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If you derail this thread to argue about SC2 vs BW in any context other than that of the interview (e.g. saying things like "colosi suck" or "all BW fans are elitist jerks!"), I will ban you for at least a week, if not more. This is your only warning. I added this page 17

You have been warned
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RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
May 25 2012 06:09 GMT
#461
On May 25 2012 14:09 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 07:33 Antisocialmunky wrote:
I would Lawl if you just played the match with inter-continental lag and they zoomed in on the empty booth.

wasn't there an incident in the early days of BW where someone stayed up practicing all night and they actually fell asleep before the match started and they had trouble waking him up?

I think you mean he fainted. That would be silent_control
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 25 2012 07:42 GMT
#462
On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote:
He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that


Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING.

Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much.


Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_;
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 09:29:50
May 25 2012 09:28 GMT
#463
On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:
On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote:
He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that


Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING.

Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much.


Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_;

I remember Seas mass factory game, that was so awesome. his macro is so good,
(he had like 20 or so factories with the lab, and pumped out tanks)
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
May 25 2012 10:15 GMT
#464
On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:
On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote:
He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that


Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING.

Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much.


Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_;


Boxer mentioned a young and upcoming player for each race. Stork as protoss, Sea as terran, and Savior as zerg. Stork and Savior succeeded. Sea failed.
Meh
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
May 25 2012 10:17 GMT
#465
On May 25 2012 19:15 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:
On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:
On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote:
He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that


Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING.

Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much.


Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_;


Boxer mentioned a young and upcoming player for each race. Stork as protoss, Sea as terran, and Savior as zerg. Stork and Savior succeeded. Sea failed.

Boxer also when asked to name a Player like himself who could continue being a progamer into their 30's names Stork.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
May 25 2012 11:47 GMT
#466
On May 25 2012 19:17 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:15 baubo wrote:
On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:
On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:
On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote:
He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that


Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING.

Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much.


Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_;


Boxer mentioned a young and upcoming player for each race. Stork as protoss, Sea as terran, and Savior as zerg. Stork and Savior succeeded. Sea failed.

Boxer also when asked to name a Player like himself who could continue being a progamer into their 30's names Stork.

Boxer is in fact Hari Seldon
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 11:52:16
May 25 2012 11:51 GMT
#467
On May 25 2012 19:15 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:
On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:
On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote:
He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that


Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING.

Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much.


Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_;


Boxer mentioned a young and upcoming player for each race. Stork as protoss, Sea as terran, and Savior as zerg. Stork and Savior succeeded. Sea failed.


Only in the single leagues, though! Sea has always been a beast in teamleagues! At least as far as I can remember.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
May 25 2012 12:09 GMT
#468
On May 25 2012 20:51 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:15 baubo wrote:
On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:
On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:
On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote:
He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that


Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING.

Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much.


Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_;


Boxer mentioned a young and upcoming player for each race. Stork as protoss, Sea as terran, and Savior as zerg. Stork and Savior succeeded. Sea failed.


Only in the single leagues, though! Sea has always been a beast in teamleagues! At least as far as I can remember.


As I recall, Sea was a pretty sick player in the proleagues, and showed up in OSLs a lot as a serious prospect. He was a very good player, just not a legend.
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2013 Posts
May 25 2012 12:38 GMT
#469
On May 25 2012 20:47 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:17 ShadeR wrote:
On May 25 2012 19:15 baubo wrote:
On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:
On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:
On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote:
He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that


Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING.

Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much.


Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_;


Boxer mentioned a young and upcoming player for each race. Stork as protoss, Sea as terran, and Savior as zerg. Stork and Savior succeeded. Sea failed.

Boxer also when asked to name a Player like himself who could continue being a progamer into their 30's names Stork.

Boxer is in fact Hari Seldon


Eternal +1 for Asimov reference
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
May 25 2012 13:13 GMT
#470
Does anyone know what people are actually 'doing' to make this happen, or at least make this a possibility?

