• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:20
CET 13:20
KST 21:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!44$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker? [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Learning my new SC2 hotkey…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1224 users

[DES] Only in BW will he invest - Page 3

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
Norada
Profile Joined August 2010
China482 Posts
July 12 2012 06:37 GMT
#41
chinese viewers, korean tv watchers are probably a lot more than the viewers that gsl gets. The foreign stuff is only small though. But doesn't look like kespa is that interested in foreign sponsors anyways.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
July 12 2012 06:42 GMT
#42
Isn't this guy a bit late to the party?
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
July 12 2012 06:43 GMT
#43
Maybe he can sponsor the 2052 MSL.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
July 12 2012 06:44 GMT
#44
On July 12 2012 14:40 BlindKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 14:33 xelnaga_empire wrote:
On July 12 2012 13:58 BrosephBrostar wrote:
I'm still waiting to see where all the new money SC2 is supposed to bring in will come from. Everyone acts like the obvious reason for switching to SC2 was to get sponsorship money from international companies, but it doesn't seem that obvious to me. If they were really after international attention wouldn't they have gone with the English client and gotten English commentary by now? The whole thing feels like some kind of conspiracy where half of the puzzle pieces are missing.


Redbull just sponsored StarTale.


If you look at the viewer counts for livestreams, MLG/Dreamhack are raking in over 20,000 viewers ( for days, not just for the ro16 or whatever) easily plus guys like destiny/stephano getting over 4,000 viewers whenever they stream. I'd assume GSL gets even more being the "Korean" tournament.

http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/2969/

I think during the Jangbang OSL Sayle's count was like 2,000? There are probably more unlisted stream that get a few thousand here and there, plus ESPORTSTV . But yeah, SC 2 brings a higher viewer count and way way bigger international attention.

there is a bigger outside of the english speaking world.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
July 12 2012 06:47 GMT
#45
some unnamed CEO is thinking about saving broodwar after it is already in its grave. Yeah, sounds believable.
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
July 12 2012 06:49 GMT
#46
Well he didn't gave money for Team 8 but now he says he wants to support BW only, seems like an ad for his own company or for himself. The name of the company will be found out in no time anyway
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
July 12 2012 06:56 GMT
#47
wtf @ everyone making negative comments toward this!
Yes the timing seems too late, but it's obvious he has been behind the scenes talking to kespa and everyone else much before any of us knew about the demise of BW.
This CEO has made a PUBLIC statement of his stance on only supporting BW. All any of us have done at this point is make statements on TL about how we feel on the matter, so I don't see how any of you can give this guy grief. For all we know this could be the guy that resurrects the Korean BW scene.
If I knew who this guy was I would send him a box of chocolates, because I feel the exact same way he does
jaedong imba
Norada
Profile Joined August 2010
China482 Posts
July 12 2012 06:58 GMT
#48
On July 12 2012 15:56 slappy wrote:
wtf @ everyone making negative comments toward this!
Yes the timing seems too late, but it's obvious he has been behind the scenes talking to kespa and everyone else much before any of us knew about the demise of BW.
This CEO has made a PUBLIC statement of his stance on only supporting BW. All any of us have done at this point is make statements on TL about how we feel on the matter, so I don't see how any of you can give this guy grief. For all we know this could be the guy that resurrects the Korean BW scene.
If I knew who this guy was I would send him a box of chocolates, because I feel the exact same way he does



Agreed, just too many sc2 fanboys in here it seems.
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
July 12 2012 07:00 GMT
#49
On July 12 2012 15:49 Darksoldierr wrote:
Well he didn't gave money for Team 8 but now he says he wants to support BW only, seems like an ad for his own company or for himself. The name of the company will be found out in no time anyway


Ok if it was an ad for his own company and himself why would he put it under an anonymous column where they probably wont ever find out his name or his company. LOL
im gay
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
July 12 2012 07:08 GMT
#50
On July 12 2012 15:58 Norada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 15:56 slappy wrote:
wtf @ everyone making negative comments toward this!
Yes the timing seems too late, but it's obvious he has been behind the scenes talking to kespa and everyone else much before any of us knew about the demise of BW.
This CEO has made a PUBLIC statement of his stance on only supporting BW. All any of us have done at this point is make statements on TL about how we feel on the matter, so I don't see how any of you can give this guy grief. For all we know this could be the guy that resurrects the Korean BW scene.
If I knew who this guy was I would send him a box of chocolates, because I feel the exact same way he does



Agreed, just too many sc2 fanboys in here it seems.


Team tags and post counts are how you tell the sc2 boys from the BW fatalists. With BW, there are the fans who want to sit in a corner and pout, and there are those who want to raise their fist in loud acclaim. Sounds like this CEO is the latter. The thread recently opened, "One last push", by Konadora, and this CEO's statements are very similar timings. What makes this CEO so different than us and our efforts(besides the fact that he has been way more involved and active behind the scenes than we could dream of)? He gets more credit than we do as far as one voice goes. If ALL OF BW TL banded together and came up with a huge statement toward the carrying on of the BW scene, maybe we could amount to something of worth as well.
jaedong imba
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2608 Posts
July 12 2012 07:13 GMT
#51
He can still go for his own starleague. If it has a big enough prizemoney, I am sure people like Jangbi (see my signature) will play in it. Also there are still some really good semipros, which will def play that.

