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Stork: "There needs to be a Players Council." - Page 6
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Release
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pyorotemjin
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VGhost
United States3616 Posts
On the issue at hand, I'm not sure. BW has been fading for a couple years, though - but then, not because of SC2 directly. KeSPA's railroading SC2, that's clear; Blizzard is probably pushing them hard as well. But KeSPA has never been about making concessions, while Blizzard exists by doing business, so is working mainly with what is there. I could see this as an opportunity, in some ways - if the sentiment is widespread - for GOM and OGN to reach an agreement with the teams and cut KeSPA out entirely. But that would demand some sort of settlement with the BW players, otherwise it's just the same problem and they'll stick with the devil they know. Also I don't know Korean intricacies, so that might be impossible - but I could see, say, Team 8 or STX "disbanding" and reforming under the GSL umbrella if some arrangement were proposed. I feel like a stable team league is necessary for Starcraft to continue in popularity, and my impression is that the KeSPA Proleague is the closest thing there is: GSTL and IPL neither of them have a stable lineup of teams (though they do have a pool to draw from) or anything like a professional "season". I don't know, I'm just rambling here. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
brb changing OZ icon to Khan. Jaedong and Bisu defeatist attitude is shit. | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
What exactly does he want this players association to do? | ||
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Ryo
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On May 23 2012 09:34 Release wrote: Ok. I have been Jaedong fan for 3 years now. But i think i just became a Stork fan for life. brb changing OZ icon to Khan. Jaedong and Bisu defeatist attitude is shit. Their personalities are different. Jaedong is very PC and Bisu is introverted and not very eloquent. I don't blame them. | ||
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Release
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Gamegene
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On May 23 2012 09:35 Ribbon wrote: I'm not entirely sure what Stork's grievance is. Does he want to go back to BW, skip this hybrid business and go straight to SC2, or just set up some kind of system for players who get lost in the transition? Is the transition the issue, the way the transition is happening, or just progamer life in general under KeSPA being pushed to a breaking point? What exactly does he want this players association to do? Players have little to no control about the decisions of the corporate and are basically forced into what ever tasks presented to them. Stork says "enough is enough, let's take back what is ours." and we go "Hell, its about time!" | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On May 23 2012 09:39 Gamegene wrote: Thank you Stork. This is pretty much the reason why I refuse to watch Proleague or OSL. The games are just trash, the players are playing like trash, and the fans have to be cowed into this new game. AFAI have seen, Fantasy isn't playing like trash (yet). but most definitely have. | ||
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Trozz
Canada3456 Posts
As Hyung, he's everyone's voice. Players have no choice... ): | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
Previously bw pro gamers were only needed to play bw only and they were able to deliver jaw dropping action and quality games for the fans all over the world and now they have to play in this frankenstein league where players have to divide their attention span to two games . Sure some players may have that " I will make out of this I don't give a **** I will survive this BS".However not all of them can accept that the level of play is going to be reset to the point there is nothing to differentiate them from other players . This will probably won't change anything however but Stork saying this little things like " maps are bull shit for bw and kespa don't give a damn about bw " only made a fan boy for stork . He isn't all happy about the sc2 transition and the way they are forcing them to play in this way. | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
Dammit Stork, I'm with you all the way! I wish I could cuddle and cry with you. y'know what, imma switch to khan just cuz of this | ||
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Ryo
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On May 23 2012 09:45 Sawamura wrote: Always considered stork as one of the more superior protoss in PvT,PvP maybe not so much in PvZ but his play is really inspiring . Seriously nothing gets me more hype than dragoons killing siege tanks line and only stork is capable of making this happen because in the hands of the commander dragoons become immortal and become the imbalance for the siege tank. Probably retiring of brave pushed stork in to this position or he had enough of the pushing kespa has been doing to them . Previously bw pro gamers were only needed to play bw only and they were able to deliver jaw dropping action and quality games for the fans all over the world and now they have to play in this frankenstein league where players have to divide their attention span to two games . Sure some players may have that " I will make out of this I don't give a **** I will survive this BS".However not all of them can accept that the level of play is going to be reset to the point there is nothing to differentiate them from other players . This will probably won't change anything however but Stork saying this little things like " maps are bull shit for bw and kespa don't give a damn about bw " only made a fan boy for stork . He isn't all happy about the sc2 transition and the way they are forcing them to play in this way. This is a very good point. | ||
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empty.bottle
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On May 23 2012 09:34 Release wrote: Ok. I have been Jaedong fan for 3 years now. But i think i just became a Stork fan for life. brb changing OZ icon to Khan. Jaedong and Bisu defeatist attitude is shit. Oh come on, you don't change your icon... once you choose the path of being sKyHighed you have to deal with it until you die. | ||
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Kuja
United States1759 Posts
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On May 23 2012 09:58 empty.bottle wrote: Oh come on, you don't change your icon... once you choose the path of being sKyHighed you have to deal with it until you die. back to OZ but for some reason, i enjoyed watching "The sky also rises" a little bit more. | ||
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natalia_shimanchuk
Uzbekistan30 Posts
 but he has been playing since 2005, and one of the longest careers in bw, he is experienced and he would make a good leader this won't make a difference but i'm glad players like stork can voice their opinions like this and take initiative and have courage | ||
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