“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
May 25 2012 13:13 GMT
#471
Sea was one of the most consistent players in proleague for many many years, almost like a safe bet. And then he will always make it out of the qualifiers and reach the starleagues only to choke big time. The question was: will his proleague performance translate to starleague wins one day, or will it happen the other way. By now we all know the answer.
ionize
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Ireland399 Posts
May 25 2012 13:23 GMT
#472
I'm on Stork's side. Good that he speaks his mind and steps us as a leader. I hope the pro-gamer community figures something out.
I just love video games, what's your excuse?
-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
May 25 2012 23:17 GMT
#473
"It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them."

Ok? Then they can get a normal job or find something else they like doing for a career, just like every other person alive. Did they expect this game to live on forever and they would continue to play SC:BW professionally for the rest of their lives? lol
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 23:25:42
May 25 2012 23:24 GMT
#474
On May 26 2012 08:17 -stOpSKY- wrote:
"It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them."

Ok? Then they can get a normal job or find something else they like doing for a career, just like every other person alive. Did they expect this game to live on forever and they would continue to play SC:BW professionally for the rest of their lives? lol

You don't know what they sacrificed for BW, and how the Korean Education System works.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
May 25 2012 23:35 GMT
#475
On May 26 2012 08:24 blubbdavid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2012 08:17 -stOpSKY- wrote:
"It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them."

Ok? Then they can get a normal job or find something else they like doing for a career, just like every other person alive. Did they expect this game to live on forever and they would continue to play SC:BW professionally for the rest of their lives? lol

You don't know what they sacrificed for BW, and how the Korean Education System works.


Why would you sacrifice so much for something that will only gives you so little. Lots of parents are VERY un-supportive of their children leaving school to become or attempt to become pro-gamers... sounds like some people made some questionable decisions.

So please dont tell me what I know and dont know.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 25 2012 23:36 GMT
#476
On May 26 2012 08:24 blubbdavid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2012 08:17 -stOpSKY- wrote:
"It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them."

Ok? Then they can get a normal job or find something else they like doing for a career, just like every other person alive. Did they expect this game to live on forever and they would continue to play SC:BW professionally for the rest of their lives? lol

You don't know what they sacrificed for BW, and how the Korean Education System works.


And go read Bisu's interview by TL. He specifically mentioned that he was totally set to play Brood War until the appropriate retirement age.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 25 2012 23:44 GMT
#477
On May 25 2012 22:13 RamenStyle wrote:
Sea was one of the most consistent players in proleague for many many years, almost like a safe bet. And then he will always make it out of the qualifiers and reach the starleagues only to choke big time. The question was: will his proleague performance translate to starleague wins one day, or will it happen the other way. By now we all know the answer.

In terms of raw talent, Sea was very highly thought of both by coaches and players during the early years of his career. In Proleague that talent did manifest itself but a combination of inadequate preparation and mental weakness led to comparatively poor results in individual leagues.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
May 26 2012 01:14 GMT
#478
On May 26 2012 08:17 -stOpSKY- wrote:
"It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them."

Ok? Then they can get a normal job or find something else they like doing for a career, just like every other person alive. Did they expect this game to live on forever and they would continue to play SC:BW professionally for the rest of their lives? lol


"Every other person alive" went to high school. Many of them went to college.
MicrowaveMess
Profile Joined May 2012
United States42 Posts
May 26 2012 01:20 GMT
#479
On May 26 2012 08:17 -stOpSKY- wrote:
"It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them."

Ok? Then they can get a normal job or find something else they like doing for a career, just like every other person alive. Did they expect this game to live on forever and they would continue to play SC:BW professionally for the rest of their lives? lol



Imagine being with a company for 5 years and one day they tell you that you'll be forced to switch to a new position. You have little to now experience with the new position and yet everyone expects you to be the best at it. If you don't do a great in your new position you'll be release from the company all together. Oh and did I mention that you will continue to work both positions at the same time.

That is what these guys are going through. I can't imagine the amount of stress and uncertainty they feel for their futures. On top of that they are getting paraded around like a circus act for MLG! I won't get into that. If I were in their shoes I would do a worker rush everytime they sent me out to play.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
May 26 2012 03:09 GMT
#480
I would say that Boxer was wrong in his picks. Savior failed massively after succeeding massively, Sea is a great player but stuck in OSL limbo, and Stork took after his Yellow protege than him.

That being said, STORRRRRKKKKUUUUUUU 4ever.
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