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Milkis
5003 Posts
On November 18 2010 10:28 infinitestory wrote: yeah that last one makes me depressed edit: it says "foreigners trying to interpret chinese makes me laugh"... something like that Ignore those idiots. It's not like they're any good at translating Korean to Chinese. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On November 18 2010 14:59 rigelq wrote: That's cause his PvZ is actually really really good. Same with Bisu's PvT, it just they aren't as amazing as their regular match ups Well Bisu also has a good score against flash, though not in flash "god-line" mode .. meh | ||
infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On November 18 2010 17:41 infinitestory wrote: Whoa, I just looked it up, and Bisu 10-10 Stork lifetime against each other. I thought Stork had beaten Bisu way more for some reason O_o Well they did just have that match in IEF that Bisu won, unless that doesn't count. Honestly, they had plenty of games, I think their rivalry can really go either way. | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
On November 18 2010 17:41 infinitestory wrote: Whoa, I just looked it up, and Bisu 10-10 Stork lifetime against each other. I thought Stork had beaten Bisu way more for some reason O_o Funny thing is, despite 10-10 Stork probably has around 3 silvers thanks to Bisu. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
Bisu: "You never see vultures mines not exploding" Me: WHAT ABOUT MINE DAEBAK (mines exploding on your own army) __ Stork: "In a brief moment if you don’t pay attention, all the units will become ice cream. Same goes for Zerg—if you are slower by just a second, everything is gone." ________ So umm.... what about Terran? If Terran doesn't siege at the right time they're fucked by Dragoons/Zealots charging at them. If you don't properly space out your mines you'll either get ran over by dragoons or mine dragged to death. I'm not trying to take away from Bisu/Stork's moments to talk about the Protoss race, but I dunno I just think that's a little drastic to mention vultures being gamebreaking. | ||
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Piste
6174 Posts
On November 17 2010 19:18 Funnytoss wrote: Yeah, neither of these two seem to have the killer instinct that you see from Jaedong or Flash. In a sense, it's kind of nice that it's not 20-30 pages, because that would be way too much to read through... what ever, bisu has a wining record vs JD ^^ | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Even the Korean fans lament Bisu's carriers... | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On November 18 2010 21:41 Piste wrote: what ever, bisu has a wining record vs JD ^^ Barely, and you should not include the game @ destination played during the all-stars event, players never play seriously (Flash nuked himself against sAviOr in '09, Bisu went fast scout against Flash in '10, etc.), so it's a 7-7 record ! | ||
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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lastmotion
368 Posts
On November 18 2010 21:20 Silentness wrote: I love Stork and Bisu, but damn man in my opinion it feels like they're hating a bit on the Terran race. Bisu: "You never see vultures mines not exploding" Me: WHAT ABOUT MINE DAEBAK (mines exploding on your own army) Mine Daebak is necessary because mines are so incredibly strong...god if it didn't do splash damage to ur own unit, AND it comes free with vultures...thats incredibly broken. (Not that they aren't broken right now) On November 18 2010 21:20 Silentness wrote: Stork: "In a brief moment if you don’t pay attention, all the units will become ice cream. Same goes for Zerg—if you are slower by just a second, everything is gone." ________ So umm.... what about Terran? If Terran doesn't siege at the right time they're fucked by Dragoons/Zealots charging at them. If you don't properly space out your mines you'll either get ran over by dragoons or mine dragged to death. I'm not trying to take away from Bisu/Stork's moments to talk about the Protoss race, but I dunno I just think that's a little drastic to mention vultures being gamebreaking. I get what u are saying about T not sieging at the right time but they are talking about the degree of one-sidedness. For example, if T didn't siege in time, P army would kill them easily but heavy T mech damage + upgrades + mines will whittle down P's army a little. If P or Z army ran into a heavily fortified tank line with mines, you should forget about doing ANY damage to T's army, your army just becomes goo. | ||
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lastmotion
368 Posts
On November 17 2010 11:21 amethyst wrote: DES=Why do you think there hasn’t been the excellent player for Protoss? Bisu: I agree. Protoss’ performance really is decided by the maps. I feel really strongly about that. I’m not saying this as if I want the mapmakers to make P-favored maps; I’m just stating a fact about the basics of the race. One less mineral patch* can change the way match is played: such is the way Protoss works. We are supposed to have an advantage against Terran, but lately they’ve increased their skill, so even this advantage is gone. *[T/N: Chinese version says pylon, but Korean version says mineral patch. Thanks Ryo!] Yes Bisu knows the truth. I guess even progamers themselves realize that the old rule of T > Z > P > T holds true. But Bisu tells us further that P does not > T. So it respectfully changes the rule to T > Z > P And clearly shows why P has been performing the worst in BW pro scene for the last 10 years, why Z was always the 2nd, and T was always the best. Either fix PvT so P gets more advantage or Fix ZvT & ZvP so a Protoss bonjwa can be born | ||
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reincremate
China2213 Posts
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Milkis
5003 Posts
On November 19 2010 02:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Well, it's settled. The Taekbang Archon must be formed. JulyZerg said something to this effect recently actually "Stork's PvT is the best, and Bisu's PvZ is the best. Combine the two and you get JulyZerg" + Show Spoiler + yeah he really said that, but it was a joke ;p (stork ep of shinae) | ||
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deo1
United States199 Posts
pooooor protoss.... | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
Stork : Hey Bisu, let's BM Free together in the interview, I don't like him ranked better than us at all. Bisu : I'd rather brushing my hair than doing that shit. Stork : If you help me BM Free I will help you QQ about map and race imbalance in the interview. Bisu : Euh.. OK lol. | ||
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catabowl
United States815 Posts
Then when I realized it was real, I started to question what they were saying. I assume this was a joke interview (more for the fans and to have fun, not serious style) That's how I interpreted the "laughs" It's good to see some progamers having fun! So, I actually think BeSt has passed Stork in PvT though... maybe BeSt and Bisu should merge to become BeSu or BiSt | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On November 19 2010 09:54 catabowl wrote: Honestly, I thought this whole interview was faked. So much BM towards Free, a little too much complaining, and then some horrible sucking up to each others ego. Then when I realized it was real, I started to question what they were saying. I assume this was a joke interview (more for the fans and to have fun, not serious style) That's how I interpreted the "laughs" It's good to see some progamers having fun! So, I actually think BeSt has passed Stork in PvT though... maybe BeSt and Bisu should merge to become BeSu or BiSt Not even Stork > Best in PvT ANY day! I | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
I wouldn't say "any day"...there's been plenty of periods where Stork's level of play dropped enough to make many protosses seem superior. Plus Best's PvT win% overall is better than Stork's. | ||
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