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On March 24 2012 06:08 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 05:55 blade55555 wrote:On March 24 2012 05:51 Bebop07 wrote:
Been a fan and watched pro bw since about 2005 or so and I think it's a cool idea. I guess it's a possibility the level of play might drop in bw but..I'm not gonna lie even if they're not great it'd be awesome/hilarious to see flash/bisu/jaedong playing sc2 matches. That'd be entertaining as hell. I have a feeling that if this happens it will be mainly B teamers or something who play sc2 matches. I just don't see jaedong/bisu/flash or any of the top top tier bw players playing sc2 just yet. I don't think this is as bad as a lot of people in this thread suggests but I am not to surprised at the negative reaction, I am just glad they aren't removing bw or anything and am kind of excited for this  I could see mainly B-teamers and maybe a few low-level A-teamers with perhaps the occasional decent A-teamer playing SC2. Oh, and there might be some SC2 players pilfered from the B-teams of existing SC2 teams, if what Nestea is correct in what he said in an interview several months ago. The fanboy in me believes that Flash can probably dominate in SC2 or BW Zerg or BW Protoss if he felt like it since he is God, but even Gods have their limits (or do they????).
SC2 will limit God's potential, he will become just another common high skilled pro.
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On March 24 2012 06:07 Bebop07 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 06:04 corumjhaelen wrote:On March 24 2012 06:03 Bebop07 wrote:On March 24 2012 05:55 blade55555 wrote:On March 24 2012 05:51 Bebop07 wrote:
Been a fan and watched pro bw since about 2005 or so and I think it's a cool idea. I guess it's a possibility the level of play might drop in bw but..I'm not gonna lie even if they're not great it'd be awesome/hilarious to see flash/bisu/jaedong playing sc2 matches. That'd be entertaining as hell. I have a feeling that if this happens it will be mainly B teamers or something who play sc2 matches. I just don't see jaedong/bisu/flash or any of the top top tier bw players playing sc2 just yet. I don't think this is as bad as a lot of people in this thread suggests but I am not to surprised at the negative reaction, I am just glad they aren't removing bw or anything and am kind of excited for this That makes sense but hey..you never know. I never thought I'd see a guy offrace in a starleague and it happened lol. Yep it happened, and it was absolutely terrible. Maybe so but you know you were hyped as hell for that shit.
If we're talking about sAviOr playing terran to avoid ZvZ, no I was not 
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On March 24 2012 06:11 fabiano wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 06:08 eviltomahawk wrote:On March 24 2012 05:55 blade55555 wrote:On March 24 2012 05:51 Bebop07 wrote:
Been a fan and watched pro bw since about 2005 or so and I think it's a cool idea. I guess it's a possibility the level of play might drop in bw but..I'm not gonna lie even if they're not great it'd be awesome/hilarious to see flash/bisu/jaedong playing sc2 matches. That'd be entertaining as hell. I have a feeling that if this happens it will be mainly B teamers or something who play sc2 matches. I just don't see jaedong/bisu/flash or any of the top top tier bw players playing sc2 just yet. I don't think this is as bad as a lot of people in this thread suggests but I am not to surprised at the negative reaction, I am just glad they aren't removing bw or anything and am kind of excited for this I could see mainly B-teamers and maybe a few low-level A-teamers with perhaps the occasional decent A-teamer playing SC2. Oh, and there might be some SC2 players pilfered from the B-teams of existing SC2 teams, if what Nestea is correct in what he said in an interview several months ago. The fanboy in me believes that Flash can probably dominate in SC2 or BW Zerg or BW Protoss if he felt like it since he is God, but even Gods have their limits (or do they????). SC2 will limit God's potential, he will become just another common high skilled pro.
so true. sc2 is nowhere near the high skill level of bw, the ceiling is much easier to reach. this is why you have "top" sc2 players that are great at the game but cannot show consistent/dominant results against other top players (dont mention ladder, ladder is a whole different story in BOTH sc2 and bw). this is why sc2 needs to really wake up and turn around the gameplay with HotS and Void. Otherwise people cannot take the game seriously when it is too "easy". i assure you that if hots and void do not deliver some groundbreaking units or mechanics that increase the skill ceiling dramatically, sc2 will not even appeal to the Bw pros.
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On March 24 2012 05:51 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 05:40 StarStruck wrote:
I think it's more or less what media and society as a whole tells us. Better, more realistic graphics --> omfg we're in Heaven!
