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On May 24 2012 01:58 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 22:29 DeluXe1337 wrote:
I do still feel that BW is a pretty good game. The balance is good and the metagame is pretty solid like going mech in a TvP. If only most of the foreigners like mself didnt care to much on the graphics and had the multitasking to use control groups of onl 8 then i think that BW would still be great. However, SC2 was marketted towards foreigners. Aslong as people like Stork stay on the BW pro scene it will still be a popular game (unless sc2 gets LAN) Control groups are 12. Way to make it completely obvious that you don't know what you are talking about. If you don't even know the most basic facts, how can you form such a solid opinion? It's SC2 fans like this that post in BW threads that really get my blood boiling. "Don't have shit to say then don't say shit." - Pase Rock
isn't the more important thing what he is saying?and also that he is supporting BW.really this is why people hate bw elitist.don't be a fucking dick just because he made a small mistake.the message is the more important thing.don't u think?
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On May 24 2012 02:07 SlowBullets wrote:
Yup, the general trend: too many SC2 players saying they "loved" Brood War yet lack the basic knowledge of how the game actually works. Then they say they played it when they were 10 (probably playing Bunker Wars and other UMS all day) without ever following the pro scene.
I'm sure they love the game all right.
That's how stupid people work, what did you fucking expect from them?
On May 24 2012 02:26 randoomguy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 01:58 Jealous wrote:On May 23 2012 22:29 DeluXe1337 wrote:
I do still feel that BW is a pretty good game. The balance is good and the metagame is pretty solid like going mech in a TvP. If only most of the foreigners like mself didnt care to much on the graphics and had the multitasking to use control groups of onl 8 then i think that BW would still be great. However, SC2 was marketted towards foreigners. Aslong as people like Stork stay on the BW pro scene it will still be a popular game (unless sc2 gets LAN) Control groups are 12. Way to make it completely obvious that you don't know what you are talking about. If you don't even know the most basic facts, how can you form such a solid opinion? It's SC2 fans like this that post in BW threads that really get my blood boiling. "Don't have shit to say then don't say shit." - Pase Rock isn't the more important thing what he is saying?and also that he is supporting BW.really this is why people hate bw elitist.don't be a fucking dick just because he made a small mistake.the message is the more important thing.don't u think?
So it's elitist now to hate on stupid post by stupid posters? That's a stupid idea....
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On May 24 2012 02:07 SlowBullets wrote:
Yup, the general trend: too many SC2 players saying they "loved" Brood War yet lack the basic knowledge of how the game actually works. Then they say they played it when they were 10 (probably playing Bunker Wars and other UMS all day) without ever following the pro scene.
I'm sure they love the game all right.
Stop with the ignorance please, this is getting boring. If you see a brainless sc2 post, instead of commenting on it and calling every sc2 fan retarded, count till then 10 and move on.
You and the likes of you makes this forums shithole as much as idiot sc2 fans
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On May 24 2012 02:26 shaftofpleasure wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:07 SlowBullets wrote:
Yup, the general trend: too many SC2 players saying they "loved" Brood War yet lack the basic knowledge of how the game actually works. Then they say they played it when they were 10 (probably playing Bunker Wars and other UMS all day) without ever following the pro scene.
I'm sure they love the game all right. That's how stupid people work, what did you fucking expect from them? Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:26 randoomguy wrote:On May 24 2012 01:58 Jealous wrote:On May 23 2012 22:29 DeluXe1337 wrote:
I do still feel that BW is a pretty good game. The balance is good and the metagame is pretty solid like going mech in a TvP. If only most of the foreigners like mself didnt care to much on the graphics and had the multitasking to use control groups of onl 8 then i think that BW would still be great. However, SC2 was marketted towards foreigners. Aslong as people like Stork stay on the BW pro scene it will still be a popular game (unless sc2 gets LAN) Control groups are 12. Way to make it completely obvious that you don't know what you are talking about. If you don't even know the most basic facts, how can you form such a solid opinion? It's SC2 fans like this that post in BW threads that really get my blood boiling. "Don't have shit to say then don't say shit." - Pase Rock isn't the more important thing what he is saying?and also that he is supporting BW.really this is why people hate bw elitist.don't be a fucking dick just because he made a small mistake.the message is the more important thing.don't u think? So it's elitist now to hate on stupid post by stupid posters? That's a stupid idea....
