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Stork: "There needs to be a Players Council." - Page 4

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If you derail this thread to argue about SC2 vs BW in any context other than that of the interview (e.g. saying things like "colosi suck" or "all BW fans are elitist jerks!"), I will ban you for at least a week, if not more. This is your only warning. I added this page 17

You have been warned
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See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
May 22 2012 23:01 GMT
#61
Aw <3 stork
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 22 2012 23:01 GMT
#62
On May 23 2012 07:55 Belha wrote:
I do not agree with all the "hail stork" around.
He's saying this just now that the transition to sc2 is happening. What about all the years before? Boxer have retired a few years ago, not now.
It is rumored that Stork is not that good at Sc2 (just a rumor). If that is true, then i think stork is just worried about him and other players that indeed and sadly will get out of the scene.
I'm just trying to think what he said, don't summon a shitstorm over me.


How can you be good at something when you can't even bring yourself to take fondness in it.

And oh as a Stork fan, I will be lenient about this post. But if issue start to exacerbate, prepare for it.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 23:11:30
May 22 2012 23:02 GMT
#63
On May 23 2012 07:55 Belha wrote:
I do not agree with all the "hail stork" around.
He's saying this just now that the transition to sc2 is happening. What about all the years before? Boxer have retired a few years ago, not now.
It is rumored that Stork is not that good at Sc2 (just a rumor). If that is true, then i think stork is just worried about him and other players that indeed and sadly will get out of the scene.
I'm just trying to think what he said, don't summon a shitstorm over me.


Why would he say that because of himself, he has a golden hand along with Boxer and Yellow, He has been in every starleague but two since 2006(or before?), he won one OSL one PL, the only thing he hasn't won are two other OSLs, well and most OSL wins. He hasn't any reason to worry, he is one of the most successful players ever.
EDIT: I will be a gentleman just cause it is a Stork thread.
jumbotroN
Profile Joined April 2010
Peru229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 23:11:33
May 22 2012 23:05 GMT
#64
someone had to say it. thats why I like Stork so much, hes very expressive (winning or losing / in a positive or negative emotional state) and outspoken.

lots of love to you stork!
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
May 22 2012 23:08 GMT
#65
Stork is just so awesome. About time someone spoke up.
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
May 22 2012 23:11 GMT
#66
Finally, I can't believe how long it took for a player to say something like this. Even if some are fine with the transition, its undoubtable many are pissed off.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 22 2012 23:12 GMT
#67
I knew some of them were feeling like this, this sucks =/

storkuuuuuuuuuu
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
May 22 2012 23:13 GMT
#68
On May 23 2012 08:11 sheaRZerg wrote:
Finally, I can't believe how long it took for a player to say something like this. Even if some are fine with the transition, its undoubtable many are pissed off.

As I said, the WAY the transition is going is the real problem, as it's incredibly hard and unforgiving for the players
BW: sGs.sTaRfaLL SC2: MarojiN | fan of: Darkforce, DBS, Last, Mvp, BoguS/InnoVatioN | Executer vs Choosy on Gladiator - Never forget T-T
imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1377 Posts
May 22 2012 23:14 GMT
#69
Stork for Korean president
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3126 Posts
May 22 2012 23:21 GMT
#70
YES! Karking yes! This is what I've been saying ever since this format was announced (and a long time before). Kespa is once again screwing over their players (who are the real reason the BW scene succeeded and continues to succeed) just so they can wring out a few more bucks and protect themselves from actually having to take a karking risk. Players are suffering with this transition, which Kespa is handling with all eyes on the bottom line and no eyes on the players--and finally, someone has actually spoken out about it.

This is the reason I have never liked Kespa; their nasty, exploitative attitude towards the players. These players simply NEED a union, they NEED a voice in the way the esports scene is run, and there could be no one better for the role than Syong Byong Goo himself. He's extremely popular with the fans, he's well-established, he probably has the widest social circle in the BW scene at the moment, is on good terms with many players from many teams, and he's also not afraid to speak his mind. I seriously hope Stork actually makes this happen, and hopefully the fans can apply some pressure to Kespa to see that it bears fruit.

In other news, this is also confirmation, if I needed it (I didn't), that Stork is and always will be my favorite player. SYONG BYONG GOO!
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
May 22 2012 23:22 GMT
#71
Stork, lead the rebellion!
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Wolfice
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada2 Posts
May 22 2012 23:24 GMT
#72
Though I can't claim to really know anything at all about the scene, my two years of following and reading up on brood war have really made me feel for this game. I honestly thought this shit would last forever...

Never really thought much about stork, besides his absurdly good PvT. But to see a veteran like him standing up for the players of the game I love- for the game TL loves--- +1 fan Stork.
Jaedong. For now. Forever.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8143 Posts
May 22 2012 23:28 GMT
#73
i fully support a stork gold medal this OSL
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10236 Posts
May 22 2012 23:29 GMT
#74
Stork is being the Derek Fisher of Starcraft Brood War right now... except hes a lot better.

STORK HWAITING!!!
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 22 2012 23:30 GMT
#75
I can totally understand why he along with the rest would be upset.
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
May 22 2012 23:31 GMT
#76
The Commander speaks for his troops!
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
May 22 2012 23:32 GMT
#77
Stork is kind of like IdrA, they are both somewhat dicks but very sincere in voicing their opinions.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
Marti
Profile Joined August 2011
552 Posts
May 22 2012 23:33 GMT
#78
Glad to see someone finally speak out, but angered at the same time that he's the only one, and that it took so looong. Kespa has been screwing over the players for a loooooong time now, nobody is going to do anything about it.
Kespa's abuse has been going on for a long time.
Basically, what those guys said :+ Show Spoiler +

On May 23 2012 07:55 Belha wrote:
I do not agree with all the "hail stork" around.
He's saying this just now that the transition to sc2 is happening. What about all the years before? Boxer have retired a few years ago, not now.

On May 23 2012 07:54 RageCommodore wrote:
I think this isn't just about the switch to SC2, it's also a lot about the way Kespa treats the players in general. As far as I understand it, Kespa can force the players to do what they want and will face no opposition because the players that oppose Kespa won't stay for long. The players have far too little control over what they do. All other sports where such a powerful organisation exists has a player/ team council to counter the weight of said organization. It's about time something like that is implemented into BW (and other games as well - there was actually a huge discussion in the SCII forum about the need for a players council a few months ago).

#adun giveafuck - - - "Did this guy just randomly finger me?" - Sayle
beatitudes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States167 Posts
May 22 2012 23:35 GMT
#79
it is explained in the interview that he had no avenue to express his thoughts on the matter until now. he used the avenue of becoming only the 3rd player to reach 100 single player wins in osl as the platform to voice his concerns, why are people so concerned about the timing? it seems rather logical to me
<3
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
May 22 2012 23:37 GMT
#80
On May 23 2012 07:17 koreasilver wrote:
It's funny, because the interview where Boxer talked about what Stork is referring to is something I remember really vividly. It was an interview where Boxer and Savior got together, and Boxer was hoping that Savior would become a kind of lead figure after him.

It's quite sad if you look back at it with the knowledge and experience of what everyone knows that has happened since then.

edit: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=86325


Wow...you can just taste the moral dilemma in some of Saviors comments regarding life after being on top.

I dont really see what you are referring to, however. Nothing Boxer talks about is as specific and practical as what Stork is talking about.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
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