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United States4182 Posts
On December 15 2004 02:52 LastWish wrote: Well i don't think DA would be used more in the future unless mealstrom 75. i think its disgusting that you get 6 maels for twice as many psi storms in terms of gas cost (3 DAs vs 4 templar = 600 gas each), and when you factor in minerals and morphing time its even worse =\. | ||
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Freezer_au
Australia1461 Posts
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LastWish
2015 Posts
On December 15 2004 03:32 Locked wrote: i think its disgusting that you get 6 maels for twice as many psi storms in terms of gas cost (3 DAs vs 4 templar = 600 gas each), and when you factor in minerals and morphing time its even worse =\. Very true - i've counted the exact times : DA - 50+50+20(2 DT + morphing time)=120 other casters : Arbiter - 160 HT - 50 Defiler - 50 Science Vessel - 80 | ||
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Beast_Bg
Bulgaria1623 Posts
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LastWish
2015 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28727 Posts
what ive done a couple of times is build 2 dts that I use for expansionscouting, then if I end up not finding any, I bring them back home and morph DA works pretty well | ||
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HnR)Pride
Canada297 Posts
I do, however, think that ghosts are underused in TvZ. An infantry unit with the same range as lurkers? I mean how useful is that! They could make a TvZ army very mobile if used properly I imagine. | ||
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LastWish
2015 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Ghost range is 7 without ocular implants or with? | ||
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LastWish
2015 Posts
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Famouzze
971 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Psi storm finnished. Da mana 100~ish. HT mana goes 75. Mael. Storm. Sair, BOOM :D! I freaked out and made 2 sairs but I lost one before I could do anything anyways, could have been even more cost effective :O Let's just say he didn't mutalisk rush the next game ^_^ However, I did lose because of my HT acting retarded among other things, was a fairly long and close game though. I had no idea the timing of mael rush was so PERFECT vs 3 hatch muta :O! | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
On December 15 2004 10:52 Famouzze wrote: strange that ppl are saying ghost...ghosts are incredibly effective in every pvt where the toss goes carriers that i've ever seen them used. as eri already pointed out, in a long game you have a science facility and an acad of course already, so the added on covert ops with lockdown is incredibly inexpensive, likewise for ghosts themselves, 25/75, thats nothing. then u need to wait just a little while to have one lockdown. guys, one lockdown = ONE DEAD CARRIER. that's it, the toss can't do anything if he's doing hit and runs as usual and then while he's near your units you lock one of the carriers. so it's 25/75 that kills an entire carrier, then it probably didn't even die and you can use it again. that is so incredibly useful, i have no idea why anyone other than zerg users could be saying ghosts are bad. fuck nuke, nuke is terrible, but lockdown OWNS carriers in the most cost effective way imaginably. Corbalt, I've had a lot of respect for you from the time on when Br.com was still the only way (known to me at least) to read/learn stuff about broodwar games. I would want you to take a step back and really look at what you've written in this thread. 1. DA= useless That is simply dumb. You MIGHT have been refering to TvP, at least I assume that from the way you keep bothering Beast, but you KNOW that feedback is simply awesome in PvP and Mindcontrol has some uses as well. 2. The beast issue What actually is happening is Beast wanting to prove that DA=good, thus demanding a matchup where this is easy to be done (PvP). You keep insisting on TvP and picking on some minor flames he added in his post. That is not to the point of this thread/backing up your rants about the DA. And since he claimed that his PvP is better than yours you can still "prove" sth. by beating him. 3. Ghosts... You point out that Ghosts are really good when fighting Carriers... This seems kind of hypocritical after you denied the uses of the DA in certain matchups/situations. Basically if Beast now came up and challenged you to a TvZ where you use Ghosts would be the same thing that you did before. I'm not taking any sides here. I just think that you're wrong and smart enough to see it, which is why I'm actually bothering to write such a long reply. To what point I'm not really sure though... gl hf | ||
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Famouzze
971 Posts
so who cares, beast is only willing to play me with his worst race because he knows he'd look like a fool if we played a real game and i won. he's a pussy who won't back up his words and everyone knows it...now it's over so let it die. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On December 15 2004 10:41 LastWish wrote: ocular does not upgrade attack range only sight range Yeah, I was just thinking maybe they were like tank and could shoot just a bit outside their vis. Anyway, thanks for info. | ||
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LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
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Tossim1
714 Posts
On December 12 2004 17:19 LetMeBeWithYou wrote: hahaha owned and whos that famouzzzz guy? corbalt i think | ||
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Tossim1
714 Posts
On December 13 2004 05:12 Famouzze wrote: i guess he's busy owning people with Mind Control...rofl what a sad kid, i thought only americans talked so much shit and then failed to back it up  atleast most americans would make an attempt at showing they're not full of shit by 1:1ing...atleast now we know who really has no vision of the game whatsoever: the luckiest wcg participant in history. um wtf cares if he got lucky. everyone does, just because he didn't get the hardest brackets doesn't mean shit. he got paid $1000+, did u? | ||
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FroST(TE)
United States909 Posts
he said what he thought the worst unit is in the game - and it very well may be. as good as it can be in situations, it still pales in comparison to the overall usage of most units. im sure that i probably use DA's more than almost anybody on this whole board and i can still say that the amount of times that dropping 2 Dt's for a DA is a strong plus is hard to find. and to people calling corbalt a puss, honestly what beast said is a slap in the face. even if corbalt won 4-(pvp)1 it would still be a loss for him. ps - i saw corbalt use a DA pvt on gorky at WCG prelims kaka~ | ||
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Tossim1
714 Posts
lets just say every unit has its purpose and bedone with this thread, because we're going no where | ||
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