For me it's always been about the gameplay first.
1080p+ SC2 is nice to watch, but without the unit bars and shit, I couldn't for the life of me tell you how many zerglings are running in on that unprotected expo.
For me it doesn't matter what year it is. If the gameplay is incredible I have a hard time believing people cannot get into it.
I would avoid generalizations. I don't believe it's as significant as you believe it is. One of the reasons BW was so successful was the fact that anyone could play it. You should have seen the PC I started playing SC on. It was the biggest piece of shit and it could run the game smoothly. Likewise, that's how the Korean market felt too. B.Net was free, the game could run on any machine and the gameplay was fun as fuck. In general, people want to watch professional matches of a game that they not only play, but that they can play reasonably competitively. I'm convinced that BW's high skill cap discourages a lot of people from playing the game, and thus watching professional matches. (at least for foriegners) Sure anyone can play it, but it takes a significant investment of time and effort to be able to play it well.
That is simply untrue and what did I just say about refraining from generalizations? There are many people who don't play and watch BW. When PCBangs first emerged. It was all about BW regardless of skill.
BW is built for spectating.
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On March 24 2012 06:11 corumjhaelen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 06:07 Bebop07 wrote:On March 24 2012 06:04 corumjhaelen wrote:On March 24 2012 06:03 Bebop07 wrote:On March 24 2012 05:55 blade55555 wrote:On March 24 2012 05:51 Bebop07 wrote:
Been a fan and watched pro bw since about 2005 or so and I think it's a cool idea. I guess it's a possibility the level of play might drop in bw but..I'm not gonna lie even if they're not great it'd be awesome/hilarious to see flash/bisu/jaedong playing sc2 matches. That'd be entertaining as hell. I have a feeling that if this happens it will be mainly B teamers or something who play sc2 matches. I just don't see jaedong/bisu/flash or any of the top top tier bw players playing sc2 just yet. I don't think this is as bad as a lot of people in this thread suggests but I am not to surprised at the negative reaction, I am just glad they aren't removing bw or anything and am kind of excited for this That makes sense but hey..you never know. I never thought I'd see a guy offrace in a starleague and it happened lol. Yep it happened, and it was absolutely terrible. Maybe so but you know you were hyped as hell for that shit. If we're talking about sAviOr playing terran to avoid ZvZ, no I was not Oh =/ I was.
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On March 24 2012 06:18 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 06:11 fabiano wrote:On March 24 2012 06:08 eviltomahawk wrote:On March 24 2012 05:55 blade55555 wrote:On March 24 2012 05:51 Bebop07 wrote:
Been a fan and watched pro bw since about 2005 or so and I think it's a cool idea. I guess it's a possibility the level of play might drop in bw but..I'm not gonna lie even if they're not great it'd be awesome/hilarious to see flash/bisu/jaedong playing sc2 matches. That'd be entertaining as hell. I have a feeling that if this happens it will be mainly B teamers or something who play sc2 matches. I just don't see jaedong/bisu/flash or any of the top top tier bw players playing sc2 just yet. I don't think this is as bad as a lot of people in this thread suggests but I am not to surprised at the negative reaction, I am just glad they aren't removing bw or anything and am kind of excited for this I could see mainly B-teamers and maybe a few low-level A-teamers with perhaps the occasional decent A-teamer playing SC2. Oh, and there might be some SC2 players pilfered from the B-teams of existing SC2 teams, if what Nestea is correct in what he said in an interview several months ago. The fanboy in me believes that Flash can probably dominate in SC2 or BW Zerg or BW Protoss if he felt like it since he is God, but even Gods have their limits (or do they????). SC2 will limit God's potential, he will become just another common high skilled pro. so true. sc2 is nowhere near the high skill level of bw, the ceiling is much easier to reach. this is why you have "top" sc2 players that are great at the game but cannot show consistent/dominant results against other top players (dont mention ladder, ladder is a whole different story in BOTH sc2 and bw). this is why sc2 needs to really wake up and turn around the gameplay with HotS and Void. Otherwise people cannot take the game seriously when it is too "easy". i assure you that if hots and void do not deliver some groundbreaking units or mechanics that increase the skill ceiling dramatically, sc2 will not even appeal to the Bw pros. There's still decesion making and psychology/split second reactions in sc2. I think flash would still be the best, but no maybe not like bw.
