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Screw it.. I've decided to embrace this retarded attempt at assimilation. Having BW and SC2 broadcast side by side will make all the boobs realise the huge disparity in entertainment and this'll allow me to shamelessly flaunt my BW elitism booty.
And then if the full transition to SC2 does come then I'll just fuck off forever. GOOD DAY.
On April 17 2012 09:21 QuothTheRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote:
-It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.] Will this mean that a player can't play the ace match unless he played SC2 in his regular set? So on days when a progamer's next game has to be BW, he can't play in the ace match unless he didn't play in the first 6 games? And if he doesn't play in the first 6 games in the hope of being able to play in the ace match, then he'll be in the same predicament next week if the team doesn't make it to an ace match :/
Cue KT is stuffed comments looool.
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On April 17 2012 09:23 elagrion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 09:17 FlamingForce wrote:
Kinda sad to see this, really. I've never really gotten into the BW scene but this just seems wierd, if people don't want to watch SC2 they shouldn't get it forced down their throats like this.
I recall reading a comic book once where the main character was actually a comic book character (Comicception oh lawd) and in one of the issues his popularity hits rock bottom and the salesman that always has the character's comics stocked becomes so desperate to get rid of them that even the purchase of a bar of chocolate comes with 10 free copies of the guy's comics.
Somehow, this scenario reminded me of that comic. BW popularity is not hitting bottom, it is still the most popular RTS in Korea, it is just sponsors.
Oh, I know that, that wasn't exactly what I was getting at.
In fact, it's about SC2 hitting rock bottom if anything, though that's also not the case.
I was pointing at the whole concept of buying something and getting something shoved down your throat with it that you didn't ask for and don't want.
It wasn't an analogy, just a little story on the side that I thought I'd share 
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On April 17 2012 07:32 gngfn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 07:30 An2quamaraN wrote:
To people that can't accept the end of BW: If You truly love your players you will love them no matter what they play. And from there, it's a short road to fall in love in SC2 too. With the whole pro scene in sc2, we're about to see different game than it is now. Of course, history is history and i highly respect that part of a BW. But the time goes on, and nothing lasts forever, besides those memories that you will keep dear...and it's time to follow the flow
So you'd become a dedicated fan of professional bowling if Boxer and MVP and whoever else all became professional bowlers, right? Because you truly love them?
who knows? mayby they would be awesome to watch at bowling? ;D
it's also a bad comparison as SC / SC2 are fairly similar and bowling is certainly not close to either of them.
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Russian Federation484 Posts
On April 17 2012 09:16 elagrion wrote:Funny though: and now Hiya, who don't need to practice sc2 (no team - no rules) will go on a huge win-streak 
No team - no playing in proleague?
This is about PL not OSL.
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OP, that source you provided no longer exists.
DES being DES as usual... <.<
No worries, I got another news source with almost exact same info.
http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/255/7907255.html?cloc
No GSL SC2 players allowed in KeSPA-run SC2 league for a year
I can't believe they're going this far to keep the illusion of BW players > SC2 players.
But then again, if they do allow GSL SC2 players to participate right from the start then their precious top-tier BW players will probably get their asses handled, inducing massive amount of disappointment from rabid Korean BW fanboys (specifically Fomos) and make them stop watching their league or worse, actually switch over to watching GSL and ditch the other one altogether. (I am hoping folks at PGR21 to do this, they seem to be most sensible among the BW communities)
The player must play SC2 match after playing BW match
Brace yourself for massively sleep-inducing boredom and "OhMyEyes" level of gameplay from both matches.
No one is going to be entertained as they watch this.
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On April 17 2012 09:31 chuDr3t4 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 09:16 elagrion wrote:Funny though: and now Hiya, who don't need to practice sc2 (no team - no rules) will go on a huge win-streak No team - no playing in proleague? This is about PL not OSL.
Which is what I think he is implying. Hiya now may have an easier time in OSL now that all the other players are forced to devote a portion of their practice time to SC2. Hollywood Fishking may rise to great heights.
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Russian Federation484 Posts
On April 17 2012 09:34 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 09:31 chuDr3t4 wrote:On April 17 2012 09:16 elagrion wrote:Funny though: and now Hiya, who don't need to practice sc2 (no team - no rules) will go on a huge win-streak No team - no playing in proleague? This is about PL not OSL. Which is what I think he is implying. Hiya now may have an easier time in OSL now that all the other players are forced to devote a portion of their practice time to SC2. Hollywood Fishking may rise to great heights.
Huh ok haven't thought it through then.
