EPTStork: "There needs to be a Players Council." - Page 7
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If you derail this thread to argue about SC2 vs BW in any context other than that of the interview (e.g. saying things like "colosi suck" or "all BW fans are elitist jerks!"), I will ban you for at least a week, if not more. This is your only warning. I added this page 17 You have been warned ~GMarshal | ||
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SoulTakerz
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blahblahblahwhatever
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"if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them." Exactly, there is no merging in sight. The only possible outcome of this clusterfuck is that most of the BW players are just gonna quit. They don't need this shit. It's sad that in their frenzied money grab Blizzard doesn't realize that the players are everything. It's even sadder that they may not realize it themselves until it's too late. But mad props to Stork anyway. I'm not gonna laugh at those rage comics with him and the hydras anymore. Well, not very often... | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On May 23 2012 09:39 Xiphos wrote: Players have little to no control about the decisions of the corporate and are basically forced into what ever tasks presented to them. Stork says "enough is enough, let's take back what is ours." and we go "Hell, its about time!" About time for what, exactly? You can't stay on BW without cutting players because the scene is smaller. That is simply a fact. 2007 is not coming back. I'd love to hear a realistic proposal of what's actually the best thing for the players. The options are 1. Stay in BW, but go smaller 2. Switch to SC2 and pray for the best (Current plan) 3. Keep the hybrid proleague, but alternate ace match between BW and SC2, and remove the requirement for players to alternate (in effect, having a half-size BW league glued awkwardly to an SC2 league forever). That's really the only middle ground on the switch front Or is he talking about something tangentially related, like having a program to get BW players who wash out of the SC2 league a chance to go back to school and not be janitors for the rest of their lives? I'm just not sure he's talking about the switch itself, but that the switch hurts a lot of players and no one seems to care. | ||
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Congratulation Stork for 100th win. | ||
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Daudr
Sweden275 Posts
On May 23 2012 10:12 blahblahblahwhatever wrote: I'm so happy a player is speaking out against this crap. One of the main reasons I'm against "merging" BW and SC2 is not my entertaintment but the fact that it's a huge fuck you to the players. "if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them." Exactly, there is no merging in sight. The only possible outcome of this clusterfuck is that most of the BW players are just gonna quit. They don't need this shit. It's sad that in their frenzied money grab Blizzard doesn't realize that the players are everything. It's even sadder that they may not realize it themselves until it's too late. But mad props to Stork anyway. I'm not gonna laugh at those rage comics with him and the hydras anymore. Well, not very often... Why are you talking about Blizzard...? The issue lies with Kespa, and has been for a long time even before SC2 was mentioned. Props to Stork and any player who stands up for their beliefs indeed, but don't turn this into some stupid hatefest. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On May 23 2012 10:22 Ribbon wrote: About time for what, exactly? You can't stay on BW without cutting players because the scene is smaller. That is simply a fact. 2007 is not coming back. I'd love to hear a realistic proposal of what's actually the best thing for the players. The options are 1. Stay in BW, but go smaller 2. Switch to SC2 and pray for the best (Current plan) 3. Keep the hybrid proleague, but alternate ace match between BW and SC2, and remove the requirement for players to alternate (in effect, having a half-size BW league glued awkwardly to an SC2 league forever). That's really the only middle ground on the switch front Or is he talking about something tangentially related, like having a program to get BW players who wash out of the SC2 league a chance to go back to school and not be janitors for the rest of their lives? I'm just not sure he's talking about the switch itself, but that the switch hurts a lot of players and no one seems to care. This has nothing to do with BW to SC2 transition. The problem is Kespa hasn't given a shit about its players since its inception, and not showing the maps and the mixed format was the straw that broke the camels back for Stork. Players have no say in what happens in the leagues or the maps that make it into the pool, and have their hands tied by the stupid kespa progamer licenses. Kespa nearly killed BW when it conjured the "license to broadcast starcraft" from thin air, and then sold it back to OGN for a sum that nearly made them go broke. Kespa simply controls everything that happens without any player input, and any smallfry who talk back fear that they get their license revoked, which is why nobody has complained. Because Stork is such a high profile player, he used his 100 wins achievement to segway into making light of an issue that most progamers had feared to speak up about. | ||
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