shadow of its former self.
I can understand that this guy wants to vent his frustration and anger at seeing something he loves end. But nostalgia and charity is not something to base an industry on. Imo it would be nothing short of selfish and irresponsible to ask progamers to throw away their youth on a scene dependant on the whims of a bunch of rich benefactors.
No other companies would have killed a product that they have been created for a life time that is supposed to last only 5 years at maximum to be still popular at large and still running competitions in a country . Blizzard and Co did it and I blame them too for the murder of broodwar thanks to them suing poor mbcgame who is already running on low funds and ogn . No one else is to be blame except blizzard for all of this .
Well, I mean they basically shifted support to SC2, they didn't actively kill BW, it died on its own due to alot of external events. Blizz didn't make MSL go away, blizz didn't make the match fixing scandal, blizz didn't divert away sponsors and corporate interest (in many ways other games - indirect competitors like LoL also contributed). Be reasonable with the criticism, Blizzard has alot to blame and is an easy target, but be rational about it.
It's about half match-fixing, half Blizzard lawsuits. So yeah, while Blizzard is not TOTALLY at fault, to say that it had no part in killing BW is just being naive.
Blizzard lawsuits were over profits against Kespa, how about this, what if Kespa had agreed to let blizzard have broadcasting profit margins, then blizzard supported the whole BW scene right there? Also besides, Blizzard was going to push the newer product regardless, I'm not defending it from a BW fan perspective, just saying that it was going to happen.
I knew it was going to happen anyway but that doesn't make me any less upset at Blizzard. Should it?
On July 12 2012 21:03 nadafanboy42 wrote: So what? Broodwar could've survived if it had debased itself to becoming the pet charity of some nostalgic multi-millionaire? Where was this guy when MBCGame was struggling to find a MSL sponsor? Where was he when eSTRO disbanded?
Honestly this shouldn't come as a surprise. There's a lot of sad and angry Broodwar fans amongst us poor people, it makes sense it's the same for rich Broodwar fans. But words are cheap. The suggestion of this article is that "Broodwar could survive if it wasn't switching to SC2", but I call bullshit on that. MBC didn't disband MBCGame because they hated SC2. I seriously doubt Wemade pulled their sponsorship because they didn't want to sponsor SC2 either. What I'm hearing from this article is that there's a passionate CEO who would've wanted to support Broodwar. What I'm not hearing is that there's a business-savy CEO who thinks sponsoring Broodwar is going to help his company. I don't think there's any question that if KeSPA wasn't 'forcing' the switch to SC2, Broodwar would've continued to muddle on. But it would've done so as a shadow of its former self.
I can understand that this guy wants to vent his frustration and anger at seeing something he loves end. But nostalgia and charity is not something to base an industry on. Imo it would be nothing short of selfish and irresponsible to ask progamers to throw away their youth on a scene dependant on the whims of a bunch of rich benefactors.
No other companies would have killed a product that they have been created for a life time that is supposed to last only 5 years at maximum to be still popular at large and still running competitions in a country . Blizzard and Co did it and I blame them too for the murder of broodwar thanks to them suing poor mbcgame who is already running on low funds and ogn . No one else is to be blame except blizzard for all of this .
Well, I mean they basically shifted support to SC2, they didn't actively kill BW, it died on its own due to alot of external events. Blizz didn't make MSL go away, blizz didn't make the match fixing scandal, blizz didn't divert away sponsors and corporate interest (in many ways other games - indirect competitors like LoL also contributed). Be reasonable with the criticism, Blizzard has alot to blame and is an easy target, but be rational about it.
It's about half match-fixing, half Blizzard lawsuits. So yeah, while Blizzard is not TOTALLY at fault, to say that it had no part in killing BW is just being naive.
Blizzard lawsuits were over profits against Kespa, how about this, what if Kespa had agreed to let blizzard have broadcasting profit margins, then blizzard supported the whole BW scene right there? Also besides, Blizzard was going to push the newer product regardless, I'm not defending it from a BW fan perspective, just saying that it was going to happen.
I knew it was going to happen anyway but that doesn't make me any less upset at Blizzard. Should it?
