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On December 13 2004 13:40 Beast_Bg wrote:
My post was NOT directed to you and was not intended to insult you in any way,but I still think whoever underestimates DAs is just wrong.Carriers in PvP would be unstoppable if not for the Dark Archons.Feedback owns templars.
My PvP is pretty good and certainly good enough to beat you.I don't need to prove I'm better than you.You wanted me to back up my words.I'm saying I'm a better protoss player than you are.Play me or apologize for needlessly insulting me.(or go to hell, I'm trough with caring about what idiots think and say)
Scouts do beat carriers but yes, DAs are sooooooo worth it vs carriers -,.-
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On December 13 2004 15:03 tree wrote:
I would love to play beast =\ you should sieze the oppurtunity to play great players as much as you get and not be so arrogant. There are many players who would die to be in those circumstances.
i play on gamei with players much better than beast all of the time. i was just making that challenge because he said i know nothing about bw. if he wants to be gay and say he'll only play me without his main race, that is an insult and i'd have to be an idiot to accept that. it's win-win for him and lose-lose for me. if u wanted to see the game get mad at him for not willing to play me in a real game, not me for not wanting to waste my time. =o --;
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On December 13 2004 12:03 ahk-gosu wrote:
the thing is that we have no adapted to units such as dark archons and ghosts.
there are no builds or combos that we have made up.
think of it like this.
before the terran blockade, the firebat marine medic combo was great vs protoss. however since the protoss learned that storms + mass ground murders them mid game, the terran adjusted by getting vults and tanks.
the zerg muta rush was also created to exploit weak cannons damage type.
its all about adjusting.
one day someone is going to figure a build for dark archons or ghost. i think nada had a game where he went infantry vs a terran. he had marines medics firebats and ghost. alot of gas went into the ghosts but the tanks were pretty much owned.
also the game with giyom vs the zerg ( i forgot the map it was in the pimpest plays thing) he would have lost if it werent for his superb useage of maelstrom and storm together.
every unit is weak to something. and every unit it strong vs something.
ghost damage isnt too bad either vs small units. especially considering their range.
scouts can kill air.
infested , although their low health may make them die to marines, can kill bunkers in 1 hit, kill tons of supply depots, murder the mineral line, and you dont really have to be winning in order to get an infested cc.
ive gotten one beforeafter killing an island on lost temple. and the game was pretty close.
Well said. I've seen games where T goes PURE infantry vs Z and they win, cause ghosts (in mass) do quite decent damage to muta-lings (since they are all small units). Combine that with the firepower of stimmed marines and a few firebats, you're unstoppable (vs Z).
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On December 13 2004 15:32 Famouzze wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2004 15:03 tree wrote:
I would love to play beast =\ you should sieze the oppurtunity to play great players as much as you get and not be so arrogant. There are many players who would die to be in those circumstances. i play on gamei with players much better than beast all of the time. i was just making that challenge because he said i know nothing about bw. if he wants to be gay and say he'll only play me without his main race, that is an insult and i'd have to be an idiot to accept that. it's win-win for him and lose-lose for me. if u wanted to see the game get mad at him for not willing to play me in a real game, not me for not wanting to waste my time. =o --;
haha corbalt u get no respect anymore huh.
like a year ago u were alot better known.
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On December 13 2004 16:00 SCFraser wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2004 15:32 Famouzze wrote:On December 13 2004 15:03 tree wrote:
I would love to play beast =\ you should sieze the oppurtunity to play great players as much as you get and not be so arrogant. There are many players who would die to be in those circumstances. i play on gamei with players much better than beast all of the time. i was just making that challenge because he said i know nothing about bw. if he wants to be gay and say he'll only play me without his main race, that is an insult and i'd have to be an idiot to accept that. it's win-win for him and lose-lose for me. if u wanted to see the game get mad at him for not willing to play me in a real game, not me for not wanting to waste my time. =o --; haha corbalt u get no respect anymore huh. like a year ago u were alot better known.
i couldnt care less
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On December 13 2004 15:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2004 13:40 Beast_Bg wrote:
My post was NOT directed to you and was not intended to insult you in any way,but I still think whoever underestimates DAs is just wrong.Carriers in PvP would be unstoppable if not for the Dark Archons.Feedback owns templars.
My PvP is pretty good and certainly good enough to beat you.I don't need to prove I'm better than you.You wanted me to back up my words.I'm saying I'm a better protoss player than you are.Play me or apologize for needlessly insulting me.(or go to hell, I'm trough with caring about what idiots think and say) Scouts do beat carriers but yes, DAs are sooooooo worth it vs carriers -,.-
Yeah, but too many things rape scouts.Several sairs are more than enough.
