EPT[Interview] DES talks with Bisu and Stork 11/16/10 - Page 3
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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PineappleLumpsToss
New Zealand2434 Posts
It's clear the two have a mutual respect for each other, and they still look to be the most likely Toss players to beat Leesang in the individual leagues. Stork's form so far has been a bit worrying, but maybe somebody will take his phone off him and he'll get his focus back. WTB Flash-Stork and Bisu-JD semis this season. | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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kawatan
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Thorin
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On November 17 2010 13:41 PineappleLumpsToss wrote: WTB Flash-Stork and Bisu-JD semis this season. YES! When you consider how good Bisu's PvZ is and Jaedong's ZvP it's kinda irritating the two didn't meet in OSL or MSL semis/finals during their peaks so we could have seen some epic Bo5s*. Instead there was just the GOM special match which turned out to be a big tease due to set5. * Fantasy ruined my dream during the 2009 Batoo OSL ;_; | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On November 17 2010 13:48 kawatan wrote: anyone got the link to the bisu-stork hug with bisu thoroughly relishing the moment? 6:10 or so. | ||
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kawatan
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thank you! | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Thanks for translating! | ||
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
In comparison, although PvZ is hard, Zerg has no units with massive range like siege tanks, so the matchup feels doable. (laughs) I’ve always been scared of tanks; when I see them I have to play very carefully. In PvZ, you can use corsairs to scout the opponent and react accordingly, but in PvT you can’t use that strategy so there’s an uneasy feeling of not knowing what the opponent is doing. That’s why my PvT is so terrible. Wow, Bisu. This is exactly how I feel too. It's so hard to scout in PvT and tanks are just so scary. I'm pretty sure Bisu can go head to head with Jaedong, but Flash seems tough to break. But I think the answer is out there. Protoss have the most interesting unit composition imo, so there's a lot of potential. This makes them a lot harder to perfect, since they rely on the special units, but still. I can see Dark Archons being used with Arbiters to feedback and eliminate Science Vessels. Dark Archons can also be used to mind control "key siege tanks" in a tank line. For instance, if three tanks are pretty close to eachother, and there are a lot of tanks in shooting range, you just have to mind control one of them, and then the other tanks are shoot all three down. This works like Zealot drops, only you don't have to worry about anti-air. I can see Corsairs with Disruption Web being used with Carriers when you are going up against mass-goliaths. I also think Hallucination is underrated. I have used hallucinated Arbiters a lot when I want to force a recall. PvT is generally not very gas-heavy, so you can afford that. Imagine that you park a dragoon army with a few templars for storm just outside of the terran ball, then you send a arbiter and recall a ton of zealots on top of their tanks. After that you send in your dragoons and storm all over the place. I just can't see the Terran coming out on top. What makes PvT hard is like Bisu said, the range of Siege Tanks. I think Arbiters are key. Shuttles could also be used earlier in the game with similar intentions. Send in and drop two shuttles full of Zealots, then send in your dragoons. Usually this early in the game, anti-air is pretty lackluster, so I don't think shuttle drops would be too hard. | ||
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CanucksJC
Canada1241 Posts
[edit] I see that he already mentioned it haha...  | ||
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scrubtastic
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Kinda funny how they remark about lack of Protoss innovation making it hard for them to succeed - I think Ver remarked at some point about how innovation is super-important in SC (and that Flash is still innovating) so it's nice to see some top players actually come out and say the same thing. Lol Bisu praising probes (and for good reason) and feeling strongly about maps (surprise!) The BM towards free is pretty funny. Thanks for the translation! | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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ArvickHero
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6788 Posts
 . I also liked the mass QQing. But who cares because it's stork and bisu, they make everything better  . | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On November 17 2010 15:25 ArvickHero wrote: Jeeeez why don't these two just fuckin teach each other the matchups instead of complaining it about it so goddamn much -_- You'd think Bisu and Best would have done that a long time ago considering they live together and they're probably just as good of friends as Bisu/Stork. | ||
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Ryo
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kassi
United States290 Posts
edit: That video is amazing. I love when they hug and Bisu gets all giggly saying it feels like he's looking at a girl. hahahaha. Bisu's laugh is too cute. | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On November 17 2010 15:25 ArvickHero wrote: Jeeeez why don't these two just fuckin teach each other the matchups instead of complaining it about it so goddamn much -_- I'm pretty sure Bisu and Best are trying to do that to each other. It's just that hearing what you're supposed to do, and actually managing to do it, are different things- | ||
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mustaju
Estonia4505 Posts
EDIT: By featuring, I meant spotlighting, because I'm stupid. | ||
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saritenite
Singapore1680 Posts
On November 17 2010 11:21 amethyst wrote: DES= If the two of you became one player, that would be formidable. Stork: We wouldn’t lose to anyone. Even if we had to play Flash. (laughs) Bisu: I also feel the same we. Stork-hyung and I together would make the strongest Protoss. Borkchon! @Bisu's probe - Lulz. Goddamn probes killin my scvs. | ||
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