So not to late. No need to have it named "OSL"

Gogogo for it
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 12 2012 07:19 GMT
#52
The entire BW infrastructure is gone. There are only 3 players left with incentive to play BW. Everyone else has to play SC2 lest they lose their progamer livelihood.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 07:23:30
July 12 2012 07:21 GMT
#53
On July 12 2012 15:56 slappy wrote:
wtf @ everyone making negative comments toward this!
Yes the timing seems too late, but it's obvious he has been behind the scenes talking to kespa and everyone else much before any of us knew about the demise of BW.
This CEO has made a PUBLIC statement of his stance on only supporting BW. All any of us have done at this point is make statements on TL about how we feel on the matter, so I don't see how any of you can give this guy grief. For all we know this could be the guy that resurrects the Korean BW scene.
If I knew who this guy was I would send him a box of chocolates, because I feel the exact same way he does


He may have at some point trying to make his company sponsor something BW related (team or tournament), and I respect him for that. But a year ago, as a CEO, he could have made a non anonymous announcement saying that he was publicly supporting BW. And all the answers on the thread would have been "FUCK YEAH CEO <3<3<3".

That move could have made other executives from any company step up. I mean Korean Air executives publicly showed their support for BW. It's not about them sponsoring 2 OSLs, it's about them publicly saying "We love Brood War and we are proud to support it". In a context where sponsors were shy and hesitating because of IP lawsuit/match fixing scandal, such an announcement for Korean Air was invaluable to the scene.

Even if he didn't successfully convince the shareholders of his company (do every sponsoring deal even have to go through the board of directors?) he could have showed his support. Not anonymously, and when it wasn't too late.

edit: Don't misunderstand me, this anonymous statement is still much much better than if he had remained silent forever, but it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
ॐ
Reyis
Profile Joined August 2009
Pitcairn287 Posts
July 12 2012 07:29 GMT
#54
you guys are reacting very wrong.

this CEO dude is smart enough and didnt whistled past few years just because BW and KESPA itself was in danger because of Blizzard and its ip rights bullshit. Blizzard itself have scared all the investors and possible sponsors when they tried to screw over BW with their quarrel with KESPA. Now the things are calmer and Blizzard/Kespa have achieved their plan and deals to kill BW entirely, CEO's and rich guys like this will start talking now.

I hope this turns out good.
기적의 혁명가 김택용 화이팅~!!
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
July 12 2012 07:34 GMT
#55
I get what you're saying Endy, but obviously this guy sat in meetings with Kespa to discuss these matters and got fed a mouthful of sc2. We're all spectators on the side lines here expecting the universe from this guy, but I'm sure he knows a thing or two that we don't. Yea, the timing of his statement is like raising morale only to smash it lower than before, so I wonder whether I'd be happier if this statement was never released, but maybe there's more going on behind the scenes that we don't know about that this CEO is fighting for? He seems to have every bit of passion that I do for BW, and if I was in his position I'd be pulling every string I could.
jaedong imba
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 12 2012 07:42 GMT
#56
Reading that gave me a little hope for the BW scene, but I believe that even if this CEO was to sponsor his own BW league, it wouldn't last very long (unless he's the head of some major company like SBS), since it doesn't seem very profitable, and all the major players would know that SC2 is the future, and therefore would invest their time into getting good at SC2 to be able to have the results they need to succeed.
If only there was something anyone could do to keep the scene alive and well in Korea...
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Marshall_D
Profile Joined November 2008
United States196 Posts
July 12 2012 07:43 GMT
#57
Please for the love of brood war, make this happen. I know for a fact there will still be the same amount of live spectators in korea and in china that want specifically BW, not SC2. I don't think I can watch another sc2 match, especially that fat kid MC. Flash all day er day.
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
July 12 2012 07:48 GMT
#58
This talk of sponsorship while keeping the company anonymous always sounds really suspect to me. Though the same thing back when there was "news" about team8 sponsorship last year... I suppose it could have been the same company.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 12 2012 07:52 GMT
#59
On July 12 2012 16:43 Marshall_D wrote:
Please for the love of brood war, make this happen. I know for a fact there will still be the same amount of live spectators in korea and in china that want specifically BW, not SC2. I don't think I can watch another sc2 match, especially that fat kid MC. Flash all day er day.


MC still cool =3 calm down this thread is about BW not SC2
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 12 2012 07:52 GMT
#60
not too late for anything actually

semi-pro korean/foreign leagues with nice prizepools would be awesome too

and it can be done via the internet !

have to wait and see if this CEO dude is a real person though..
T H C makes ppl happy
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Korean Royale
12:00
Group Stage 1 - Group A
WardiTV346
Rex58
LiquipediaDiscussion
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #112
Solar vs KrystianerLIVE!
TBD vs SKillous
CranKy Ducklings193
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 84
Rex 58
MindelVK 30
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 7162
Sea 5181
GuemChi 756
actioN 613
Pusan 505
Barracks 313
Hyun 237
Last 193
Soma 191
Larva 158
[ Show more ]
hero 144
PianO 111
Backho 81
ToSsGirL 59
Sharp 51
NaDa 24
HiyA 10
scan(afreeca) 10
Noble 9
Dota 2
Gorgc7638
singsing2105
XcaliburYe187
League of Legends
JimRising 893
Counter-Strike
zeus610
x6flipin477
edward62
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor210
Other Games
B2W.Neo875
Pyrionflax348
Happy317
XaKoH 99
goatrope39
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 16
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3040
• WagamamaTV465
• lizZardDota265
League of Legends
• Jankos3330
• Lourlo904
Upcoming Events
LAN Event
2h 40m
ByuN vs Zoun
TBD vs TriGGeR
Clem vs TBD
IPSL
5h 40m
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
7h 40m
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
OSC
10h 40m
OSC
20h 40m
Wardi Open
23h 40m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
[ Show More ]
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
BSL 21
6 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.