Well, it's fine to be upset, I'm upset too, want a hug?
On July 12 2012 21:03 nadafanboy42 wrote: So what? Broodwar could've survived if it had debased itself to becoming the pet charity of some nostalgic multi-millionaire? Where was this guy when MBCGame was struggling to find a MSL sponsor? Where was he when eSTRO disbanded?
Honestly this shouldn't come as a surprise. There's a lot of sad and angry Broodwar fans amongst us poor people, it makes sense it's the same for rich Broodwar fans. But words are cheap. The suggestion of this article is that "Broodwar could survive if it wasn't switching to SC2", but I call bullshit on that. MBC didn't disband MBCGame because they hated SC2. I seriously doubt Wemade pulled their sponsorship because they didn't want to sponsor SC2 either. What I'm hearing from this article is that there's a passionate CEO who would've wanted to support Broodwar. What I'm not hearing is that there's a business-savy CEO who thinks sponsoring Broodwar is going to help his company. I don't think there's any question that if KeSPA wasn't 'forcing' the switch to SC2, Broodwar would've continued to muddle on. But it would've done so as a shadow of its former self.
I can understand that this guy wants to vent his frustration and anger at seeing something he loves end. But nostalgia and charity is not something to base an industry on. Imo it would be nothing short of selfish and irresponsible to ask progamers to throw away their youth on a scene dependant on the whims of a bunch of rich benefactors.
No other companies would have killed a product that they have been created for a life time that is supposed to last only 5 years at maximum to be still popular at large and still running competitions in a country . Blizzard and Co did it and I blame them too for the murder of broodwar thanks to them suing poor mbcgame who is already running on low funds and ogn . No one else is to be blame except blizzard for all of this .
Well, I mean they basically shifted support to SC2, they didn't actively kill BW, it died on its own due to alot of external events. Blizz didn't make MSL go away, blizz didn't make the match fixing scandal, blizz didn't divert away sponsors and corporate interest (in many ways other games - indirect competitors like LoL also contributed). Be reasonable with the criticism, Blizzard has alot to blame and is an easy target, but be rational about it.
It's about half match-fixing, half Blizzard lawsuits. So yeah, while Blizzard is not TOTALLY at fault, to say that it had no part in killing BW is just being naive.
Blizzard lawsuits were over profits against Kespa, how about this, what if Kespa had agreed to let blizzard have broadcasting profit margins, then blizzard supported the whole BW scene right there? Also besides, Blizzard was going to push the newer product regardless, I'm not defending it from a BW fan perspective, just saying that it was going to happen.
I knew it was going to happen anyway but that doesn't make me any less upset at Blizzard. Should it?
Well, it's fine to be upset, I'm upset too, want a hug?
Even if they pumped BW back with tournaments, doubt any of the current programers would risk or abandon their currently salary playing SC2. It would be too unstable for BW to be brought back imo
"Under these conditions, there is news that one company owner is questioning why BW leagues are being abolished. This CEO, who once met up with Kespa to discuss the founding of Team 8, has a tremendous love for BW. He has been hooked on BW since his school days. The company that he runs even has in-house PC Bangs to allow staff members to play games during their breaks. There is no SC2 installed on those PCs, only BW. Isn't this CEO's love for BW really immense?"
That statement got to me a bit. There is only BW installed on them. Well give someone only one choice it's more obvious what they'll play. I disagree with that course even if it is BW.
On July 12 2012 21:03 nadafanboy42 wrote: So what? Broodwar could've survived if it had debased itself to becoming the pet charity of some nostalgic multi-millionaire? Where was this guy when MBCGame was struggling to find a MSL sponsor? Where was he when eSTRO disbanded?
Honestly this shouldn't come as a surprise. There's a lot of sad and angry Broodwar fans amongst us poor people, it makes sense it's the same for rich Broodwar fans. But words are cheap. The suggestion of this article is that "Broodwar could survive if it wasn't switching to SC2", but I call bullshit on that. MBC didn't disband MBCGame because they hated SC2. I seriously doubt Wemade pulled their sponsorship because they didn't want to sponsor SC2 either. What I'm hearing from this article is that there's a passionate CEO who would've wanted to support Broodwar. What I'm not hearing is that there's a business-savy CEO who thinks sponsoring Broodwar is going to help his company. I don't think there's any question that if KeSPA wasn't 'forcing' the switch to SC2, Broodwar would've continued to muddle on. But it would've done so as a shadow of its former self.
