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Stork: "There needs to be a Players Council." - Page 6

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If you derail this thread to argue about SC2 vs BW in any context other than that of the interview (e.g. saying things like "colosi suck" or "all BW fans are elitist jerks!"), I will ban you for at least a week, if not more. This is your only warning. I added this page 17

You have been warned
~GMarshal
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
May 23 2012 00:27 GMT
#101
I hope Boxer quits SC2 to join Stork so that they can both show up KESPA.
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pyorotemjin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States95 Posts
May 23 2012 00:30 GMT
#102
God I like Stork. He's just so honest, and it's just crazy to think that he gets this time in the spotlight during what has to be one of his biggest personal accomplishments of his life... and he spends at least part of it defending his fellow BW players and calling out the faults of an association which still has a *ton* of control over his career. Balls of goddamn steel. Attaboy storku
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
May 23 2012 00:32 GMT
#103
I really wouldn't have expected Stork to be the one to speak up. He's always personable and "doesn't care who knows", but he's never seemed to me to have much of a serious side. If anything, I would have expected some passive-aggressive comments from Bisu, or maybe even something from Coach Park depending what his players were thinking/their results.

On the issue at hand, I'm not sure. BW has been fading for a couple years, though - but then, not because of SC2 directly. KeSPA's railroading SC2, that's clear; Blizzard is probably pushing them hard as well. But KeSPA has never been about making concessions, while Blizzard exists by doing business, so is working mainly with what is there.

I could see this as an opportunity, in some ways - if the sentiment is widespread - for GOM and OGN to reach an agreement with the teams and cut KeSPA out entirely. But that would demand some sort of settlement with the BW players, otherwise it's just the same problem and they'll stick with the devil they know. Also I don't know Korean intricacies, so that might be impossible - but I could see, say, Team 8 or STX "disbanding" and reforming under the GSL umbrella if some arrangement were proposed.

I feel like a stable team league is necessary for Starcraft to continue in popularity, and my impression is that the KeSPA Proleague is the closest thing there is: GSTL and IPL neither of them have a stable lineup of teams (though they do have a pool to draw from) or anything like a professional "season".

I don't know, I'm just rambling here.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 00:35:18
May 23 2012 00:34 GMT
#104
Ok. I have been Jaedong fan for 3 years now. But i think i just became a Stork fan for life.
brb changing OZ icon to Khan.
Jaedong and Bisu defeatist attitude is shit.
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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 00:36:19
May 23 2012 00:35 GMT
#105
I'm not entirely sure what Stork's grievance is. Does he want to go back to BW, skip this hybrid business and go straight to SC2, or just set up some kind of system for players who get lost in the transition? Is the transition the issue, the way the transition is happening, or just progamer life in general under KeSPA being pushed to a breaking point?

What exactly does he want this players association to do?
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 23 2012 00:38 GMT
#106
On May 23 2012 09:34 Release wrote:
Ok. I have been Jaedong fan for 3 years now. But i think i just became a Stork fan for life.
brb changing OZ icon to Khan.
Jaedong and Bisu defeatist attitude is shit.

Their personalities are different. Jaedong is very PC and Bisu is introverted and not very eloquent. I don't blame them.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
May 23 2012 00:38 GMT
#107
I think back to BW. I think he means to say that older players like himself have no future in SC2 and will lose their careers.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 23 2012 00:39 GMT
#108
Thank you Stork. This is pretty much the reason why I refuse to watch Proleague or OSL. The games are just trash, the players are playing like trash, and the fans have to be cowed into this new game.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 23 2012 00:39 GMT
#109
On May 23 2012 09:35 Ribbon wrote:
I'm not entirely sure what Stork's grievance is. Does he want to go back to BW, skip this hybrid business and go straight to SC2, or just set up some kind of system for players who get lost in the transition? Is the transition the issue, the way the transition is happening, or just progamer life in general under KeSPA being pushed to a breaking point?

What exactly does he want this players association to do?


Players have little to no control about the decisions of the corporate and are basically forced into what ever tasks presented to them. Stork says "enough is enough, let's take back what is ours."

and we go "Hell, its about time!"
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 00:41:50
May 23 2012 00:41 GMT
#110
On May 23 2012 09:39 Gamegene wrote:
Thank you Stork. This is pretty much the reason why I refuse to watch Proleague or OSL. The games are just trash, the players are playing like trash, and the fans have to be cowed into this new game.