The way he responded is nothing but pure elitism, if you want to lecture someone, do it on a way he wont be offended, not like you are from a glorius master race
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On May 24 2012 02:28 Darksoldierr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:07 SlowBullets wrote:
Yup, the general trend: too many SC2 players saying they "loved" Brood War yet lack the basic knowledge of how the game actually works. Then they say they played it when they were 10 (probably playing Bunker Wars and other UMS all day) without ever following the pro scene.
I'm sure they love the game all right. Stop with the ignorance please, this is getting boring. If you see a brainless sc2 post, instead of commenting on it and calling every sc2 fan retarded, count till then 10 and move on. You and the likes of you makes this forums shithole as much as idiot sc2 fans
I maybe a fucking hater but stopping people because they hate stupid post is just fucking stupid. Why would people ignore stupid people? They have to be rooted out! They infest the very sanctity of the whole point of good discussion of these forums.
On May 24 2012 02:29 Darksoldierr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:26 shaftofpleasure wrote:On May 24 2012 02:07 SlowBullets wrote:
Yup, the general trend: too many SC2 players saying they "loved" Brood War yet lack the basic knowledge of how the game actually works. Then they say they played it when they were 10 (probably playing Bunker Wars and other UMS all day) without ever following the pro scene.
I'm sure they love the game all right. That's how stupid people work, what did you fucking expect from them? On May 24 2012 02:26 randoomguy wrote:On May 24 2012 01:58 Jealous wrote:On May 23 2012 22:29 DeluXe1337 wrote:
I do still feel that BW is a pretty good game. The balance is good and the metagame is pretty solid like going mech in a TvP. If only most of the foreigners like mself didnt care to much on the graphics and had the multitasking to use control groups of onl 8 then i think that BW would still be great. However, SC2 was marketted towards foreigners. Aslong as people like Stork stay on the BW pro scene it will still be a popular game (unless sc2 gets LAN) Control groups are 12. Way to make it completely obvious that you don't know what you are talking about. If you don't even know the most basic facts, how can you form such a solid opinion? It's SC2 fans like this that post in BW threads that really get my blood boiling. "Don't have shit to say then don't say shit." - Pase Rock isn't the more important thing what he is saying?and also that he is supporting BW.really this is why people hate bw elitist.don't be a fucking dick just because he made a small mistake.the message is the more important thing.don't u think? So it's elitist now to hate on stupid post by stupid posters? That's a stupid idea.... The way he responded is nothing but pure elitism, if you want to lecture someone, do it on a way he wont be offended, not like you are from a glorius master race
Now, isn't this the pot calling the kettle 'black'. Puhhleeasseee, spare us your noble ways.
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On May 24 2012 02:31 shaftofpleasure wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:28 Darksoldierr wrote:On May 24 2012 02:07 SlowBullets wrote:
Yup, the general trend: too many SC2 players saying they "loved" Brood War yet lack the basic knowledge of how the game actually works. Then they say they played it when they were 10 (probably playing Bunker Wars and other UMS all day) without ever following the pro scene.
I'm sure they love the game all right. Stop with the ignorance please, this is getting boring. If you see a brainless sc2 post, instead of commenting on it and calling every sc2 fan retarded, count till then 10 and move on. You and the likes of you makes this forums shithole as much as idiot sc2 fans I maybe a fucking hater but stopping people because they hate stupid post is just fucking stupid. Why would people ignore stupid people? They have to be rooted out! They infest the very sanctity of the whole point of good discussion of these forums.
If you ignore stupid people, they will realise it and leave, theres a phrase, dont feed the troll, works just as good on idiots aswell.
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So, I'm curious. Why do people put up with kespa? I've never seen a single good thing written about them.
