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StormSnarlX
United States278 Posts
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
On October 01 2011 19:13 StormSnarlX wrote: I just played a couple games, and man was it FUCKING HARD. It was just as fun as I remember though. I forgot how much I missed lurkers until today. However, I thought the D players would much better than before. Maybe I'm just unlucky =) Haha yea the first couple of games are a pain in the ass if you have been playing sc2 for a while. Like if the mechanics itself isn't hard enough, what about the fucking AI man... :D | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On October 01 2011 19:13 StormSnarlX wrote: I just played a couple games, and man was it FUCKING HARD. It was just as fun as I remember though. I forgot how much I missed lurkers until today. However, I thought the D players would much better than before. Maybe I'm just unlucky =) D has become a lot easier, a lot of the koreans have left and there is a lot less smurfing. | ||
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Game
3191 Posts
On October 01 2011 17:42 Navane wrote: Part of why blizzard allows it is because the version iccup hosts has no single player version. Running servers costs money, so maybe blizzer see's it as a good point that iccup runs their own? And of course BW is still awesome advertising for SC2: "You see Bruce Lee kicking like a boss? You want that feeling too but without spending 10 000 hours training? We've got the the right thing for you!" 100% _WRONG_ iCCup illegally allows the download of SC:BW, and their entire server is beyond illegal. However, litigation between the jurisdictions of Ukraine/Russia and the United States of America does not exist. Therefore, it would be impossible for Blizzard to shut them down. | ||
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NationInArms
United States1553 Posts
On October 02 2011 00:38 Game wrote: 100% _WRONG_ iCCup illegally allows the download of SC:BW, and their entire server is beyond illegal. However, litigation between the jurisdictions of Ukraine/Russia and the United States of America does not exist. Therefore, it would be impossible for Blizzard to shut them down. Are Fish and Brain also illegal? Because if so, we might all have to move the the actual servers (US West, East, etc) to receive any form of support or recognition from Blizzard (that is, if you want Blizzard to help). | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On October 02 2011 02:16 NationInArms wrote: Are Fish and Brain also illegal? Because if so, we might all have to move the the actual servers (US West, East, etc) to receive any form of support or recognition from Blizzard (that is, if you want Blizzard to help). Problem is without the latency patch BW is almost unplayable. The game has evolved to a point where latencies can mean massive balance differences in certain matchups. | ||
Harem
United States11393 Posts
On October 02 2011 02:16 NationInArms wrote: Are Fish and Brain also illegal? Because if so, we might all have to move the the actual servers (US West, East, etc) to receive any form of support or recognition from Blizzard (that is, if you want Blizzard to help). Blizzard has supported ICCUP and given it recognition in the past before. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=113649 | ||
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GentleDrill
United Kingdom672 Posts
On October 02 2011 02:22 Harem wrote: Blizzard has supported ICCUP and given it recognition in the past before. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=113649 This may be true, but more recently ICCUP TV was forced to change its name (currently to E-sports Vision) in order not to step on Blizzard's toes. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255646 | ||
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
On October 01 2011 19:45 infinity2k9 wrote: You guys going in op teamliquid on iccup or elsewhere? we need to reiterate this a lot CHANNEL: "OP TEAMLIQUID" in non caps  This is where everyone should always go. I have good success with finding people to 1v1 at the D level on this channel, and there is always people hanging out. | ||
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Falling
Canada11607 Posts
On October 01 2011 19:46 sluggaslamoo wrote: D has become a lot easier, a lot of the koreans have left and there is a lot less smurfing. I also wonder if, with the rise in traffic on Team Liquid, there's been a few more people trying it out. New blood would make D easier. As far as accessibility for newer players. There's a couple things that make it harder naturally and I'm not really sure how it can be overcome. There's instructions to play on Fish and Brain, but there is a lot steps including language packs, changing registry permissions etc. We have the step by step walkthroughs, but just by the amount of steps and the sorts of steps, it does make it harder. I still haven't bothered yet. iCCup has a good step by step, but one thing I've noticed is there absolutely no mention of port forwarding. I don't know for how many people this is an issue, but it's quite possible for someone to go quite a few seasons and never understand why people won't join your games. Port forwarding itself, although simple once you know it, does seem rather complicated you've never done it before. And itself could be a hindrance to playing. Both of these are technical issues and I'm not sure necessarily what can be done about it, but I think technical things can be just as much a hindrance. And the final thing is- we a have a few English casters holding it down like a boss and I wouldn't want to create extra work for them and have them burn out. But it would be nice if there were were a few more english casted vods- particularly of the Korean proleagues. Is there any way offloading the recording and uploading job to other people? But the main thing, is if there are a few english casted vods, I almost wonder if we had a dedicated thread for all english casters. The combined caster thread would be so that new casters aren't lost in the shuffle and because I don't think we have many casters regularly uploading like Day9. And if there is, then apologies to the caster, but that would also seem to indicate that we need better promotion in the BW General section. If there is a really big caster, then they could have their own thread. I don't know, maybe it's a dumb idea, but I'm just throwing it out there. The main idea is finding a way to highlight the various efforts that are already going on. | ||
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Emon_
3925 Posts
Also, as has been mentioned, more english casts. ESPECIALLY dual and tripple casts. These are the most fun to listen to because of the dynamics between the casters. This is where A & B level players can help out. | ||
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oo_xerox
United States852 Posts
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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Razith
Canada431 Posts
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dementrio
678 Posts
- streams. Few people stream and fewer talk while streaming. I don't necessarily want analysis, I want entertainment, so that I can spend my whole pitiful life watching BW and assimilating ideas / inspiration like I did in SC2. - I need someone to explain to me how to analyze my own games. I never needed this in SC2, because it's much easier to mass game and it's easier to track your improvement. But in BW every guide or game revolves around timings that seem mystical to the unitiated. Every guide says "do this if you feel you can achieve this". I feel nothing  Trying to use ladder doesn't work because I could go 10-0 one day and 0-10 the next one doing the same thing. - I want someone to republish stylish' fpvods. A few of those are on the nevake channel, a lot seem to have been lost. In general I want more guides like that, they are immensely helpful. I remember trying the fantasy build taking the liquipedia article literally, and my build looked nothing like stylish' although the food counts were the same. | ||
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deafhobbit
United States828 Posts
Anyway, what sort of tools would i need to go about doing this? | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
On October 02 2011 04:05 Emon_ wrote: What's missing from D-level starcraft is the social aspect. You ladder alone. Win some, lose some, check liquipedia - get back to your normal life. As opposed to a SC2 player that can probably spend days browsing the SC2 forums. If you ask for advice in BW, you get A, B level players with perfect replys, ending topics right then and there. So, a forum where new players can talk to other new players. Create clans, hold tourneys, advance together, challenge the seniors. Also, as has been mentioned, more english casts. ESPECIALLY dual and tripple casts. These are the most fun to listen to because of the dynamics between the casters. This is where A & B level players can help out. This is so true, I'm a d level player with no skill and no friends, and I have no idea where to go for the friends part. | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11602 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On October 02 2011 07:53 TBone- wrote: This is so true, I'm a d level player with no skill and no friends, and I have no idea where to go for the friends part. This is kinda why I've been putting off going back to BW as well. Other than TL (forums), options for connecting with other... human beings are somewhat limited. Especially of said low level.PS. Is it normal that the iccup website takes years to load, sometimes I have to refresh it several times in the process? And it's been like that forever for me tt. | ||
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