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On March 24 2012 05:53 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 05:43 p4NDemik wrote:On March 24 2012 05:42 Xiphos wrote:
Only acceptable method to make this work is if Tasteless and Artosis are hired to cast this. Otherwise, no way this will take off to attract foreign audience. Newsflash. OGN and KeSPA don't really give a shit about the foreign audience. Its about getting the Korean audience (largely BW fans) to transition into watching SC2. We're not really a part of the equation. OGN has an English LoL stream. They want foreign viewers.
I was just watching it this morning. They certainly are trying to adapt, but that doesn't change the fact that their Korean audience doesn't come first.
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On March 24 2012 05:29 dsousa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 05:23 StarStruck wrote:On March 24 2012 05:19 cuppatea wrote:
Like it or not the graphics are extremely dated and that alone is enough to put off most SC2 fans. I don't see this bringing many new fans to BW at all. Here we go about the graphics thing again. That's personal preference man. If you ask me I prefer the rigid, non-flashy graphics of BW over SC2 anyday because things are more clear for me, but that's just me. I know there are a few others who feel this way too and likewise there are a number of people in your camp who repeat that shit too. It doesn't change anything though. If you are used to the setting and the game then everything is gravy. I'm used to watching both but I would still say its easier for me to identify objects and number of units in BW. Once again that's just me. I agree its personal preference. But if the graphics are so bad, you might as well be watching chess. 1080p starcraft is a sight to behold..... and its like chess from a strategic level. Chess is just as intricate as starcraft.... with even less visuals. The point is.... its 2012 man.... why settle for less? We have the technology... enjoy it  So, while I agree, it can merely be considered a preference, the MARKET has shown it to be a significant one for acquiring new viewers. Simply put..... your preference is in the minority I'm sorry <3
I like your line of thinking.
It is precisely because i can't settle for less that i can't tolerate/entertain the idea of my favourite leagues getting infested with junk at all. Why would i want my favourite players' and team's result getting decided/affected by some scrubs playing some other game?
Seriously though, i don't think this will change much viewership-wise, for both sides. About all BW people have tried SC2 out at one time or another. They didn't like it, that's why they are still here.
Most SC2 fans who can tolerate/enjoy Brood War would likely have made their way here by now, we won't get a whole lot more.
And seriously @.@ so many new faces posting whose posting history is 100% SC2-related.
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I like the idea but not the implementation. I love BW but I really wish SC2 would get good enough to overtake BW in entertainment. We have to step forward some time and SC2 has the potential, especially with 2 expansions yet to come.
Imagine if the BW pros and the Korean fanbase started getting a little interested in SC2. What if we had them helping to drive the development of SC2? I would think that would be the fastest, most efficient way to create a difficult-to-master yet widely entertaining SC2 end product.
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This makes me worried for their careers the same reason why 2v2s were removed . What about the OSLs?
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On March 24 2012 06:11 fabiano wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 06:08 eviltomahawk wrote:On March 24 2012 05:55 blade55555 wrote:On March 24 2012 05:51 Bebop07 wrote:
Been a fan and watched pro bw since about 2005 or so and I think it's a cool idea. I guess it's a possibility the level of play might drop in bw but..I'm not gonna lie even if they're not great it'd be awesome/hilarious to see flash/bisu/jaedong playing sc2 matches. That'd be entertaining as hell. I have a feeling that if this happens it will be mainly B teamers or something who play sc2 matches. I just don't see jaedong/bisu/flash or any of the top top tier bw players playing sc2 just yet. I don't think this is as bad as a lot of people in this thread suggests but I am not to surprised at the negative reaction, I am just glad they aren't removing bw or anything and am kind of excited for this I could see mainly B-teamers and maybe a few low-level A-teamers with perhaps the occasional decent A-teamer playing SC2. Oh, and there might be some SC2 players pilfered from the B-teams of existing SC2 teams, if what Nestea is correct in what he said in an interview several months ago. The fanboy in me believes that Flash can probably dominate in SC2 or BW Zerg or BW Protoss if he felt like it since he is God, but even Gods have their limits (or do they????). SC2 will limit God's potential, he will become just another common high skilled pro.
Eh that's not true. MVP was incredibly dominant in sc2 but due to his wrist problems he hasn't been practicing as much and as such has fallen off a bit. But even with his wrist problems before when it was there, but not as bad as now he was incredibly dominant. I do think flash/jaedong or a super gosu player can become dominant, maybe not to the extent of bw due to patches that still come out and what not but still be a top tier and not just a "common high skilled pro" as you put it.