I can understand that this guy wants to vent his frustration and anger at seeing something he loves end. But nostalgia and charity is not something to base an industry on. Imo it would be nothing short of selfish and irresponsible to ask progamers to throw away their youth on a scene dependant on the whims of a bunch of rich benefactors.
No other companies would have killed a product that they have been created for a life time that is supposed to last only 5 years at maximum to be still popular at large and still running competitions in a country . Blizzard and Co did it and I blame them too for the murder of broodwar thanks to them suing poor mbcgame who is already running on low funds and ogn . No one else is to be blame except blizzard for all of this .
Well, I mean they basically shifted support to SC2, they didn't actively kill BW, it died on its own due to alot of external events. Blizz didn't make MSL go away, blizz didn't make the match fixing scandal, blizz didn't divert away sponsors and corporate interest (in many ways other games - indirect competitors like LoL also contributed). Be reasonable with the criticism, Blizzard has alot to blame and is an easy target, but be rational about it.
It's about half match-fixing, half Blizzard lawsuits. So yeah, while Blizzard is not TOTALLY at fault, to say that it had no part in killing BW is just being naive.
Blizzard lawsuits were over profits against Kespa, how about this, what if Kespa had agreed to let blizzard have broadcasting profit margins, then blizzard supported the whole BW scene right there? Also besides, Blizzard was going to push the newer product regardless, I'm not defending it from a BW fan perspective, just saying that it was going to happen.
I knew it was going to happen anyway but that doesn't make me any less upset at Blizzard. Should it?
Well, it's fine to be upset, I'm upset too, want a hug?
On July 12 2012 20:11 Fleuria wrote: He's one of those people that say bullshit like this for fame, all for his own gain, if he had any real passion he would invested in the bw scene when it was dying and they made the decision to swap, if he sponsored the next 3 osls or something it wouldn't have died but jk all talk no game.
I wasn't going to respond since I'm coughing green stuff and all that crap but some of you need to reread the article. Perhaps it wasn't clear before but now I'm setting it straight. ABC-Talk is a section written by DES staff who hear about "insider" news/gossip that they can't give official details about.
In this case, the DES staff who wrote this article heard about CEO X from a Kespa insider. According to the author of the article anyway. So no, this isn't some kind of attempt at fame/PR by the CEO. -_-
It won't take a genius to figure out who the guy is... it already states he runs a highly successful lan cafe, won't take to long before the scene finds out who the guy is, this is the internet you know.
end of the day, if he wanted to save broodwar he would of done it when OSL was struggling for a sponsor and for other support.
More importantly, it says he has been a fan of BW "since his school days." Even if school means college, that's damn young for a CEO. Honestly, it's so young it makes me question the veracity of this entire article.
On July 12 2012 20:11 Fleuria wrote: He's one of those people that say bullshit like this for fame, all for his own gain, if he had any real passion he would invested in the bw scene when it was dying and they made the decision to swap, if he sponsored the next 3 osls or something it wouldn't have died but jk all talk no game.
I wasn't going to respond since I'm coughing green stuff and all that crap but some of you need to reread the article. Perhaps it wasn't clear before but now I'm setting it straight. ABC-Talk is a section written by DES staff who hear about "insider" news/gossip that they can't give official details about.
In this case, the DES staff who wrote this article heard about CEO X from a Kespa insider. According to the author of the article anyway. So no, this isn't some kind of attempt at fame/PR by the CEO. -_-
It won't take a genius to figure out who the guy is... it already states he runs a highly successful lan cafe, won't take to long before the scene finds out who the guy is, this is the internet you know.
end of the day, if he wanted to save broodwar he would of done it when OSL was struggling for a sponsor and for other support.
More importantly, it says he has been a fan of BW "since his school days." Even if school means college, that's damn young for a CEO. Honestly, it's so young it makes me question the veracity of this entire article.
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