EPTHe is one of the players that can go play some Angry Birds and kick the shit out of some S class the next day. Prepare like trash for the finals, lose and don't give a damn.
Dat Stroku, he is just so boss!
Taek-Bang Leessang - Page 4
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
He is one of the players that can go play some Angry Birds and kick the shit out of some S class the next day. Prepare like trash for the finals, lose and don't give a damn. Dat Stroku, he is just so boss! | ||
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doothegee
Korea (South)3011 Posts
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SoulTakerz
Canada353 Posts
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
On May 17 2012 15:42 Release wrote: Stork is in TBLS because if there was not TLS, Stork would be labelled as the only true Bonjwa. Off the top of my head, CLubday MSL, EVER OSL 07, Bacchus 08, Korean Air S2 2010 OSL. You forgot wcg's xD | ||
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pylonsalad
Canada649 Posts
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On May 17 2012 15:42 Release wrote: Stork is in TBLS because if there was not TLS, Stork would be labelled as the only true Bonjwa. Off the top of my head, CLubday MSL, EVER OSL 07, Bacchus 08, Korean Air S2 2010 OSL. It was GOMtv MSL Season 2. Clubday MSL was the one in 2008 where Bisu beat Jangbi. | ||
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cybertopo
Spain525 Posts
On May 17 2012 02:03 nadafanboy42 wrote: I think you really need to understand the history of the term TBLS to understand it. Someone who speaks Korean would know it in more detail, but from what I remember: The term Taek-Bang was coined in 2007. Stork was already considered a strong (perhaps the strongest) Protoss player, after the 3.3 revolution Bisu quickly became the undisputed best player in the scene. The two were considered rivals for the Protoss throne and said 'rivalry' peaked in the GomTV-S2 MSL where they fought against each other in the finals. The term Leessang was coined in 2008. After going 5-5 against each other in games spanning three leagues, with both winning the respective leagues where they advanced (Jaedong won that MSL, Flash that OSL and GomTV Invitational), Flash and Jaedong went head to head fighting for best player in the world. Flash being ahead most of the time until Gom-Classic S1 Finals where Jaedong beat Flash 3-0. At this time though Stork was doing a lot better then Bisu when it came to challenging Jaedong/Flash. Stork was in the finals against both Jaedong and Flash (x2). At some point, I'm not sure when but I'm guessing it was during the Golden Age of Protoss in late 2008, when both Stork and Bisu won a championship (OSL and MSL respectively), the two terms were combined into TaekBangLeessang. I agree that with the benefit of hindsight, if we were to now select the three best players of the post-Savior era, Stork would not be considered in the running, and the position of 4th best would be heavily contested by Fantasy/Effort or even others. However at the time the terms were coined, Stork was clearly the 4th best player of the day, still considered very close in skill to Bisu/Jaedong/Flash, and it was not at all clear Stork would be stuck to one gold and a personel silver-cartel. I hope that helps explain it, though this is of course just my version of things as I remembered them happening at the time.  Thanks again, very informative. Also LOL @ 'Bisu is only better than Stork in medal count', yeah ONLY, as if it wasn't the important thing. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On May 16 2012 23:14 2Pacalypse- wrote: This is his head-to-head score against each of them: vs Flash (13 wins - 14 losses (48.15%)) vs Jaedong (14 wins - 13 losses (51.85%)) vs Bisu (15 wins - 10 losses (60.00%)) Yeah for a while he had a positive score against all three of them | ||
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sharky246
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On May 17 2012 15:42 Release wrote: Stork is in TBLS because if there was not TLS, Stork would be labelled as the only true Bonjwa. Off the top of my head, CLubday MSL, EVER OSL 07, Bacchus 08, Korean Air S2 2010 OSL. Nah son you're forgetting a certain Ma Jae Yoon. MA BONJWA! | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On May 17 2012 18:51 rysecake wrote: He means now.Nah son you're forgetting a certain Ma Jae Yoon. MA BONJWA! Currently Stork would have been labeled God, if there weren't Flash and Jaedong. | ||
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b0lt
United States790 Posts
On May 17 2012 18:56 figq wrote: He means now. Currently Stork would have been labeled God, if there weren't Flash and Jaedong. Uh, you're kinda forgetting about fantasy, the guy who gave stork his last silver. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
 Now look at Fantasy's records (Gold+Silver at OSL, kicking Flash's ass in SPL final), and then at Stork's btw Jaedong's results are similarly LOL now, I guess we can as well just "retire" the notion of TBLS entirely  | ||
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
On May 16 2012 23:17 Kittan wrote: I always thought of Fantasy as the 'Gatekeeper' to S class. Even while he's contesting the #1 spot, he gave of that vibe 'if you want to have a shot at TBLS, you have to go through ME' kind of thing Note: Fanta is my favourite T, no contest. So blind fanboyism might be present. this is pretty much spot on though. edit: also, everyone, it's taek-BAENG (not BANG) lee-ssang. BAENG, 뱅, the same vowel sound as in taek 택. 뱅구 is a kind of nickname/dimunitive of 병구 (stork's name). i see a lot of people making this mistake. edit2: BANG-gu means fart, btw. another reason not to use it. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On May 17 2012 19:51 b0lt wrote: No, I'm not.Uh, you're kinda forgetting about fantasy, the guy who gave stork his last silver. By removing Flash+JD, Fanta gets +1 OSL, Stork gets +2 - he'd be the god today. | ||
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cybertopo
Spain525 Posts
On May 17 2012 21:10 figq wrote: No, I'm not. By removing Flash+JD, Fanta gets +1 OSL, Stork gets +2 - he'd be the god today. Theorizing about that seems useless imo... Maybe Flash+JD eliminated Fantasy in a Ro8 and then Stork in the finals, and if they weren't there, then Fantasy and Stork would have played the finals and yadda yadda yadda... | ||
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Motivate
2860 Posts
he was number 3 behind flash/jd throughout all of 2010 and is now showing the next best results after flash. yet people still don't see him as a good player or make fun of other players when they lose to him, etc | ||
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
On May 16 2012 23:17 Kittan wrote: I always thought of Fantasy as the 'Gatekeeper' to S class. Even while he's contesting the #1 spot, he gave of that vibe 'if you want to have a shot at TBLS, you have to go through ME' kind of thing Note: Fanta is my favourite T, no contest. So blind fanboyism might be present. Roro has long been considered the "S-Class" Gatekeeper in BW. Trust me on that. Fantasy S-class, 4 OSL finals and perfect PL Finals record. His vultures and minefields patrol the gates of the SKT1 Palace. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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