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The idea is that odd numbered sets will be BW, and even numbered sets will be SC2. Seems like it will be Bo7 format with ace match, and ace match will rotate between BW and SC2 (not sure how it will work).
Yes, and i'm particulary excited about fridays, when third and fourth set will be decided by throwing sandals from the top of the oak tree into the bucket of mud placed 100 feet from the tree's trunk.
In case of bad weather those sets will be decided as usual, but the eventual sixth set will be fought betwen two randomly selected spectators who, wearing nothing but sandals, will play game of chess.
Nonsese.
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On March 24 2012 06:19 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 05:51 TheToast wrote:On March 24 2012 05:40 StarStruck wrote:
I think it's more or less what media and society as a whole tells us. Better, more realistic graphics --> omfg we're in Heaven!
For me it's always been about the gameplay first.
1080p+ SC2 is nice to watch, but without the unit bars and shit, I couldn't for the life of me tell you how many zerglings are running in on that unprotected expo.
For me it doesn't matter what year it is. If the gameplay is incredible I have a hard time believing people cannot get into it.
I would avoid generalizations. I don't believe it's as significant as you believe it is. One of the reasons BW was so successful was the fact that anyone could play it. You should have seen the PC I started playing SC on. It was the biggest piece of shit and it could run the game smoothly. Likewise, that's how the Korean market felt too. B.Net was free, the game could run on any machine and the gameplay was fun as fuck. In general, people want to watch professional matches of a game that they not only play, but that they can play reasonably competitively. I'm convinced that BW's high skill cap discourages a lot of people from playing the game, and thus watching professional matches. (at least for foriegners) Sure anyone can play it, but it takes a significant investment of time and effort to be able to play it well. That is simply untrue and what did I just say about refraining from generalizations? There are many people who don't play and watch BW. When PCBangs first emerged. It was all about BW regardless of skill. BW is built for spectating.
I'm well aware there are people who watch BW but don't play it, I'm one of them. I haven't touched the game in years. And sure, BW's insanely high skill cap makes it great fun to watch.
But here's the deal: BW fans seem to unanimously agree that SC2 has a lower skill cap and is an inferior game. But then how do we explain the explosive growth of SC2 as an esport in the foriegn scene and BW's still relative obscurity? You can say it's all based on graphics, but that's obsurd. Guitar hero has a decent pro scene for goodness sake; clearly graphics aren't all important.
So if BW is the superior game, SC2 has 1000x the audience in the foreign scene and at dozens more tournaments (some of them as large as SPL), clearly graphics don't mean everything--and if my explanation is incorrect then please give us your reasoning as to what it is about SC2 that has made it so successful outside of Korea where BW is not.
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On March 24 2012 06:22 duncan.mc wrote:
I like the idea but not the implementation. I love BW but I really wish SC2 would get good enough to overtake BW in entertainment. We have to step forward some time and SC2 has the potential, especially with 2 expansions yet to come.
Imagine if the BW pros and the Korean fanbase started getting a little interested in SC2. What if we had them helping to drive the development of SC2? I would think that would be the fastest, most efficient way to create a difficult-to-master yet widely entertaining SC2 end product.
Blizzard doesn't give a shit about constructive feedback. They had tons of it ever since playable alpha. Did they ever listen? They only talk and then just do their thing, usually ruining SC2 even further... What they're best at is telling people what they supposedly want. The whole bnet "2.0" fiasco is the best example. "Do you really want chat channels?" Now they should ask "do you really want a better game?" ...
I lost all my hope when they removed Voidray fazing and added Phoenix "moving shot"... This just shows their mentality and cluelessness. HotS won't make SC2 even scratch the depth and entertainment level of BW because their lead designer is clueless. He doesn't even know what micro is. He keeps defending utterly boring and microless units like Marauders, Colossi and so on. He's too proud to admit that many of his ideas are garbage. Take SC2's idiotic pathing for example... I can't find a single unit-replacement that's more fun to both watch and play with. Mothership? Hellions? Vikings? Marauders? Colossi? Roaches?
They completely ignored everything that made BW great. They shat on the whole BW scene by trying to forcibly replace it with SC2.