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u kill scouts with corsair as easy as mutas(since mutas suffer only 1/2 sair dmg)
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On December 13 2004 16:13 Beast_Bg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2004 15:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:On December 13 2004 13:40 Beast_Bg wrote:
My post was NOT directed to you and was not intended to insult you in any way,but I still think whoever underestimates DAs is just wrong.Carriers in PvP would be unstoppable if not for the Dark Archons.Feedback owns templars.
My PvP is pretty good and certainly good enough to beat you.I don't need to prove I'm better than you.You wanted me to back up my words.I'm saying I'm a better protoss player than you are.Play me or apologize for needlessly insulting me.(or go to hell, I'm trough with caring about what idiots think and say) Scouts do beat carriers but yes, DAs are sooooooo worth it vs carriers -,.- Yeah, but too many things rape scouts.Several sairs are more than enough.
The worst unit will have to be the scouts.... relative to cost and usefulness. Cost a great deal of money. Does little damage to ground. slow shoot time and easily owned. horrible build time.
unless you playing a money map a scout should never appear !!
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Seige tanks. Who uses those worthless things? 
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On December 13 2004 17:17 LastWish wrote:
u kill scouts with corsair as easy as mutas(since mutas suffer only 1/2 sair dmg)
i dont think so.
i think they take 100% damage. isnt corsair damage normal type? plus splash??
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On December 13 2004 15:32 Famouzze wrote:
i play on gamei with players much better than beast all of the time. i was just making that challenge because he said i know nothing about bw. if he wants to be gay and say he'll only play me without his main race, that is an insult and i'd have to be an idiot to accept that. it's win-win for him and lose-lose for me. if u wanted to see the game get mad at him for not willing to play me in a real game, not me for not wanting to waste my time. =o --;
Dude... Did you read my post ? I read all ur posts and as far as i know i didn't mean to offend you but you, you seems to not really understand that beast wasn't mentionning you in particularity. Do you understand my point ? I said that beast was mentioning to WHOEVER, and since we're in a forum we're not allowed to "flame" guys. If you want to prove anything to him then just pm him. That's why i thought that u should be banned.
Luhh you said that : "Yep, beast was full of shit. I would have to agree with famouzze, and Raiz, if you don't think what he said was offensive, then I don't know what is..."
Plz re read my post ? ^_^ I already said that beast wasn't mentionning to a specific person. Therefore this post should not be offensive. And we're in a forum we must talk about it with a little "respect" to everybody
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i remember when i just read these forums and hovz was posting, the maturity level hasn't improved much i see
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Well, let's let this thread slowly die anyway which is why I shouldn't post this really.
From what I can conclude here of people's opinions on units it's that there are in fact several units that are fairly crappy and a select few (infested terran, scout) that are borderline useless...
To famouzze and beast. That match wouldn't really prove much anyways since DA is not really a matchwinning unit unless playing an island map PvP or a PvZ game, and in PvZ it's such a risky choice that it's hardly a viable option and tech route. Honestly you should have your head examined if you go for DA in a PvT unless it's on BGH$$$$$ maps and the likes. So the one to win the game would be the one handling the basic gameplay best as per usual...
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Norway28642 Posts
hm I've played games where going DA pvt paid off.
wasn't fighting metal tho.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On December 13 2004 18:31 aSp]EvaNet[ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2004 16:13 Beast_Bg wrote:On December 13 2004 15:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:On December 13 2004 13:40 Beast_Bg wrote:
My post was NOT directed to you and was not intended to insult you in any way,but I still think whoever underestimates DAs is just wrong.Carriers in PvP would be unstoppable if not for the Dark Archons.Feedback owns templars.
My PvP is pretty good and certainly good enough to beat you.I don't need to prove I'm better than you.You wanted me to back up my words.I'm saying I'm a better protoss player than you are.Play me or apologize for needlessly insulting me.(or go to hell, I'm trough with caring about what idiots think and say) Scouts do beat carriers but yes, DAs are sooooooo worth it vs carriers -,.- Yeah, but too many things rape scouts.Several sairs are more than enough. The worst unit will have to be the scouts.... relative to cost and usefulness. Cost a great deal of money. Does little damage to ground. slow shoot time and easily owned. horrible build time. unless you playing a money map a scout should never appear !!
If you are fighting BCs scouts SHOULD appear -_-
If you are fighting carriers they would do well too.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On December 13 2004 17:17 LastWish wrote:
u kill scouts with corsair as easy as mutas(since mutas suffer only 1/2 sair dmg)
Except scouts have 3x the hp/shield and and do 3x the damage?
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Try and see the outcome of a 12 scouts vs 12 sairs battle.Its pretty.
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