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scissorhands
United States68 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
On May 22 2012 23:30 hitthat wrote: Even if most of this might be true, the bolded part is REALLY arguable hypothesis. Fantasy's impact for terran metagame was significant. Fantasy, or iloveoov?  | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On May 23 2012 07:55 rysecake wrote: Gonna steal thread for a sec. I'm fairly new here. Only watched 3 seasons of proleague prior to the hybrid format without rooting for a team (i just rooted for jaedong =P) Now that the hybrid season has started I've decided to root for CJ. I hear alot about savior (good and bad -_-) and his rich history and would like to learn more about him as he came before my time. Anyone care to link stuff? Games, threads, etc. go to FE | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
Fantasy won an OSL and got to the finals of the OSL after than; and won Proleague with oov in the military, He's also on a tear in this OSL. The guy has innate talent; and while I won't deny that oov played a big part in helping him with opening the Valkonic route and mid-game Mech switch; he's way too solid and talented to be anything more than just a vessel. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On May 23 2012 07:55 rysecake wrote: Gonna steal thread for a sec. I'm fairly new here. Only watched 3 seasons of proleague prior to the hybrid format without rooting for a team (i just rooted for jaedong =P) Now that the hybrid season has started I've decided to root for CJ. I hear alot about savior (good and bad -_-) and his rich history and would like to learn more about him as he came before my time. Anyone care to link stuff? Games, threads, etc. savior made everyone think that it was pretty much impossible to beat zerg with protoss and made tl mods warn people not to post any more IS PVZ IMBA?? threads also zvt revolution | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On May 23 2012 12:46 alffla wrote: savior made everyone think that it was pretty much impossible to beat zerg with protoss and made tl mods warn people not to post any more IS PVZ IMBA?? threads also zvt revolution Could you elaborate on his zvt revolution? And compare him to the level of people like jaedong and effort? | ||
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fishbowl
United States1575 Posts
On May 23 2012 07:55 rysecake wrote: Gonna steal thread for a sec. I'm fairly new here. Only watched 3 seasons of proleague prior to the hybrid format without rooting for a team (i just rooted for jaedong =P) Now that the hybrid season has started I've decided to root for CJ. I hear alot about savior (good and bad -_-) and his rich history and would like to learn more about him as he came before my time. Anyone care to link stuff? Games, threads, etc. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=226236 | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
On May 23 2012 13:01 rysecake wrote: Could you elaborate on his zvt revolution? And compare him to the level of people like jaedong and effort? don't quote me on this but i think he was the one who integrated defiler usage? :x ^ probably wrong tho lol according to liquipedia he made zerg more macro oriented and also: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/SAviOr lol might probably have everything you need right there edit (moar links!) : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=226236 | ||
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Maximusjesse
26 Posts
As for ZvT, I think Savior was one of the first Zergs to go 3H Muta, although timings were slightly different, the ideas were essentially the same. I think before 3H Muta, Hydra Lurker was popular to counter Terran Bio. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
Good lord that's a lot of stuff in there. It's kind of hard to make an SC2 comparison. I guess it would be similar if infestors in SC2 were more powerful and became a hive-tech unit. And a build would be something like using muta-ling to harras and threatening base trade to keep terran in its base. Then tech quickly to infestors which are deadly against marine/medivacs. But the difference between BW and SC2 is that SC2 lair-tech zerg army can fight toe-to-toe with mid-game terran army. Something that they cannot do in BW. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On May 23 2012 14:15 baubo wrote: Good lord that's a lot of stuff in there. It's kind of hard to make an SC2 comparison. I guess it would be similar if infestors in SC2 were more powerful and became a hive-tech unit. And a build would be something like using muta-ling to harras and threatening base trade to keep terran in its base. Then tech quickly to infestors which are deadly against marine/medivacs. But the difference between BW and SC2 is that SC2 lair-tech zerg army can fight toe-to-toe with mid-game terran army. Something that they cannot do in BW. Look for the LR thread of the first Bisu vs Savior grand final and go through from beginning to end. Its actually hilarious. | ||
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Fishmalk
74 Posts
On May 17 2012 09:40 Lightwip wrote: A silver is insignificant compared to a gold. Many scrubs have gotten to the finals, only to be rolled. A silver means a bit more then, say, failing to qualify for the tournament at all, doesn't it? | ||
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hitthat
Poland2336 Posts
On May 23 2012 12:19 Ciryandor wrote: Fantasy won an OSL and got to the finals of the OSL after than; and won Proleague with oov in the military, He's also on a tear in this OSL. The guy has innate talent; and while I won't deny that oov played a big part in helping him with opening the Valkonic route and mid-game Mech switch blablabla and you should deny, becouse Fantasy himself denies Oovs asistance with his...how that was called by him? Denchanic? | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On May 16 2012 23:00 moochu wrote: Always felt bad for fantasy, skill wise feels like he should be knocking on the door of tbls. To be fair, I think he's been playing better than everyone else for the last several months. On May 23 2012 15:25 sluggaslamoo wrote: Look for the LR thread of the first Bisu vs Savior grand final and go through from beginning to end. Its actually hilarious. There certainly were a lot of guys who couldn't believe what they were seeing and saying how did this happen. I remember getting a good laugh out of it. :> On May 17 2012 15:40 SoulTakerz wrote: I accually agree with the OP, Stork should belong in fantasy/effort tier. The biggest difference you guys have to understand is these are the guys who usually carry a lot of the weight for their respectful teams. Not only that, but they tend to go very deep in tournaments as well. Even Bisu if we consider the time they started labeling them that. No smoke and mirrors. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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wassbix
Canada499 Posts
F-class.... Edit: The F obviously stands for Fantastic | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
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Kyrillion
Russian Federation748 Posts
he's way too solid and talented to be anything more than just a vessel. It's funny how you phrased it. | ||
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Kyrillion
Russian Federation748 Posts
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