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Stork: "There needs to be a Players Council."

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If you derail this thread to argue about SC2 vs BW in any context other than that of the interview (e.g. saying things like "colosi suck" or "all BW fans are elitist jerks!"), I will ban you for at least a week, if not more. This is your only warning. I added this page 17

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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 18:22:23
May 22 2012 21:50 GMT
#1
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Samsung Khan's (P)Stork is angry.

After achieving 100 wins in the OGN Starleague, Stork vented some grievances he has been harbouring. Stork made some strident remarks about Kespa's indifference towards BW after they diverted their attention towards SC2.

On 22nd May, Stork defeated CJ Entus' Horang2 in the Tving Starleague 2012 Ro16 Day 3 held at iParkmall in Yongsan, to achieve the record of 100 wins in an OGN individual league. Stork joined the company of Boxer and Yellow as the third player to achieve 100 wins.

After giving his thoughts on achieving that record, Stork expressed his opinion about the new BW-SC2 Proleague. He stressed, "I'm not sure what other players think but Boxer hyung once emphasized that a players council [like a players union] should be formed. Honestly, there are many unsatisfactory things about Kespa. When we were only playing BW, Kespa would first initiate a map test but for this Starleague, the players were only given the final version of the maps the day before the opening."

"Ever since Kespa started running SC2 side by side, they couldn't care less about BW. The final versions of the Starleague maps were not much different from the beta versions. Actually, when progamers compete, they are putting a lot on the line. There is no avenue for players to talk about these things. There is no place to give or receive feedback."

Because of the new Proleague format, Stork is going through a lot of distress. During the interview in the reporters' room, tears were welling up in his eyes.

"While Boxer hyung was once our leader, right now there is no one else other than myself to express the players' grievances on their behalf. It would be good if Kespa can take into account the opinions of the players. Although corporations play a role in forming esports leagues, without the fans, these leagues would not exist. I hope Kespa can be more considerate of the position the players are in", Stork emphasized.

To conclude his interview, Stork voiced the following comments: "This season's BW maps are an example, if you look at the vast majority of the things Kespa has done, the players' opinions have not once been taken into account. It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them. So it would be good if there is an institution for the players. Although Kespa has engaged in communication with fans, there needs to be an avenue for communication between the players and Kespa."


Source: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=60786
Credit to Kim Yong Woo from Dailyesports for writing this.


I'm very thankful to Stork for speaking up so that more people are aware of how difficult this period is for the players. I hope people will be more sensitive to the hardships that they're going through. Stork is a true leader.

영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
May 22 2012 21:53 GMT
#2
Stork is just wonderful.
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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 21:56:50
May 22 2012 21:56 GMT
#3
So glad he is speaking up about the problems, sadly it just seems like kespa dont care and wants to kill off BW as fast as posible without regards for the players -_-
SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
May 22 2012 21:56 GMT
#4
Stork, this is why you're my favorite player to ever play the game.
1:1 go sc2 LAN? Oh wait...
HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 04:34:14
May 22 2012 21:57 GMT
#5
Around the time when Jaedong was getting royally screwed on his free agency, I remember thinking, "Man, they really need a players association". It's nice to see someone piping up about this.

Poor stork

Honestly, this Proleague should have been delayed so players could have had proper time to prepare for SC2 pure. The hybrid format is just a mess.
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
May 22 2012 21:58 GMT
#6
Stork's comportement has not always been exemplary in the past, but once agin, I'm proud to be his fan.
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Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
May 22 2012 21:59 GMT
#7
What a guy.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 22 2012 22:00 GMT
#8
Song Byung Goo, you are a boss.

Tell it like it is!
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S2Glow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Singapore1042 Posts
May 22 2012 22:02 GMT
#9
omg stork the new leader of bw for now
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9538 Posts
May 22 2012 22:05 GMT
#10
Finally someone to speak up his mind and not the usual "it is what it is" bullshit interview answers we've been getting lately.

I knew Stork is my second favorite progamer for a reason <3 (Sorry, no one can beat Reach for #1 spot!).
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
May 22 2012 22:05 GMT
#11
Truly worthy of the title "The Commander."
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
May 22 2012 22:06 GMT
#12
SONG BYUNG GU
SONG BYUNG GU
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pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
May 22 2012 22:07 GMT
#13
On May 23 2012 06:56 SlowBullets wrote:
Stork, this is why you're my favorite player to ever play the game.


Was gonna say that as well.
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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
May 22 2012 22:07 GMT
#14
Kespa needs to listen to their players. I could feel their frustration just from watching the games, although that might have been more of my frustrations then theirs. Anyways, this players council has to be formed. This is getting ridiculous.

Also Stork is one classy guy.
this is my quote.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
May 22 2012 22:08 GMT
#15
<3 Stork
TranslatorBaa!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 22 2012 22:08 GMT
#16
Fandom for Stork....renewed!
Faith in ESPORT....restored!

Oh shit, this is like two birds in one stone.
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hydrogg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States377 Posts
May 22 2012 22:08 GMT
#17
read this interview and then 5 mins later I just realized I spoiled OSL day 3 for myself lol
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 22 2012 22:10 GMT
#18
On May 23 2012 07:05 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Finally someone to speak up his mind and not the usual "it is what it is" bullshit interview answers we've been getting lately.

I knew Stork is my second favorite progamer for a reason <3 (Sorry, no one can beat Reach for #1 spot!).

Most players are either too PC, too afraid of the consequences or too young to speak up. Stork is none of these.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
May 22 2012 22:10 GMT
#19
Given how its now feasible for people to jump ship to more lucrative SCII teams, Kespa kinda has to not screw over the players.

Also Stork Awesome.
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ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
May 22 2012 22:10 GMT
#20
I think I just became a Stork fan.... never thought I would say that.
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