EPT[DES] Only in BW will he invest - Page 7
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
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CreationSoul
Romania231 Posts
On July 13 2012 01:58 Daozzt wrote: I believe that if this was 2006/2007, sometime before all the conflicts starting arising (matchfixing, Blizz ip rights), the CEO would invest in BW in a heartbeat. CEOs of top Korean companies and Kespa insiders probably had all the information revealed to them long ago about the inevitable SC2 switch, thus were hesitant on their sponsorships. He basically expresses that companies would sponsor BW if it was healthy and stable, but that obviously was not the case a year ago. If he sponsors team 8 and Kespa switches to SC2, he'd be fucked since he hates that game, thus he held back the money. In the end, it's all speculation with a lot of "what ifs", but it's still sad that BW had to end like this while people still had geniune love for the game. then why didn't he sponsor the OSL? it was BW only.... that is what is confuzing to me... | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On July 13 2012 04:50 CreationSoul wrote: then why didn't he sponsor the OSL? it was BW only.... that is what is confuzing to me... Probably because he wanted to sponsor for the long term, but BW was going away within a year. | ||
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CreationSoul
Romania231 Posts
On July 13 2012 05:08 jpak wrote: Probably because he wanted to sponsor for the long term, but BW was going away within a year. still doesn't make sense to me.... if he loved BW so much... it shouldn't have mattered... | ||
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amazingoopah
United States1925 Posts
 huh? If he didn't want BW to be replaced by SC2, couldn't he have marshaled every other like-minded individual to find a way to see if pro BW could still be viable for a little bit longer? The only reason that Kespa is switching to SC2 is to attempt to survive a bit longer through the foreigner scene since the korean SC2 scene is pretty much DOA at this point from everything anecdotal thing we hear. If pro SC2 weren't this popular outside Korea, I could see kespa hanging onto bw until the bitter end but it makes more sense for them to see if they can survive in some form through Blizzard/foreigner support. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On July 13 2012 05:30 CreationSoul wrote: still doesn't make sense to me.... if he loved BW so much... it shouldn't have mattered... I think his hatred of SC2 outstrips his love for BW. On July 13 2012 05:31 amazingoopah wrote: This CEO loved BW so much that he didn't lift a finger to try to save it? huh? If he didn't want BW to be replaced by SC2, couldn't he have marshaled every other like-minded individual to find a way to see if pro BW could still be viable for a little bit longer? The only reason that Kespa is switching to SC2 is to attempt to survive a bit longer through the foreigner scene since the korean SC2 scene is pretty much DOA at this point from everything anecdotal thing we hear. If pro SC2 weren't this popular outside Korea, I could see kespa hanging onto bw until the bitter end but it makes more sense for them to see if they can survive in some form through Blizzard/foreigner support. From what I see, it looks like Kespa was already set on its course to replace BW with SC2 by the time this CEO came to negotiate. If that couldn't have changed, there was no reason for him to sponsor a team only to see it play the game he doesn't like a year later. | ||
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CreationSoul
Romania231 Posts
On July 13 2012 05:36 jpak wrote: I think his hatred of SC2 outstrips his love for BW. then, in my book, he is an idiot... | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
When you take a look at how Proleague is doing right now, not so much. | ||
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Sd13
Vietnam186 Posts
Not trying to defend him but for me, since this PL started with the dual format, the quality of BW played has been downgraded significantly that I think the quality of this OSL to be affected as well with poor performance from most players in the group stage. Not only that it made me stop watching both PL and OSL since it's painful to watch such petty play from those once brilliant players but also made me think that even the players have already given up on BW, now doing it only for the sake of their job. The recent OSL semi that I luckily didn't miss is the only thing that brought me back to post here. | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
From the 3rd round of Proleague onwards, BW will be completely replaced with SC2 Surprised few have picked up on this. This is recent matter, and it appears -- as this is supposed to come through KeSPA channels -- that a decision has been made regarding no more BW in SPL round 3. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
