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Sprouter

United States1724 Posts

May 23 2012 02:47 GMT

#141

it would be really interesting to see an esports players union, i hope it happens. gogo stork

Sinensis

United States2513 Posts

May 23 2012 02:47 GMT

#142

A player's union isn't going to save Brood War. Maybe if it was formed a year ago it could have made the transition a little better for the players. What Stork says is true, if players don't learn Sc2 fast their careers are over. I don't want that to be true but there's no reason to expect anything different.

ellerina

Philippines452 Posts

May 23 2012 02:49 GMT

#143

It might be too late for BW, but I'm glad someone spoke up about this (and it being someone I'm a fan of is just icing on the cake). There were hints in the coaches interview (one of January's comments) that the players/coaches were not consulted with regarding the specifics of the transition, (or possibly even the transition itself), and it's nice to see confirmation. Putting aside the whole BW vs. SC2 thing, it's outrageous that a change as big as this was just handed down to those who are primarily involved instead of coming up with the best possible situation with input from all sides.

I can't imagine the stress they're all going through with having to practice for 2 different games. The continuation of all the hard work they put in for the past how many years now depends on how fast they can transition to a new game in a few months, which would be fine normally I guess, except they can't even put 100% into the transition and practice because of the format. Or they could put 100% in at the expense of the quality of the BW games they show their fans, and which they played with so high quality before. It all must be very frustrating.

Jaevlaterran

Sweden578 Posts

May 23 2012 02:54 GMT

#144

Thank you stork. Create a players union, initiate a strike until the old format with bw only is back and then win all of it.

alffla

Hong Kong20321 Posts

May 23 2012 03:02 GMT

#145

stork.. awesomeness just went up 10000x.

rift

1819 Posts

May 23 2012 03:09 GMT

#146

What a mature guy.

Nemesis

Canada2568 Posts

May 23 2012 03:16 GMT

#147

Mad respect to stork!

MicrowaveMess

United States42 Posts

May 23 2012 03:17 GMT

#148

I stayed up all night to watch Stork get his 100th Win

Thank you for the translation.

a176

Canada6688 Posts

May 23 2012 03:18 GMT

#149

dear stork, don't just say it ... make it happen !

baubo

China3370 Posts

May 23 2012 03:27 GMT

#150

Thinking about it, it's pretty scary how little Kespa cares for its most important assets. I mean, what separates Kespa from current SC2 teams and associations? It's their collection of what most believe to be the best collection of RTS talent in the entire world. So you'd think that Kespa would want their talented players to want to stay around after the SC2 transition, to have them happily slave away for 10+hrs/day on the computer practicing. But instead they've managed to make every single player become depressed. Most of the post-game interviews have been about how players are struggling mentally and physically. How do you expect to compete with the current SC2 industry if your players are all nervous wrecks?

Fostering communication and care between company and workers is always important for the health of everyone involved. And in this aspect Kespa could prove to be a huge failure, if current BW progamers fail to play up to their potential due to this fucked up transition.

zawk9

United States427 Posts

May 23 2012 03:29 GMT

#151

Maybe Stork (or someone following in his footsteps?) can be the Curt Flood in Kespa's side? A shame players still have to deal with having their concerns be completely ignored in an entertainment business that depends on them as much as this.

Make it happen someday!

bokchoi

Korea (South)9498 Posts

May 23 2012 03:30 GMT

#152

STORKUU

We need someone to be a beacon for pro-gamers. Glad to see Stork not afraid to speak his mind and telling it like it is.

Fyodor

Canada971 Posts

May 23 2012 03:32 GMT

#153

I don't know why crying to reporters at this point is somehow worthy of praise. As a player who was on top of the game he kept quiet when others got stepped on. Now that he sees that even people at the top are disposable he starts crying.

There is no more professional BW league left, what you're hearing is the wallowing of a dying man.

Maybe it is unjust, maybe he was more fortunate than he could reasonably expect. All I know is that I rather had heard from him that he would conquer SC2 or retire to find some other occupation.

CursOr

United States6335 Posts

May 23 2012 03:34 GMT

#154

The fans like this. We are player fans. We are NOT Kespa fans.

Fuckya Stork hwaiting!

iSometric

2221 Posts

May 23 2012 03:35 GMT

#155

STORK ANGRY. HE SMASH.

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

May 23 2012 03:36 GMT

#156

So much respect gained for Stork

endy

Switzerland8970 Posts

May 23 2012 03:36 GMT

#157

Stork, from Dinotoss to Trotskytoss.

OopsOopsBaby

Singapore3425 Posts

May 23 2012 03:43 GMT

#158

On May 23 2012 11:46 sluggaslamoo wrote:

Show nested quote +

This has nothing to do with BW to SC2 transition.

The problem is Kespa hasn't given a shit about its players since its inception, and not showing the maps and the mixed format was the straw that broke the camels back for Stork. Players have no say in what happens in the leagues or the maps that make it into the pool, and have their hands tied by the stupid kespa progamer licenses. Kespa nearly killed BW when it conjured the "license to broadcast starcraft" from thin air, and then sold it back to OGN for a sum that nearly made them go broke.

Kespa simply controls everything that happens without any player input, and any smallfry who talk back fear that they get their license revoked, which is why nobody has complained. Because Stork is such a high profile player, he used his 100 wins achievement to segway into making light of an issue that most progamers had feared to speak up about.

read the article again.

When we were only playing BW, Kespa would first initiate a map test but for this Starleague, the players were only given the final version of the maps the day before the opening.

stork talks about kespa stop giving a shit about bw matters in this case releasing of maps is the example.

This season's BW maps are an example, if you look at the vast majority of the things Kespa has done, the players' opinions have not once been taken into account. It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them.

stork talks about kespa forcing sc2 onto them without getting their opinions.

it is unfortunate but the context is bw to sc2 transition.

AnachronisticAnarchy

United States2957 Posts

May 23 2012 03:44 GMT

#159

Huh. I wonder what made him so stressed he was crying? Sure, the stuff he outlined was very bad, but I don't think it's bad enough to bring tears to his eyes, especially in an interview that was going to the public. Maybe there's a bit more than just issues with player feedback.