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On May 25 2012 14:09 kainzero wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 07:33 Antisocialmunky wrote: I would Lawl if you just played the match with inter-continental lag and they zoomed in on the empty booth. wasn't there an incident in the early days of BW where someone stayed up practicing all night and they actually fell asleep before the match started and they had trouble waking him up? I think you mean he fainted. That would be silent_control
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On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote: He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING. Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much.
Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_;
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On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote: He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING. Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much. Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_; I remember Seas mass factory game, that was so awesome. his macro is so good, (he had like 20 or so factories with the lab, and pumped out tanks)
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On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote: He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING. Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much. Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_;
Boxer mentioned a young and upcoming player for each race. Stork as protoss, Sea as terran, and Savior as zerg. Stork and Savior succeeded. Sea failed.
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On May 25 2012 19:15 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote: He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING. Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much. Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_; Boxer mentioned a young and upcoming player for each race. Stork as protoss, Sea as terran, and Savior as zerg. Stork and Savior succeeded. Sea failed. Boxer also when asked to name a Player like himself who could continue being a progamer into their 30's names Stork.
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On May 25 2012 19:17 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 19:15 baubo wrote:On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote: He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING. Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much. Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_; Boxer mentioned a young and upcoming player for each race. Stork as protoss, Sea as terran, and Savior as zerg. Stork and Savior succeeded. Sea failed. Boxer also when asked to name a Player like himself who could continue being a progamer into their 30's names Stork. Boxer is in fact Hari Seldon
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On May 25 2012 19:15 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote: He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING. Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much. Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_; Boxer mentioned a young and upcoming player for each race. Stork as protoss, Sea as terran, and Savior as zerg. Stork and Savior succeeded. Sea failed.
Only in the single leagues, though! Sea has always been a beast in teamleagues! At least as far as I can remember.
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On May 25 2012 20:51 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 19:15 baubo wrote:On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote: He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING. Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much. Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_; Boxer mentioned a young and upcoming player for each race. Stork as protoss, Sea as terran, and Savior as zerg. Stork and Savior succeeded. Sea failed. Only in the single leagues, though! Sea has always been a beast in teamleagues! At least as far as I can remember.
As I recall, Sea was a pretty sick player in the proleagues, and showed up in OSLs a lot as a serious prospect. He was a very good player, just not a legend.
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On May 25 2012 20:47 Elroi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 19:17 ShadeR wrote:On May 25 2012 19:15 baubo wrote:On May 25 2012 16:42 Caihead wrote:On May 25 2012 06:52 ShatterZer0 wrote:On May 25 2012 06:48 firehand101 wrote: He puts boxer in the highest regards, and i respect him for that Well Stork IS a name given to him by BoxeR. Not to mention the fact that before Stork had broken out into the high level scene BoxeR dubbed him the NEXT BIG THING. Generally people who've been named by/under the tutelage of BoxeR have turn out to be something of Demi-Gods. Stork was no different, makes sense he respects him so much. Sea was the one dubbed by Boxer to be the next big thing ;_; Boxer mentioned a young and upcoming player for each race. Stork as protoss, Sea as terran, and Savior as zerg. Stork and Savior succeeded. Sea failed. Boxer also when asked to name a Player like himself who could continue being a progamer into their 30's names Stork. Boxer is in fact Hari Seldon
Eternal +1 for Asimov reference
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Does anyone know what people are actually 'doing' to make this happen, or at least make this a possibility?
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Sea was one of the most consistent players in proleague for many many years, almost like a safe bet. And then he will always make it out of the qualifiers and reach the starleagues only to choke big time. The question was: will his proleague performance translate to starleague wins one day, or will it happen the other way. By now we all know the answer.
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I'm on Stork's side. Good that he speaks his mind and steps us as a leader. I hope the pro-gamer community figures something out.
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"It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them."
Ok? Then they can get a normal job or find something else they like doing for a career, just like every other person alive. Did they expect this game to live on forever and they would continue to play SC:BW professionally for the rest of their lives? lol
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On May 26 2012 08:17 -stOpSKY- wrote: "It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them."
Ok? Then they can get a normal job or find something else they like doing for a career, just like every other person alive. Did they expect this game to live on forever and they would continue to play SC:BW professionally for the rest of their lives? lol You don't know what they sacrificed for BW, and how the Korean Education System works.
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On May 26 2012 08:24 blubbdavid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2012 08:17 -stOpSKY- wrote: "It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them."
Ok? Then they can get a normal job or find something else they like doing for a career, just like every other person alive. Did they expect this game to live on forever and they would continue to play SC:BW professionally for the rest of their lives? lol You don't know what they sacrificed for BW, and how the Korean Education System works.
Why would you sacrifice so much for something that will only gives you so little. Lots of parents are VERY un-supportive of their children leaving school to become or attempt to become pro-gamers... sounds like some people made some questionable decisions.
So please dont tell me what I know and dont know.
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On May 26 2012 08:24 blubbdavid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2012 08:17 -stOpSKY- wrote: "It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them."
Ok? Then they can get a normal job or find something else they like doing for a career, just like every other person alive. Did they expect this game to live on forever and they would continue to play SC:BW professionally for the rest of their lives? lol You don't know what they sacrificed for BW, and how the Korean Education System works.
And go read Bisu's interview by TL. He specifically mentioned that he was totally set to play Brood War until the appropriate retirement age.
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On May 25 2012 22:13 RamenStyle wrote: Sea was one of the most consistent players in proleague for many many years, almost like a safe bet. And then he will always make it out of the qualifiers and reach the starleagues only to choke big time. The question was: will his proleague performance translate to starleague wins one day, or will it happen the other way. By now we all know the answer. In terms of raw talent, Sea was very highly thought of both by coaches and players during the early years of his career. In Proleague that talent did manifest itself but a combination of inadequate preparation and mental weakness led to comparatively poor results in individual leagues.
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On May 26 2012 08:17 -stOpSKY- wrote: "It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them."
Ok? Then they can get a normal job or find something else they like doing for a career, just like every other person alive. Did they expect this game to live on forever and they would continue to play SC:BW professionally for the rest of their lives? lol
"Every other person alive" went to high school. Many of them went to college.
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On May 26 2012 08:17 -stOpSKY- wrote: "It might not matter to players who earn a lot of money but as a whole, if the top players and middle ranking players don't do well at SC2, it is the end for them."
Ok? Then they can get a normal job or find something else they like doing for a career, just like every other person alive. Did they expect this game to live on forever and they would continue to play SC:BW professionally for the rest of their lives? lol
Imagine being with a company for 5 years and one day they tell you that you'll be forced to switch to a new position. You have little to now experience with the new position and yet everyone expects you to be the best at it. If you don't do a great in your new position you'll be release from the company all together. Oh and did I mention that you will continue to work both positions at the same time.
That is what these guys are going through. I can't imagine the amount of stress and uncertainty they feel for their futures. On top of that they are getting paraded around like a circus act for MLG! I won't get into that. If I were in their shoes I would do a worker rush everytime they sent me out to play.
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I would say that Boxer was wrong in his picks. Savior failed massively after succeeding massively, Sea is a great player but stuck in OSL limbo, and Stork took after his Yellow protege than him. 
That being said, STORRRRRKKKKUUUUUUU 4ever.
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