EPTStork: "There needs to be a Players Council." - Page 13
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If you derail this thread to argue about SC2 vs BW in any context other than that of the interview (e.g. saying things like "colosi suck" or "all BW fans are elitist jerks!"), I will ban you for at least a week, if not more. This is your only warning. I added this page 17 You have been warned ~GMarshal | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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theslayer922
Canada304 Posts
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
On May 23 2012 19:59 MrCon wrote: The MLG-Kespa partnership and MLG being basically the international agent for all KESPA's players could also reinforce those problems. In Bisu's interview, he say he didn't even knew he had to play a sc2 tournament at the next MLG >< It shocked me, but perhaps I misunderstood. I completely forgot about that but yeah I read that interview. God the last thing these guys need right now is to be paraded around as fucking show pieces whenever mlg wants them or a foreign tournament talks mlg/kespa into it. As much as several players have expressed an interest in getting to travel and enjoy new fans it really need to be on their terms and when they are comfortable with it. God this is possibly going to suck even harder than it already does. | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
If Stork is calling for a players committee, he can't be the only one that feels the way he feels. Hopefully more players are given the opportunity to express their opinions, even if they don't have 100 individual league wins. | ||
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StimiLant
United States534 Posts
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
You can't have the cake and eat it too. | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On May 23 2012 13:02 emc wrote: I thought Kespa was supposed to help out players more than anything? I mean, whats the point of even having a Kespa if it isn't doing it's job. Why are players untouchable within Kespa, but don't get the best treatment? maybe someone could clarify but yeah I think this is BS and stork is doing a good thing here. Hasn't KeSPA always been kind of infamous for bad player conditions? On May 23 2012 17:36 letian wrote:They work full-time as myself, God damn it. And I am protected by the labor union, I have social benefits and guarantees they didn't and probably will never have. I'm fairly sure they work a lot more full-time than any of us (hopefully). Everyone marvels at Flash's 14-hour training schedules, but that's messed up. A lot of BW players are going to be physical wrecks when they get older. Flash was literally hospitalized for BW-related injuries, That should not be happening. Boxer's already too messed up to play SC2 any more. I'm really worried that we'll start seeing stories in a few years that the first generation of BW is suffering massive health problems. There absolutely needs to be a players union. | ||
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Seluance
14 Posts
I'm of the opinion that progamers concerns should be at the forefront in a lot of situations, even above fans concerns because in the end, it is the progamers who spend countless hours practicing Starcraft. This somehow has made my intense dislike for the MLG-Kespa partnership on levels where I am willing to not watch MLG because I think it is severely detrimental for the 'health' and growth of E-Sports. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Stork telling them like it is, so proud of my hero. | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
Blizzard isn't the company it was when it made SC1, that's for goddamned sure. And Stork is the reason I started watching pro SC at all  | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2013 Posts
On May 23 2012 20:50 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: It was a bad idea from the start. You can't have the cake and eat it too. Specially, if the cake was a lie the whole time | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2013 Posts
Remember that it is well known fact that Kespa couldn't find sponsor for BW tournaments. Be it Blizzard, Sc2, Savior or the first World War, they would have lost their job anyway. Some saying, there should be a smaller BW tournament. But probably smaller BW tournament even has less chance to find sponsor -> teams has to disband -> more players lose their job. This way atleast they got a chance to keep being pro gamers and everyone got a fresh start. There was a comment before, that Stork said he likes LoL more than Sc2. Then go and play LoL. Noone holds him, forces him to play against his own will. Ofc hes worried about his future, who wouldn't be. But saying, this is the end of everything need to remember that Kespa couldn't get sponsor for T8, for tournaments. Either everyone lose their game or some loses it, some able to keep playing as pro gamer. I hardly doubt much of the current pro gamers could fine a decent job outside of gaming. | ||
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Alex-Berker
United Kingdom117 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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[Silverflame]
Germany640 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands5638 Posts
This new proleague really killed BW for me. Hopefully it can go back to normal where players get more input.  | ||
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Manimal_pro
Romania991 Posts
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hitthat
Poland2347 Posts
On May 23 2012 23:14 Manimal_pro wrote: I feel that Stork may be sub-par at sc2 from this interview. We shall see Maybe I understood this incorectly, but doesnt he seem to worry more about profesional BW players than game? Or just I dont understand your concerns? | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2013 Posts
On May 23 2012 23:22 hitthat wrote: Maybe I understood this incorectly, but doesnt he seem to worry more about profesional BW players than game? Or just I dont understand your concerns? Its all about what you want to read into it | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
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