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xCx
Profile Joined October 2004
Poland123 Posts
December 13 2004 02:15 GMT
#141
I think there is no worst unit every unit is useful but some are more expensive or just have to use them properly to be useful.
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
December 13 2004 02:29 GMT
#142
I dont think corbalt would get banned from teamliquid.net..
since he used to play under liquid`corbalt

I wanna see this grudge match.. i know corbalt used to be pretty damn good... Beast you should put him to the test, hes callin u out, u gonna take the challenge?!?
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
ahk-gosu
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)2099 Posts
December 13 2004 02:58 GMT
#143
On December 13 2004 05:39 LastWish wrote:
ahk-gosu : valkyries beating carriers? u must be dreaming...
pheered.user : build some battiers + Carriers and Scouts are going to have hard time in PvP, in PvZ corsair>>scout, PvT 1 yamato kills one scout...
[G]Max_Power : kakaru is actually better - it can fly;)


actually the valk has quite a bit of armor, and with the proper upgrades, can do a lot more damage than a huge group of goliaths can.
i bet that 12 valks and 20 wraiths can kill more carriers than 35 goliaths.

valks dont suck for the people who stated that.
wcg 2004. tvz xellos. the zerg couldnt even touch his valks on gorky island.

da is good but its really hard to use. but id rather have a da than a templar vs units like ultralisks.
the fact is that da cost 2 dts and ht is just 1 unit .
cost a lot of gas.

as for scouts. yea the price is imbalanced. id say that if the gas price was reduced and scouts sight range + attack speed was increased it would be better. or even increase its damage for ground.
i think the sight upgrade for scout is horrible seeing as how its a scout and it should have a lot of range any ways.
Micro.Macro.Scouting.Harassment.
ahk-gosu
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)2099 Posts
December 13 2004 03:03 GMT
#144
the thing is that we have no adapted to units such as dark archons and ghosts.
there are no builds or combos that we have made up.
think of it like this.
before the terran blockade, the firebat marine medic combo was great vs protoss. however since the protoss learned that storms + mass ground murders them mid game, the terran adjusted by getting vults and tanks.
the zerg muta rush was also created to exploit weak cannons damage type.
its all about adjusting.
one day someone is going to figure a build for dark archons or ghost. i think nada had a game where he went infantry vs a terran. he had marines medics firebats and ghost. alot of gas went into the ghosts but the tanks were pretty much owned.
also the game with giyom vs the zerg ( i forgot the map it was in the pimpest plays thing) he would have lost if it werent for his superb useage of maelstrom and storm together.

every unit is weak to something. and every unit it strong vs something.
ghost damage isnt too bad either vs small units. especially considering their range.
scouts can kill air.
infested , although their low health may make them die to marines, can kill bunkers in 1 hit, kill tons of supply depots, murder the mineral line, and you dont really have to be winning in order to get an infested cc.
ive gotten one beforeafter killing an island on lost temple. and the game was pretty close.
Micro.Macro.Scouting.Harassment.
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
December 13 2004 03:52 GMT
#145
Corbalt.

Me vs you Bo5 PROTOSS VERSUS PROTOSS .Im banned from useing templars and youre banned from useing dark archons.


Only problem is I'm too lazy to arrange a possible time to suit both Bulgaria and USA so I'm leaving it to you.
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
December 13 2004 03:56 GMT
#146
And for the topic - I've seen Zelias own Autumn useing Feedback and MindControl incredibly.But this shouldnt surprise you.Reach won Nal_Ra with Mind Control in OGN semifinal...
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
December 13 2004 04:01 GMT
#147
And by the way Infested terrans may suck 1on1 ,but in long 2v2 games, a Terran/Zerg team may do miracles with matrixed infested terrans. :D
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
Famouzze
Profile Joined June 2004
971 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-13 04:22:28
December 13 2004 04:18 GMT
#148
On December 13 2004 12:52 Beast_Bg wrote:
Corbalt.

Me vs you Bo5 PROTOSS VERSUS PROTOSS .Im banned from useing templars and youre banned from useing dark archons.


Only problem is I'm too lazy to arrange a possible time to suit both Bulgaria and USA so I'm leaving it to you.


that's stupid..you're a t player right? if you're using p then i'm using z. i want u to show me ur "vision of the game" is so much more accurate than mine...my best race vs your non best with random spitulations wont prove anything...i wouldn't be using dark archons in any case. i don't want to waste my time beating ur protoss just so u can say "well im still right because he hasnt proved anything my t would still rape him" play me with ur t. when u commented before u seemed very confident in ur assessment that i am a newbie for not agreeing that dark archons are awesome...why wouldn't you be confident that you could beat me with us both using our best races then? i was surprised in a sad way to see someone i thought was a good member of the bw community talking so rudely but now im even more surprised that u wont even try and back up your words...plz dont insult me by insinuating your non best race would beat my best race. play me in a bo5 with your terran vrs my protoss. and i promise not to use dark archons.
if u dont want to play me in a real game thats fine, just admit you were speaking out of ur ass and needlessly insulting. but i am disappointed u lack the cojones to put some meaning behind ur words...i c now ur just another trash talking newbie who gets on bw forums to talk shit to ppl who he knows he could never speak to in such a way in after a real game...oh well
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
December 13 2004 04:40 GMT
#149
My post was NOT directed to you and was not intended to insult you in any way,but I still think whoever underestimates DAs is just wrong.Carriers in PvP would be unstoppable if not for the Dark Archons.Feedback owns templars.