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On May 24 2012 02:28 Darksoldierr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:07 SlowBullets wrote:
Yup, the general trend: too many SC2 players saying they "loved" Brood War yet lack the basic knowledge of how the game actually works. Then they say they played it when they were 10 (probably playing Bunker Wars and other UMS all day) without ever following the pro scene.
I'm sure they love the game all right. Stop with the ignorance please, this is getting boring. If you see a brainless sc2 post, instead of commenting on it and calling every sc2 fan retarded, count till then 10 and move on. You and the likes of you makes this forums shithole as much as idiot sc2 fans
Umm.... wouldn't this require you to follow your own advice and not reply with a post calling this guy an idiot and this forum a shithole?
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On May 24 2012 02:36 I_are_n00b wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:28 Darksoldierr wrote:On May 24 2012 02:07 SlowBullets wrote:
Yup, the general trend: too many SC2 players saying they "loved" Brood War yet lack the basic knowledge of how the game actually works. Then they say they played it when they were 10 (probably playing Bunker Wars and other UMS all day) without ever following the pro scene.
I'm sure they love the game all right. Stop with the ignorance please, this is getting boring. If you see a brainless sc2 post, instead of commenting on it and calling every sc2 fan retarded, count till then 10 and move on. You and the likes of you makes this forums shithole as much as idiot sc2 fans Umm.... wouldn't this require you to follow your own advice and not reply with a post calling this guy an idiot and this forum a shithole?
If you bashing him, call him retard/stupid/idiot then you yourself will be on his same level. If you explain to him in a civil manner, no i dont think so. As for ignoring him, thats the best, since people tend not to listen on the internet
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송병구 , your tears always get me. Other stars may be better players, but you are the most lovely person.
<3 Forever, Pyrrhuloxia
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On May 24 2012 02:34 Mattacate wrote:
So, I'm curious. Why do people put up with kespa? I've never seen a single good thing written about them.
Because no matter how much everyone hates them, they're the only reason the Korean BW scene flourished and held together for more than a decade. They organized sponsorships, tournaments, set the rules down, coordinated events and map testing and stuff like that, and so on. In other words, without KeSPA, there wouldn't have been a legitimate eSports scene in Korea - instead, it would have remained a niche activity and would never have had its own dedicated channels.
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On May 24 2012 02:34 Mattacate wrote:
So, I'm curious. Why do people put up with kespa? I've never seen a single good thing written about them.
The situation is not black and white. They have done some good work in the past. An organization like Kespa is needed but at the same time, it could be much better managed.
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i feel like stork's comments are too little, too late.
we needed this months ago before they even thought of this transition, if not years ago. (thanks savior!)
i haven't been watching any of PL this season, but if the games aren't even GSL quality and the plans to switch to SC2 completely are already finalized, the players have no more power and there would be no reason to listen to the committee. if they all strike/quit, what's to stop the teams from picking up the new crop of SC2 players who give better quality games anyway?
On May 24 2012 02:34 Mattacate wrote:
So, I'm curious. Why do people put up with kespa? I've never seen a single good thing written about them.
because they do everything that allows pro starcraft to exist. these events, tv deals, etc. don't just pop up from anywhere.
for that matter, you never hear anything good about any owners association for any professional sports.
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On May 24 2012 02:32 Darksoldierr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:31 shaftofpleasure wrote:On May 24 2012 02:28 Darksoldierr wrote:On May 24 2012 02:07 SlowBullets wrote:
Yup, the general trend: too many SC2 players saying they "loved" Brood War yet lack the basic knowledge of how the game actually works. Then they say they played it when they were 10 (probably playing Bunker Wars and other UMS all day) without ever following the pro scene.
I'm sure they love the game all right. Stop with the ignorance please, this is getting boring. If you see a brainless sc2 post, instead of commenting on it and calling every sc2 fan retarded, count till then 10 and move on. You and the likes of you makes this forums shithole as much as idiot sc2 fans I maybe a fucking hater but stopping people because they hate stupid post is just fucking stupid. Why would people ignore stupid people? They have to be rooted out! They infest the very sanctity of the whole point of good discussion of these forums. If you ignore stupid people, they will realise it and leave, theres a phrase, dont feed the troll, works just as good on idiots aswell.
