Let the fun begin. Activision Blizzard suing MBC - Page 8

On October 23 2010 11:57 PalaceAthene wrote:


Blizzard is seeing it from the commercial side of it. Teams have sponsors that pay for them to play in these tournaments, so their is money being made. It is not the complete 'No money involved' situation you're trying to argue.

That's what this is all about:Both sides fighting for money. Kespa feels like they own Starcraft because they made it into what it is, even though without Blizzard they wouldn't exist.

So now we've got two sides:The passionate side, the ones who argue for Kespa just because they made Starcraft grow. And the legal side, which Blizzard deserves its due desserts.

On October 23 2010 11:57 PalaceAthene wrote:


Blizzard is seeing it from the commercial side of it. Teams have sponsors that pay for them to play in these tournaments, so their is money being made. It is not the complete 'No money involved' situation you're trying to argue.

That's what this is all about:Both sides fighting for money. Kespa feels like they own Starcraft because they made it into what it is, even though without Blizzard they wouldn't exist.

So now we've got two sides:The passionate side, the ones who argue for Kespa just because they made Starcraft grow. And the legal side, which Blizzard deserves its due desserts.

On October 23 2010 12:05 ShadeR wrote:

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Sooo... your basically against a system where players have a salary and thus some sort of financial security and would rather progaming return to the dark ages where if you happened to mess up in a tourney and didn't get enough prize-money, you have to live off cup ramen for the next month and half and sleep in a hostel.

On October 23 2010 12:04 deafhobbit wrote:
You're putting words in my mouth - i never said no one made money from BW, only that kespa didn't. Tournaments are run by MBC and OGN, Kespa is only an administrative agent.

Also, calling Blizzard the "legal side" is bullshit, because it assumes the law is clear cut. Furthermore, it ignores the fact that MBC and OGN purchased the rights to broadcast BW from Blizzards former Korean partner, Hanbitsoft.

On October 23 2010 12:11 Slow Motion wrote:
BTW unless you're a Korean IP lawyer, stop talking about who is legally right. You have no idea. You've never studied Korean IP law. And even if Blizzard does end up winning, does that mean the decision was legally right? Judges make mistakes all the time and get reversed all the time. Furthermore, many decisions are extremely close and is about which party makes the best argument, not about who's right or wrong.

Sorry for the mini-rant but it just pisses me off when people who've never studied the law talk about it like they understand.

On October 23 2010 12:11 PalaceAthene wrote:


Key word former.

The fact that Blizzard let Kespa build an industry based around Starcraft, for 8 years without saying anything is pretty generous.

You're all forgetting that Starcraft isn't a sport, it's a product used to play a sport. Blizzard has had the right to not have them pay for royalties to use their product, and they have the right to change their mind and ask Kespa to start paying Royalties.

Kespa doesn't have a leg to stand on. It's Blizzards game, Blizzards IP, and they have a right to do anything they want with it.

On October 23 2010 12:04 deafhobbit wrote:


You're putting words in my mouth - i never said no one made money from BW, only that kespa didn't. Tournaments are run by MBC and OGN, Kespa is only an administrative agent.

Also, calling Blizzard the "legal side" is bullshit, because it assumes the law is clear cut. Furthermore, it ignores the fact that MBC and OGN purchased the rights to broadcast BW from Blizzards former Korean partner, Hanbitsoft.

On October 23 2010 12:13 PalaceAthene wrote:


I reiterate, it's Blizzards IP, they can do whatever they want with it. Unless Korea want's to start an international dispute with an American company, which they aren't in a position to do, they have to listen to the creators of the game.

Again, many of you are arguing passion over legality.

And when I say Kespa, I mean the companies blizzard is suing, MBC and OGN

On October 23 2010 12:07 Milkis wrote:
rofl the interview in that article

it makes blizzard look absolutely retarded. i can't imagine this ending up well rofl

On October 23 2010 12:16 Romantic wrote:

Of course Kespa makes money, guy. The individual companies that make up Kespa do so because of the advertising benefit they receive, which they perceive to give them a monetary gain. The fact they collectivized and formed a non-profit separate from their own companies is just a formality. Are you going to make us say, "the companies that make up Kespa" or will you let us graciously use Kespa to make conversation easier?

On October 23 2010 12:15 deafhobbit wrote:


Yeah former, and contracts made with them were legally binding. Property rights don't give you the right to go back on contracts you've already made, or your agent made for you, even if you've changed your mind on it.

Finally, you're assuming this is a purely legal matter, which it isn't. None of us are qualified to talk about the vagaries of Korean IP law (as many people have pointed out), but what is legal and what isn't can rarely be stated objectively. Politics are deeply involved in legal processes, especially in countries like South Korea where large companies have direct ties to the government, and as it turns out a lot of those companies sponsor Proleague teams.