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iCCup TV dissolved, reformed under new name

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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 01:03:30
August 16 2011 19:16 GMT
#1
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It is with a heavy heart today I bring you some sad news. As of tomorrow, iCCup TV as a company will be dissolved. I want to first say while the actual execution was a bit ahead of schedule, this has been something I have been considering for quite a long time.

First off I am sure many of you will ask, "Why?" That is of course the always the big, and most complicated question so I will provide two of the key factors, in no particular order. While I only bring up these issues, there were quite a few small things as well, but these 2 major points alone justified the move.

Lack of support from iCCup, and the stagnation of the iCCup community
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For roughly 14 months iCCup TV has been running 100% independent of iCCup.com and any of their staff. We have received no financial support (or any type of support) in that time. This was while being expected to give a nice size of company ownership and profits to iCCup.com, which made sense at a point, but in the current E-Sports market no longer is acceptable.

Also and also more importantly the iCCup.com community has stagnated horribly becoming a land for games of the past. Most of anyone that was interested in SCII from iCCup.com moved onto one of the many new communities. Also most of the new traffic came in the form of DoTA1 users and almost no growth in SC2 or E-Sports. With the recent slew of good news for the MOBA community (DoTA2 with $1 mil, $5 mil for LoL, HoN making moves) there is no way the site will not have a similar issue when DoTA2 comes out where most of the traffic is actually just people hyped about the up and coming game, and using iCCup as a "warm up" for the next game.

These two combined factors made it so using iCCup.com as our partner for E-Sports did not make sense anymore.


Lack of support from Blizzard
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I will come out and say it, the iCCup servers ARE illegal. If they are good for the community or not is another discussion (I believe they are good), but they are considered by Blizzard to be "pirate servers".

I had hoped with the continued growth of iCCup TV we could either come to a solution with Blizzard. However we could not.

This past week we were covering the Battle.Net Chinese Invitational and on Day 3 were informed that we could no longer cover the event. We were very saddened, as covering a Blizzcon Invitational was a huge leap for us as a company, and we really love providing coverage of the Chinese scene.

So I immediately (3am my time) started reaching out the Blizzard branches all over the world: China, Korea, North America, and Europe to try and find a solution to the problem. We came to an agreement that leaving iCCup and the iCCup TV name behind would allow us to return to covering the event.

I agreed.

We have never received any support from Blizzard (have never asked for any either), but it is becoming obvious the advantages of having Blizzard support are quite large these days for events and companies like iCCup TV and the iCCup Map Team. We realized if we want to continue to make huge things happen, I needed to open the shut door that was between me and Blizzard. I have done so.


Now for the next question I know you will have, "What next?" Well that is the good news. Not much is going to change right away with our events or coverage, maps, or anything.

The only change you will notice at first (and possibly ever) is a different company name/stream link. The new company is called ESVision (E-Sports Vision) and we have a new stream set up at http://twitch.tv/esvision or you can also get to our stream by going to http://www.esvisiontv.com.

All our current events (like the Korean Weekly) will be moved to this channel and company. All maps will remain under the "iCCup" tag for several weeks (reason below), until they are moved to either the ESV tag or something else.

This will be a very very very painless transition as we have been running independently for so long. So you will not see a decrease in production, totally new and clueless casters, or the disbanding of the map team. It will be business as normal in every sense, and almost all our current staff will be joining us with the new venture.

So do not fear, this is at this point truly just a name change. Everything you have come to expect and love with iCCup TV and the iCCup Map Team will continue.

And now for the last major question I am sure people will have is "ESVision??" At this moment ESVision is a temporary company set up for only a couple weeks.

During these couple weeks I will be reviewing offers from companies looking to bring on me and my staff, as well as accepting any new offers from major companies. After these several weeks we will either choose a new partner to go with, or end up making the ESVision the new permanent home. This is why our maps will still remain under the tag "iCCup" for now. Once we find the permanent home we will rename the maps to either the ESV tag or the new companies tag. I am hoping we can find a major partner to work with that will provide us with the proper financial support we deserve to make our events where we want them to be!

One final thing is all iCCup TV assets minus the www.iccup.tv domain will be transferred to the new company to prevent tampering or account deletion. We know a GREAT deal of SCII history is stored in our VOD's and we do not want that part of history to be deleted.

So while I am sad, I am also very excited about the new opportunities that await us ahead! Word has already gotten out that this was happening and several very large companies have already expressed a huge interest! Either way it turns out (ESVision or something else) this will be something that will allow us to grow past where we could under the iCCup banner. Of course any time you leave something behind you have poured your blood, sweat, and tears is a sad thing, but this is good for us in the long run! We are here to stay in E-Sports, and many new doors have already opened just in the 48 hours behind the scenes since we made this official.