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On April 17 2012 09:23 elagrion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 09:17 FlamingForce wrote:
Kinda sad to see this, really. I've never really gotten into the BW scene but this just seems wierd, if people don't want to watch SC2 they shouldn't get it forced down their throats like this.
I recall reading a comic book once where the main character was actually a comic book character (Comicception oh lawd) and in one of the issues his popularity hits rock bottom and the salesman that always has the character's comics stocked becomes so desperate to get rid of them that even the purchase of a bar of chocolate comes with 10 free copies of the guy's comics.
Somehow, this scenario reminded me of that comic. BW popularity is not hitting bottom, it is still the most popular RTS in Korea, it is just sponsors.
Any sponsors would be hesitant to sponsor a decade-old video game tournament tainted with match-fixing.
Especially with the current social climate (Hurr durr video games are evil) in Korea.
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On April 17 2012 09:32 JiPrime wrote:OP, that source you provided no longer exists. DES being DES as usual... <.< No worries, I got another news source with almost exact same info. http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/255/7907255.html?clocI can't believe they're going this far to keep the illusion of BW players > SC2 players. But then again, if they do allow GSL SC2 players to participate right from the start then their precious top-tier BW players will probably get their asses handled, inducing massive amount of disappointment from rabid Korean BW fanboys (specifically Fomos) and make them stop watching their league or worse, actually switch over to watching GSL and ditch the other one altogether. (I am hoping folks at PGR21 to do this, they seem to be most sensible among the BW communities) Brace yourself for massively sleep-inducing boredom and "OhMyEyes" level of gameplay from both matches. No one is going to be entertained as they watch this.
I disagree, I love both games, love watching both, so going from sc2 to bw isn't going to make me mad or anything, I actually have no problem with the format. I just know people who only watch sc2, and people who only watch bw probably will
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On April 17 2012 09:41 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 09:32 JiPrime wrote:OP, that source you provided no longer exists. DES being DES as usual... <.< No worries, I got another news source with almost exact same info. http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/255/7907255.html?cloc
No GSL SC2 players allowed in KeSPA-run SC2 league for a year
I can't believe they're going this far to keep the illusion of BW players > SC2 players. But then again, if they do allow GSL SC2 players to participate right from the start then their precious top-tier BW players will probably get their asses handled, inducing massive amount of disappointment from rabid Korean BW fanboys (specifically Fomos) and make them stop watching their league or worse, actually switch over to watching GSL and ditch the other one altogether. (I am hoping folks at PGR21 to do this, they seem to be most sensible among the BW communities)
The player must play SC2 match after playing BW match
Brace yourself for massively sleep-inducing boredom and "OhMyEyes" level of gameplay from both matches. No one is going to be entertained as they watch this. I disagree, I love both games, love watching both, so going from sc2 to bw isn't going to make me mad or anything, I actually have no problem with the format. I just know people who only watch sc2, and people who only watch bw probably will
On one hand, the LR threads might be complete disasters with tons of SC2 vs BW flames going on.
On the other hand, the LR threads for WCG's SC2 Korean qualifiers were surprisingly tame compared to what I usually find in other LRs like for GSL or MLG, but probably because the Korean-only commentary scared off a lot of people. Perhaps the SC2/BW LR thread might be surprisingly tame if enough foreigners are scared off by the lack of English commentary.
Then again, Moletrap seems to be going to OGN, so I'm scared of the caster bashing flames in these SC2/BW threads if he ends up casting both games.
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Just make two different LR threads, would suit everybody better. I really don't want to have half the posts as "x so imbalanced", "who is this guy he's ugly", "omg this newb sux dick", etc
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On April 17 2012 09:51 1Eris1 wrote:
Just make two different LR threads, would suit everybody better. I really don't want to have half the posts as "x so imbalanced", "who is this guy he's ugly", "omg this newb sux dick", etc
Poor  Action...
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On April 17 2012 09:41 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 09:32 JiPrime wrote:OP, that source you provided no longer exists. DES being DES as usual... <.< No worries, I got another news source with almost exact same info. http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/255/7907255.html?cloc
No GSL SC2 players allowed in KeSPA-run SC2 league for a year
I can't believe they're going this far to keep the illusion of BW players > SC2 players. But then again, if they do allow GSL SC2 players to participate right from the start then their precious top-tier BW players will probably get their asses handled, inducing massive amount of disappointment from rabid Korean BW fanboys (specifically Fomos) and make them stop watching their league or worse, actually switch over to watching GSL and ditch the other one altogether. (I am hoping folks at PGR21 to do this, they seem to be most sensible among the BW communities)
The player must play SC2 match after playing BW match
Brace yourself for massively sleep-inducing boredom and "OhMyEyes" level of gameplay from both matches. No one is going to be entertained as they watch this. I disagree, I love both games, love watching both, so going from sc2 to bw isn't going to make me mad or anything, I actually have no problem with the format. I just know people who only watch sc2, and people who only watch bw probably will
Good for you, just don't expect GSL-tier gameplay for SC2 matches.