Lets face it, Tasteless and Artosis are staying in Gom. The only way they are going to harness attentions from the foreign community is through the quality of their English casting. Unless they get Day[9] or 2GD as their ambassador, they will always be second rate relative to GSL. That leaves them the only option of digging into domestic market in which CEOs like this one won't sponsor and many fans wanting to continue the legacy of BW will be bitter enough to not tune in. I fear for the future of the organization. | ||
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ZeroChrome
Canada1001 Posts
On July 13 2012 05:30 CreationSoul wrote: still doesn't make sense to me.... if he loved BW so much... it shouldn't have mattered... It's easy to talk about what he should have done, but in reality when millions of dollars are at stake it's probably not such a simple decision for him. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On July 13 2012 05:31 amazingoopah wrote: This CEO loved BW so much that he didn't lift a finger to try to save it? huh? If he didn't want BW to be replaced by SC2, couldn't he have marshaled every other like-minded individual to find a way to see if pro BW could still be viable for a little bit longer? The only reason that Kespa is switching to SC2 is to attempt to survive a bit longer through the foreigner scene since the korean SC2 scene is pretty much DOA at this point from everything anecdotal thing we hear. If pro SC2 weren't this popular outside Korea, I could see kespa hanging onto bw until the bitter end but it makes more sense for them to see if they can survive in some form through Blizzard/foreigner support. He sponsored Team 8 so a bunch of players wouldn't have to retire. So yeah, he lifted a finger to save it, to say the least. | ||
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Hundisilm
Estonia99 Posts
On July 13 2012 06:37 Xiphos wrote: The point is that even if OGN completely switches to broadcasting SC2, what really are their chances of achieving the same glory as their hey days with Brood War? StarCraft 2 markets is very saturated with MLG, DreamHack, IPL, GTSL, NASL, and of course GSL. Comparing to Brood War that only had MBC to compete with (excluded Gom since it was cancelled). Now OGN wouldn't receive nearly as much attention as they want with the game that in the end they are really going to get around the same viewership as Brood War because of the high competition. Lets face it, Tasteless and Artosis are staying in Gom. The only way they are going to harness attentions from the foreign community is through the quality of their English casting. Unless they get Day[9] or 2GD as their ambassador, they will always be second rate relative to GSL. That leaves them the only option of digging into domestic market in which CEOs like this one won't sponsor and many fans wanting to continue the legacy of BW will be bitter enough to not tune in. I fear for the future of the organization. Aren't they doing the lol game though (it probably has potential to be bigger than BW ever was for a year or two)? It probably isn't very smart to focus on one particular game too much anyways. Their SC2 project will be fine as well I'm sure - probably not gonna be as big as BW was on it's heyday, but it'll be fine. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On July 13 2012 06:44 Hundisilm wrote: Aren't they doing the lol game though (it probably has potential to be bigger than BW ever was for a year or two)? It probably isn't very smart to focus on one particular game too much anyways. Their SC2 project will be fine as well I'm sure - probably not gonna be as big as BW was on it's heyday, but it'll be fine. Not sure that it will as GSL will eat away their domestic market and DreamHack and MLG will occupy the foreign scene. OR the completely opposite might happen GSL gets trumped by OGN because sponsors decides to invest into a longer standing organization in which the whole scene have to be under the jurisdiction of KesPa a la Brood War once again. With stronger backing organizations and stable atmosphere with superior training regime, it will be again converting competition for the foreign market. I don't want to see either of the above happening. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
I don't want to see the day when the Broodwar forum disappears completely -_- | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On July 13 2012 06:39 ninazerg wrote: He sponsored Team 8 so a bunch of players wouldn't have to retire. So yeah, he lifted a finger to save it, to say the least. Hmmm, I thought the article said that he considered sponsoring it and was talking with KeSPA about it, yet I don't really see any mention of him actually ending up sponsoring anything. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On July 13 2012 07:14 eviltomahawk wrote: Hmmm, I thought the article said that he considered sponsoring it and was talking with KeSPA about it, yet I don't really see any mention of him actually ending up sponsoring anything. He was considering... until SC2 came into the picture. Then he withdrew his consideration. | ||
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