My PvP is pretty good and certainly good enough to beat you.I don't need to prove I'm better than you.You wanted me to back up my words.I'm saying I'm a better protoss player than you are.Play me or apologize for needlessly insulting me.(or go to hell, I'm trough with caring about what idiots think and say)
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
Famouzze
Profile Joined June 2004
971 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-13 04:56:12
December 13 2004 04:55 GMT
#150
haha yea right, unless you've stopped being a terran player i'm not going to accept your attempt to dodge playing me and insult me at the same time. if u want to pvz me i will, but it would be a waste of time and won't prove anything. clearly u don't have the balls to play me with ur best race vrs my best race...so i'm through caring also. youve proven yourself to be what i described, one of those ppl who talks shit on forums cause he cant back it up on b.net.

i dunno how you can say "you have no vision of the game whatsoever" wasnt intended to be insulting, but oh well. if u are going to be a pussy and backpedal over your words rather than back them up there's nothing i can do about that
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
December 13 2004 05:00 GMT
#151
Then go to hell.
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
December 13 2004 05:02 GMT
#152
... corbalt if you're so confident why dont u just own his P?
so he thinks hes good enough with toss? big deal, let him pick whatever race he wants. is your pvp weak or something?
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
GogUMagog
Profile Joined April 2003
United States90 Posts
December 13 2004 05:03 GMT
#153
Am I the only one who doesn't understand why Corbalt won't just PvP beast? Seems to me like if he wins and Beast tries to say "well, it wasn't my best race" that will clearly be idiotic given this exchange, but if Beast wins, then Corbalt would have no excuses. Just play and win.
Famouzze
Profile Joined June 2004
971 Posts
December 13 2004 05:06 GMT
#154
On December 13 2004 14:02 SCFraser wrote:
... corbalt if you're so confident why dont u just own his P?
so he thinks hes good enough with toss? big deal, let him pick whatever race he wants. is your pvp weak or something?


think about it. if i win i've proven nothing and for all anyone knows beast is still better at bw than me. if i lose i've embarrassed myself. why do u think he made the offer?
miniStar
Profile Joined June 2004
Finland143 Posts
December 13 2004 05:19 GMT
#155
the worst unit in btw is definitely the hallucinated broodling. or maybe hallucinated overlord, without speed upgrade. why? think this is silly to ask. :p
StarCraft est magistra vitae
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
December 13 2004 05:25 GMT
#156
On December 13 2004 14:06 Famouzze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2004 14:02 SCFraser wrote:
... corbalt if you're so confident why dont u just own his P?
so he thinks hes good enough with toss? big deal, let him pick whatever race he wants. is your pvp weak or something?


think about it. if i win i've proven nothing and for all anyone knows beast is still better at bw than me. if i lose i've embarrassed myself. why do u think he made the offer?


Thats one way to look at it.. but heres another way:
If u win, then beast looks like an idiot for not backin up his mouth, and being arrogant enough to play with his 2nd best race.
If u lose, not too much shame... Beast is a good player.
1 best of 5 wouldnt prove anything anyway, if someone wins 3-2 its hard to say whos better.

Anyway match>>no match.
if u wanna pick z then do it, since when does your opponent have any say on your race in bw?
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
RedMeat
Profile Joined September 2002
United Kingdom490 Posts
December 13 2004 05:52 GMT
#157
Yeah play him PvP under the rules he said. Your disagreement was about usefulness of units more than BW skill so make him prove himself right or prove you wrong!!!
I am the mirror, I am the destiny, I am the herald that points the way...
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10535 Posts
December 13 2004 05:56 GMT
#158
On December 13 2004 11:58 ahk-gosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2004 05:39 LastWish wrote:
ahk-gosu : valkyries beating carriers? u must be dreaming...
pheered.user : build some battiers + Carriers and Scouts are going to have hard time in PvP, in PvZ corsair>>scout, PvT 1 yamato kills one scout...
[G]Max_Power : kakaru is actually better - it can fly;)


actually the valk has quite a bit of armor, and with the proper upgrades, can do a lot more damage than a huge group of goliaths can.
i bet that 12 valks and 20 wraiths can kill more carriers than 35 goliaths.



20wraiths + 12+ valks cost a bazillion times more than 35 goliahts, and goliaths are way safer, with wraiths you are risking a lot.
Im back, in pog form!
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10535 Posts
December 13 2004 06:02 GMT
#159
corbalt is a wuss
Im back, in pog form!
tree
Profile Joined October 2004
United States591 Posts
December 13 2004 06:03 GMT
#160
I would love to play beast =\ you should sieze the oppurtunity to play great players as much as you get and not be so arrogant. There are many players who would die to be in those circumstances.
1 month w/o BW = Hell
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