You'll be wondering if you're watching Kings of Tin instead.
And everyone knows how it's hard to switch back to BW UI after getting used to SC2's superior UI.
Expect eye-cringing, facepalming BW matches.
My sides are moving on their own imagining all these hilarious screw-ups resulting from playing SC2 and BW at the same time.
I bet my right arm that at least 1 Zerg player will lose while looking for a defiler mound in SC2.
I can almost predict how the casters and commentators will try to pretend it's good.
아~ 엄청난 경기였어요!
aahh~ That was an amazing match!
이정도면 정종현과 견주어도~
This level of gameplay is comparable to IMMvp~
정말 대 저그전 최강자 입니다!
Truly, he's the top-tier Zerg killer!
아 이제동 저게 뭔가요 스타2의 뮤탈은 짤짤이가 안되거든요 ~
Ah Jaedong, what's wrong with you, SC2 Mutas can't be microed~
토르에 다 녹았어요 !!망했어요 !!
They all got melted by Thor!! He fucked up!!
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United States7639 Posts
On April 17 2012 09:52 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 09:51 1Eris1 wrote:
Just make two different LR threads, would suit everybody better. I really don't want to have half the posts as "x so imbalanced", "who is this guy he's ugly", "omg this newb sux dick", etc Poor Action...
S+
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On April 17 2012 09:53 JiPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 09:41 blade55555 wrote:On April 17 2012 09:32 JiPrime wrote:OP, that source you provided no longer exists. DES being DES as usual... <.< No worries, I got another news source with almost exact same info. http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/255/7907255.html?cloc
No GSL SC2 players allowed in KeSPA-run SC2 league for a year
I can't believe they're going this far to keep the illusion of BW players > SC2 players. But then again, if they do allow GSL SC2 players to participate right from the start then their precious top-tier BW players will probably get their asses handled, inducing massive amount of disappointment from rabid Korean BW fanboys (specifically Fomos) and make them stop watching their league or worse, actually switch over to watching GSL and ditch the other one altogether. (I am hoping folks at PGR21 to do this, they seem to be most sensible among the BW communities)
The player must play SC2 match after playing BW match
Brace yourself for massively sleep-inducing boredom and "OhMyEyes" level of gameplay from both matches. No one is going to be entertained as they watch this. I disagree, I love both games, love watching both, so going from sc2 to bw isn't going to make me mad or anything, I actually have no problem with the format. I just know people who only watch sc2, and people who only watch bw probably will Good for you, just don't expect GSL-tier gameplay for SC2 matches. You'll be wondering if you're watching Kings of Tin instead. And everyone knows how it's hard to switch back to BW UI after getting used to SC2's superior UI. Expect eye-cringing, facepalming BW matches. My sides are moving on their own imagining all these hilarious screw-ups resulting from playing SC2 and BW at the same time. I bet my right arm that at least 1 Zerg player will lose while looking for a defiler mound in SC2. I can almost predict how the casters and commentators will try to pretend it's good. 아~ 엄청난 경기였어요! aahh~ That was an amazing match! 이정도면 정종현과 견주어도~ This level of gameplay is comparable to IMMvp~ 정말 대 저그전 최강자 입니다! Truly, he's the top-tier Zerg killer! 아 이제동 저게 뭔가요 스타2의 뮤탈은 짤짤이가 안되거든요 ~ Ah Jaedong, what's wrong with you, SC2 Mutas can't be microed~ 토르에 다 녹았어요 !!망했어요 !! They all got melted by Thor!! He fucked up!!
Whats wrong with the last two?
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Where does the notion that current BW pros don't want to play SC2 come from? I haven't read negative opinions from the BW players on SC2 in any interview. Seems a lot of people are projecting their personal disliking for SC2 onto the BW pro's themselves making logical constructions where they're coerced into playing SC2 against their will.