So I am sure you will all have many questions, and rest assured I will be here to answer them all. You are also always free to contact me via Twitter or any other contact method you have for me (I will have a new public email soon).

Edit: Poll about name

Poll: What do you think of the name "ESV TV"

I'm don't like it (602)
 
71%

I like it (249)
 
29%

851 total votes

Your vote: What do you think of the name "ESV TV"

(Vote): I like it
(Vote): I'm don't like it

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Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
August 16 2011 19:19 GMT
#2
Woah this is huge. You guys never got enough love for how much you contribute to the community. Can't wait for what comes next from you guys.
RIP MBC Game Hero
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 19:23:52
August 16 2011 19:20 GMT
#3
>.< Sorry that you worked so hard to bring up the brand "Iccuptv" to end like this, but congratulations on the new venture Pat. I'll always be around for whatever I can contribute.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Sway.746
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States95 Posts
August 16 2011 19:21 GMT
#4
Good luck in whatever you and your guys end up doing, Patrick.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
August 16 2011 19:21 GMT
#5
Wish you guys the best of luck in the future! I know that there were a lot of hard-working people at iCCup, regardless of some of the bad apples.
Wren
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States745 Posts
August 16 2011 19:21 GMT
#6
This certainly marks the end of an era. I'm encouraged to hear that the same talented folks will continue to lend the scene their talents!
We're here! We're queer! We don't want any more bears!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 16 2011 19:22 GMT
#7
I had a fucking heart attack thinking for a minute that the KR weekly's might becoming to an end lol

sad that you are parting ways from iCCup as an entity, but extremely happy that you are going to be continuing to operate under a new identity. You'll always have my suppor, best of luck!
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
August 16 2011 19:22 GMT
#8
Can't blame you for setting apart from the ICCup server. Today, the only thing they bring to the table is drama and a bad reputation.

I've liked the work you have done for the lest known branches of the SC2 community, with the small -yet very good- korean tournaments and the chinese stream. I hope you the best with ESVision.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
August 16 2011 19:23 GMT
#9
phew, I was scared that there wouldn't be any more korean weeklies. Good luck with everything!
Blanchy
Profile Joined June 2011
United States7 Posts
August 16 2011 19:23 GMT
#10
Wish you guys would have gotten more recognition for the great addition to the community! Best of luck!
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
August 16 2011 19:23 GMT
#11
It's so sad really, I almost always watch you guys host the korean weekly cups. The best players in Korea often plays and you don't nearly get enough viewers that you should gotten.

Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 16 2011 19:23 GMT
#12
Thanks for the support everyone!

Korean Weekly will be on iCCup TV tonight, the last ever broadcast!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
booshtv
Profile Joined June 2011
United States30 Posts
August 16 2011 19:24 GMT
#13
This is absolutely huge news. I can't believe that this happened and it's a truly sad day for the community. Hopefully some organization can help pick up the slack.

In the meantime, I look forward to updates regarding the future of ESVision or whatever they become.

(Try talking to EG, I hear they're hiring)
Micro > Macro > Micro > Macro ...
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
August 16 2011 19:24 GMT
#14
ESVision fighting! ^_^ I wish MLG or some other big ESPORTS company would sponsor you because the Korean weekly and the coverage of Chinese events are so nice! If it had a bigger name behind maybe it would get more recognition.
SaSe fan club manager
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 19:25:36
August 16 2011 19:24 GMT
#15
DUDE change the title please. Thought you guys were gone and moving away from sc2 not just changing companies. Didn't realise how independent you guys were. Just keep doing what you doing.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25987 Posts
August 16 2011 19:25 GMT
#16
Cool. Hope you guys are rewarded for your dedication.
Moderator
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 19:25:16
August 16 2011 19:25 GMT
#17
On August 17 2011 04:16 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
It is with a heavy heat today I bring you some sad news. As of tomorrow, iCCup TV as a company will be dissolved.

Dissolved? The rest of your post makes it seem like you are just renaming the company, I am confused.
brood war for life, brood war forever
Skiba
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany153 Posts
August 16 2011 19:25 GMT
#18
good luck guys
every zergling has a twin brother
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
August 16 2011 19:26 GMT
#19
Big <3 to the ICCUP guys. They've been bringing in quality content since beta and I don't see them stopping any time soon. Really hope some bigger group sees the potential in bringing you guys in.

Best of luck to the ICCUP, or "ESV" guys.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
August 16 2011 19:26 GMT
#20
honestly, it doesn't seem that bad of a change and it makes sense to detach from iCCup
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
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