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On March 24 2012 06:18 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 06:11 fabiano wrote:On March 24 2012 06:08 eviltomahawk wrote:On March 24 2012 05:55 blade55555 wrote:On March 24 2012 05:51 Bebop07 wrote:
Been a fan and watched pro bw since about 2005 or so and I think it's a cool idea. I guess it's a possibility the level of play might drop in bw but..I'm not gonna lie even if they're not great it'd be awesome/hilarious to see flash/bisu/jaedong playing sc2 matches. That'd be entertaining as hell. I have a feeling that if this happens it will be mainly B teamers or something who play sc2 matches. I just don't see jaedong/bisu/flash or any of the top top tier bw players playing sc2 just yet. I don't think this is as bad as a lot of people in this thread suggests but I am not to surprised at the negative reaction, I am just glad they aren't removing bw or anything and am kind of excited for this I could see mainly B-teamers and maybe a few low-level A-teamers with perhaps the occasional decent A-teamer playing SC2. Oh, and there might be some SC2 players pilfered from the B-teams of existing SC2 teams, if what Nestea is correct in what he said in an interview several months ago. The fanboy in me believes that Flash can probably dominate in SC2 or BW Zerg or BW Protoss if he felt like it since he is God, but even Gods have their limits (or do they????). SC2 will limit God's potential, he will become just another common high skilled pro. so true. sc2 is nowhere near the high skill level of bw, the ceiling is much easier to reach. this is why you have "top" sc2 players that are great at the game but cannot show consistent/dominant results against other top players (dont mention ladder, ladder is a whole different story in BOTH sc2 and bw). this is why sc2 needs to really wake up and turn around the gameplay with HotS and Void. Otherwise people cannot take the game seriously when it is too "easy". i assure you that if hots and void do not deliver some groundbreaking units or mechanics that increase the skill ceiling dramatically, sc2 will not even appeal to the Bw pros.
There's really no truth to that at all.
Firstly, the skill ceiling is impossibly high in both games and will never be reached (or even neared) by any human being.
Secondly, the win rates between the top players in BW and SC2 are more or less the same. MVP, prior to succumbing to his wrist injuries, was enjoying Flash-level dominance and DRG has been winning more consistently in recent months than any BW Zerg. There's absolutely nothing to suggest that results are any more random in SC2 than BW.
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On March 24 2012 06:37 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 06:19 StarStruck wrote:On March 24 2012 05:51 TheToast wrote:On March 24 2012 05:40 StarStruck wrote:
I think it's more or less what media and society as a whole tells us. Better, more realistic graphics --> omfg we're in Heaven!
For me it's always been about the gameplay first.
1080p+ SC2 is nice to watch, but without the unit bars and shit, I couldn't for the life of me tell you how many zerglings are running in on that unprotected expo.
For me it doesn't matter what year it is. If the gameplay is incredible I have a hard time believing people cannot get into it.
I would avoid generalizations. I don't believe it's as significant as you believe it is. One of the reasons BW was so successful was the fact that anyone could play it. You should have seen the PC I started playing SC on. It was the biggest piece of shit and it could run the game smoothly. Likewise, that's how the Korean market felt too. B.Net was free, the game could run on any machine and the gameplay was fun as fuck. In general, people want to watch professional matches of a game that they not only play, but that they can play reasonably competitively. I'm convinced that BW's high skill cap discourages a lot of people from playing the game, and thus watching professional matches. (at least for foriegners) Sure anyone can play it, but it takes a significant investment of time and effort to be able to play it well. That is simply untrue and what did I just say about refraining from generalizations? There are many people who don't play and watch BW. When PCBangs first emerged. It was all about BW regardless of skill. BW is built for spectating. I'm well aware there are people who watch BW but don't play it, I'm one of them. I haven't touched the game in years. And sure, BW's insanely high skill cap makes it great fun to watch. But here's the deal: BW fans seem to unanimously agree that SC2 has a lower skill cap and is an inferior game. But then how do we explain the explosive growth of SC2 as an esport in the foriegn scene and BW's still relative obscurity? You can say it's all based on graphics, but that's obsurd. Guitar hero has a decent pro scene for goodness sake; clearly graphics aren't all important. So if BW is the superior game, SC2 has 1000x the audience in the foreign scene and at dozens more tournaments (some of them as large as SPL), clearly graphics don't mean everything--and if my explanation is incorrect then please give us your reasoning as to what it is about SC2 that has made it so successful outside of Korea where BW is not.
ffs man haven't I been down this road with you or someone else over a dozen times? I really don't want to keep repeating myself. There are many and I mean many other factors as to why SC2 is doing so well including shelf-life, more money in the system, etc. No where did I say it's all about graphics lmao.