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On April 17 2012 09:56 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 09:53 JiPrime wrote:On April 17 2012 09:41 blade55555 wrote:On April 17 2012 09:32 JiPrime wrote:OP, that source you provided no longer exists. DES being DES as usual... <.< No worries, I got another news source with almost exact same info. http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/255/7907255.html?cloc
No GSL SC2 players allowed in KeSPA-run SC2 league for a year
I can't believe they're going this far to keep the illusion of BW players > SC2 players. But then again, if they do allow GSL SC2 players to participate right from the start then their precious top-tier BW players will probably get their asses handled, inducing massive amount of disappointment from rabid Korean BW fanboys (specifically Fomos) and make them stop watching their league or worse, actually switch over to watching GSL and ditch the other one altogether. (I am hoping folks at PGR21 to do this, they seem to be most sensible among the BW communities)
The player must play SC2 match after playing BW match
Brace yourself for massively sleep-inducing boredom and "OhMyEyes" level of gameplay from both matches. No one is going to be entertained as they watch this. I disagree, I love both games, love watching both, so going from sc2 to bw isn't going to make me mad or anything, I actually have no problem with the format. I just know people who only watch sc2, and people who only watch bw probably will Good for you, just don't expect GSL-tier gameplay for SC2 matches. You'll be wondering if you're watching Kings of Tin instead. And everyone knows how it's hard to switch back to BW UI after getting used to SC2's superior UI. Expect eye-cringing, facepalming BW matches. My sides are moving on their own imagining all these hilarious screw-ups resulting from playing SC2 and BW at the same time. I bet my right arm that at least 1 Zerg player will lose while looking for a defiler mound in SC2. I can almost predict how the casters and commentators will try to pretend it's good. 아~ 엄청난 경기였어요! aahh~ That was an amazing match! 이정도면 정종현과 견주어도~ This level of gameplay is comparable to IMMvp~ 정말 대 저그전 최강자 입니다! Truly, he's the top-tier Zerg killer! 아 이제동 저게 뭔가요 스타2의 뮤탈은 짤짤이가 안되거든요 ~ Ah Jaedong, what's wrong with you, SC2 Mutas can't be microed~ 토르에 다 녹았어요 !!망했어요 !! They all got melted by Thor!! He fucked up!! Whats wrong with the last two?
I'm just providing possible scenario of a BW player mixing up BW tactics in an SC2 game.
No offense to Jaedong fans, he's the first BW Zerg player that came to my mind, I don't hate him.
Anyways, at least it will be funny as hell.
Let's stay positive, people, positive! :D
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fuck this shit I'm really sad
Hopefully this fails terribly and they switch back to bw 
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On April 17 2012 09:53 JiPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 09:41 blade55555 wrote:On April 17 2012 09:32 JiPrime wrote:OP, that source you provided no longer exists. DES being DES as usual... <.< No worries, I got another news source with almost exact same info. http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/255/7907255.html?cloc
No GSL SC2 players allowed in KeSPA-run SC2 league for a year
I can't believe they're going this far to keep the illusion of BW players > SC2 players. But then again, if they do allow GSL SC2 players to participate right from the start then their precious top-tier BW players will probably get their asses handled, inducing massive amount of disappointment from rabid Korean BW fanboys (specifically Fomos) and make them stop watching their league or worse, actually switch over to watching GSL and ditch the other one altogether. (I am hoping folks at PGR21 to do this, they seem to be most sensible among the BW communities)
The player must play SC2 match after playing BW match
Brace yourself for massively sleep-inducing boredom and "OhMyEyes" level of gameplay from both matches. No one is going to be entertained as they watch this. I disagree, I love both games, love watching both, so going from sc2 to bw isn't going to make me mad or anything, I actually have no problem with the format. I just know people who only watch sc2, and people who only watch bw probably will Good for you, just don't expect GSL-tier gameplay for SC2 matches. You'll be wondering if you're watching Kings of Tin instead. And everyone knows how it's hard to switch back to BW UI after getting used to SC2's superior UI. Expect eye-cringing, facepalming BW matches. My sides are moving on their own imagining all these hilarious screw-ups resulting from playing SC2 and BW at the same time. I bet my right arm that at least 1 Zerg player will lose while looking for a defiler mound in SC2. I can almost predict how the casters and commentators will try to pretend it's good. 아~ 엄청난 경기였어요! aahh~ That was an amazing match! 이정도면 정종현과 견주어도~ This level of gameplay is comparable to IMMvp~ 정말 대 저그전 최강자 입니다! Truly, he's the top-tier Zerg killer! 아 이제동 저게 뭔가요 스타2의 뮤탈은 짤짤이가 안되거든요 ~ Ah Jaedong, what's wrong with you, SC2 Mutas can't be microed~ 토르에 다 녹았어요 !!망했어요 !! They all got melted by Thor!! He fucked up!!
You mean like constipated Jaedong?
They've been practicing SC2 on the side for months, I wouldn't expect newbie mistakes like that. Probably just a lack of refinement in their play and dodgy decision making.
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Katowice25012 Posts
This thread has run its course. Time for us to be done with arguing about which game people prefer until some actual news happens.
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