AFAI have seen, Fantasy isn't playing like trash (yet). but most definitely have.
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Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
May 23 2012 00:43 GMT
#111
Stork with balls of steel.
As Hyung, he's everyone's voice.
Players have no choice... ):
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 00:45:53
May 23 2012 00:45 GMT
#112
Always considered stork as one of the more superior protoss in PvT,PvP maybe not so much in PvZ but his play is really inspiring . Seriously nothing gets me more hype than dragoons killing siege tanks line and only stork is capable of making this happen because in the hands of the commander dragoons become immortal and become the imbalance for the siege tank. Probably retiring of brave pushed stork in to this position or he had enough of the pushing kespa has been doing to them .

Previously bw pro gamers were only needed to play bw only and they were able to deliver jaw dropping action and quality games for the fans all over the world and now they have to play in this frankenstein league where players have to divide their attention span to two games . Sure some players may have that " I will make out of this I don't give a **** I will survive this BS".However not all of them can accept that the level of play is going to be reset to the point there is nothing to differentiate them from other players .

This will probably won't change anything however but Stork saying this little things like " maps are bull shit for bw and kespa don't give a damn about bw " only made a fan boy for stork . He isn't all happy about the sc2 transition and the way they are forcing them to play in this way.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 23 2012 00:46 GMT
#113
This is so saddening...
Dammit Stork, I'm with you all the way! I wish I could cuddle and cry with you.
y'know what, imma switch to khan just cuz of this
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 23 2012 00:47 GMT
#114
On May 23 2012 09:45 Sawamura wrote:
Always considered stork as one of the more superior protoss in PvT,PvP maybe not so much in PvZ but his play is really inspiring . Seriously nothing gets me more hype than dragoons killing siege tanks line and only stork is capable of making this happen because in the hands of the commander dragoons become immortal and become the imbalance for the siege tank. Probably retiring of brave pushed stork in to this position or he had enough of the pushing kespa has been doing to them .

Previously bw pro gamers were only needed to play bw only and they were able to deliver jaw dropping action and quality games for the fans all over the world and now they have to play in this frankenstein league where players have to divide their attention span to two games . Sure some players may have that " I will make out of this I don't give a **** I will survive this BS".However not all of them can accept that the level of play is going to be reset to the point there is nothing to differentiate them from other players .

This will probably won't change anything however but Stork saying this little things like " maps are bull shit for bw and kespa don't give a damn about bw " only made a fan boy for stork . He isn't all happy about the sc2 transition and the way they are forcing them to play in this way.

This is a very good point.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
May 23 2012 00:58 GMT
#115
On May 23 2012 09:34 Release wrote:
Ok. I have been Jaedong fan for 3 years now. But i think i just became a Stork fan for life.
brb changing OZ icon to Khan.
Jaedong and Bisu defeatist attitude is shit.

Oh come on, you don't change your icon... once you choose the path of being sKyHighed you have to deal with it until you die.
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
May 23 2012 01:02 GMT
#116
Man, Stork is a boss! Glad to see him looking after his teammates.
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
May 23 2012 01:08 GMT
#117
On May 23 2012 09:58 empty.bottle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 09:34 Release wrote:
Ok. I have been Jaedong fan for 3 years now. But i think i just became a Stork fan for life.
brb changing OZ icon to Khan.
Jaedong and Bisu defeatist attitude is shit.

Oh come on, you don't change your icon... once you choose the path of being sKyHighed you have to deal with it until you die.

back to OZ but for some reason, i enjoyed watching "The sky also rises" a little bit more.
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natalia_shimanchuk
Profile Joined April 2012
Uzbekistan30 Posts
May 23 2012 01:10 GMT
#118
i love stork a lot, he is so honest and passionate, he is the yellow of his generation but he has been playing since 2005, and one of the longest careers in bw, he is experienced and he would make a good leader this won't make a difference but i'm glad players like stork can voice their opinions like this and take initiative and have courage
Pioneered so many ways to degrade a human being that it can't be changed to this day. Legacy so ingrained in the way that we think we no longer need chains to be slaves.
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
May 23 2012 01:10 GMT
#119
Stork lives up to his name, The Commander-in-Chief. Reading about the increase in workload ever since the hybrid league and all the players retiring in the last 6 months, he is right. Bisu, JD and Flash are all your typical yes-man type youths and JD is almost saintlike in enduring his problems without blaming anyone other than himself.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Sum41
Profile Joined November 2011
Chile345 Posts
May 23 2012 01:11 GMT
#120
Kespa is a shame -_-; i think Stork is the only one man enough to say this kind of things
Hydralisk so fasts and dangerous :D
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