FFS man.
Shit, I'm not going to look for that girl's blog on her trying to get into BW or to explain the phenomena, but many of my rebuttals can be found there. That blog is probably 3-4 months old now.
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On March 24 2012 06:11 fabiano wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 06:08 eviltomahawk wrote:On March 24 2012 05:55 blade55555 wrote:On March 24 2012 05:51 Bebop07 wrote:
Been a fan and watched pro bw since about 2005 or so and I think it's a cool idea. I guess it's a possibility the level of play might drop in bw but..I'm not gonna lie even if they're not great it'd be awesome/hilarious to see flash/bisu/jaedong playing sc2 matches. That'd be entertaining as hell. I have a feeling that if this happens it will be mainly B teamers or something who play sc2 matches. I just don't see jaedong/bisu/flash or any of the top top tier bw players playing sc2 just yet. I don't think this is as bad as a lot of people in this thread suggests but I am not to surprised at the negative reaction, I am just glad they aren't removing bw or anything and am kind of excited for this I could see mainly B-teamers and maybe a few low-level A-teamers with perhaps the occasional decent A-teamer playing SC2. Oh, and there might be some SC2 players pilfered from the B-teams of existing SC2 teams, if what Nestea is correct in what he said in an interview several months ago. The fanboy in me believes that Flash can probably dominate in SC2 or BW Zerg or BW Protoss if he felt like it since he is God, but even Gods have their limits (or do they????). SC2 will limit God's potential, he will become just another common high skilled pro.
He will be better than the common high skilled pro imo, but yea, still fairly standard.
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On March 24 2012 06:37 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 06:19 StarStruck wrote:On March 24 2012 05:51 TheToast wrote:On March 24 2012 05:40 StarStruck wrote:
I think it's more or less what media and society as a whole tells us. Better, more realistic graphics --> omfg we're in Heaven!
For me it's always been about the gameplay first.
1080p+ SC2 is nice to watch, but without the unit bars and shit, I couldn't for the life of me tell you how many zerglings are running in on that unprotected expo.
For me it doesn't matter what year it is. If the gameplay is incredible I have a hard time believing people cannot get into it.
I would avoid generalizations. I don't believe it's as significant as you believe it is. One of the reasons BW was so successful was the fact that anyone could play it. You should have seen the PC I started playing SC on. It was the biggest piece of shit and it could run the game smoothly. Likewise, that's how the Korean market felt too. B.Net was free, the game could run on any machine and the gameplay was fun as fuck. In general, people want to watch professional matches of a game that they not only play, but that they can play reasonably competitively. I'm convinced that BW's high skill cap discourages a lot of people from playing the game, and thus watching professional matches. (at least for foriegners) Sure anyone can play it, but it takes a significant investment of time and effort to be able to play it well. That is simply untrue and what did I just say about refraining from generalizations? There are many people who don't play and watch BW. When PCBangs first emerged. It was all about BW regardless of skill. BW is built for spectating. I'm well aware there are people who watch BW but don't play it, I'm one of them. I haven't touched the game in years. And sure, BW's insanely high skill cap makes it great fun to watch. But here's the deal: BW fans seem to unanimously agree that SC2 has a lower skill cap and is an inferior game. But then how do we explain the explosive growth of SC2 as an esport in the foriegn scene and BW's still relative obscurity? You can say it's all based on graphics, but that's obsurd. Guitar hero has a decent pro scene for goodness sake; clearly graphics aren't all important. So if BW is the superior game, SC2 has 1000x the audience in the foreign scene and at dozens more tournaments (some of them as large as SPL), clearly graphics don't mean everything--and if my explanation is incorrect then please give us your reasoning as to what it is about SC2 that has made it so successful outside of Korea where BW is not.
Forgive me but have you heard of this concept called.. "marketing"?
Blizz put a LOT of effort and money into marketing SC2 as the next big thing, new flagship of E-Sports and whatnot. Plus the legendary status of Brood War played no small part in attracting fans and their friends.
On an unrelated note, i recently heard (though, from a rather reliable source) that SC2's player-base has dwindled massively. That true?
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On March 24 2012 06:43 StarStruck wrote:
Shit, I'm not going to look for that girl's blog on her trying to get into BW or to explain the phenomena, but many of my rebuttals can be found there. That blog is probably 3-4 months old now.
Are you referring to the (not) magical blog?
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