Don't argue with him. I've made that mistake too often. He's just a fucking hate machine that contributes nothing to his "beloved" forum at all.
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On May 24 2012 02:28 Darksoldierr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:07 SlowBullets wrote:
Yup, the general trend: too many SC2 players saying they "loved" Brood War yet lack the basic knowledge of how the game actually works. Then they say they played it when they were 10 (probably playing Bunker Wars and other UMS all day) without ever following the pro scene.
I'm sure they love the game all right. Stop with the ignorance please, this is getting boring. If you see a brainless sc2 post, instead of commenting on it and calling every sc2 fan retarded, count till then 10 and move on. You and the likes of you makes this forums shithole as much as idiot sc2 fans
Hey, this is the Brood War forum. If you guys want to bash BW then go do it in the SC2 forums.
Basically what I'm trying to say is, fuck off my turf.
Also, kind of sickening to see so much ignorance and baseless assumptions.
On May 24 2012 02:40 Darksoldierr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:36 I_are_n00b wrote:On May 24 2012 02:28 Darksoldierr wrote:On May 24 2012 02:07 SlowBullets wrote:
Yup, the general trend: too many SC2 players saying they "loved" Brood War yet lack the basic knowledge of how the game actually works. Then they say they played it when they were 10 (probably playing Bunker Wars and other UMS all day) without ever following the pro scene.
I'm sure they love the game all right. Stop with the ignorance please, this is getting boring. If you see a brainless sc2 post, instead of commenting on it and calling every sc2 fan retarded, count till then 10 and move on. You and the likes of you makes this forums shithole as much as idiot sc2 fans Umm.... wouldn't this require you to follow your own advice and not reply with a post calling this guy an idiot and this forum a shithole? If you bashing him, call him retard/stupid/idiot then you yourself will be on his same level. If you explain to him in a civil manner, no i dont think so. As for ignoring him, thats the best, since people tend not to listen on the internet
By the way, where in my post do I say SC2 fans are retarded? As previously stated, he's spewing false facts and acting like he supports BW (come on, you like BW yet you don't even know control groups have 12 units?), when in reality he probably doesn't even care.
And stop playing the holier-than-thou card please, it's getting pretty fucking ridiculous now.
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Great translating, Stork making clear on some huge things needed.
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what I don't get is why everyone thinks because Stork has spoken out like this that it's really a sign that ALL of the BW pros must secretly feel like this too but just won't admit it because of backlash or other political correct bullshit. I'm sure none of the pros enjoy seeing BW be killed off but I'm sure they're not all as forcefully against SC2 as Stork. Just like if BW fans here on TL can be split over liking/hating SC2 then why can't the pros? I'm sure some are actually pretty pumped.
Either way though it is sad that there's no player organization. Someone really needs to get on that.
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On May 23 2012 07:10 ii.blitzkrieg wrote:
I think I just became a Stork fan....
Dinotoss for president!
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On May 23 2012 22:03 OpticalShot wrote:
13 pages of attention already, I'm glad you brought this to our attention. So thanks for translating Ryo!
Stork telling them like it is, so proud of my hero.
Thanks 
Stork is indeed great!
On May 23 2012 19:59 MrCon wrote:
The MLG-Kespa partnership and MLG being basically the international agent for all KESPA's players could also reinforce those problems. In Bisu's interview, he say he didn't even knew he had to play a sc2 tournament at the next MLG >< It shocked me, but perhaps I misunderstood.
Yeah, a rather unfortunate decision made at the expense of player welfare.
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On May 24 2012 02:34 Mattacate wrote:
So, I'm curious. Why do people put up with kespa? I've never seen a single good thing written about them.
KeSPA built the BW scene. They may run it in a dickish manner now, but there'd never have been a noteworthy BW scene without them.
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